This needs to stop

[Natebishop3]

Guys, I have been seeing some trends recently that need to be addressed.

1) People have been posting entire or nearly entire articles. This is illegal. Even if you properly cite it, you can't post the article in its entirety. This leaves yourself and this site open to lawsuits.

2) People have been posting articles without properly citing the source. This is also illegal and can be problematic.

Here is an example of how you can legally post an article.

The Portland Trail Blazers have settled on three finalists in their general manager search and hope to make a decision "soon," president Larry Miller told the Oregonian on Tuesday.

The three candidates, according to the report, are believed to be former New Orleans Hornets general manager Jeff Bower, Indiana Pacers general manager David Morway and Los Angeles Clippers general manager Neil Olshey.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...narrow-general-manager-search-three-finalists

Just a paragraph or two and a link. If you want to go further and say "ESPN is reporting" or "according to ESPN" that's even better, but we have to properly cite the articles or we could be in deep shit.

Thanks and we appreciate you guys posting news on the forum. Just have to do it the right way

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

what happened to you, you used to be so cool.

:MARIS61:

 

[BlazerCaravan]

what a goofy fucking forum.

 

[PapaG]

Righthaven lost their lawsuit. Welcome to 2012.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

WHAT IS THE SQUARE ROOT OF THIS POST?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

What if....

I post the entire article but 'quote' every (separate) paragraph?

:MARIS61:

 

[PapaG]

We also need to start using proper grammar and punctuation. If we're going to be a Big Boy board, let's start acting like it!

^^see the above sentences for examples.^^

 

[PapaG]

Who are these people, and why are they in my house???!!!???

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

just for that, we need to delete the entire OT forum. :MARIS61:

 

[PapaG]

just for that, we need to delete the entire OT forum. :MARIS61:

Where is Hap/Dan when he's needed the most?

 

[Natebishop3]

Laugh all you guys want, but if you post too much of an article it is copyright infringement. And then we have people posting stuff from ESPN Insider and other membership sites. All I'm asking is that you only post a couple paragraphs and a link. I don't think it's that much to ask.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Fair Use. :MARIS61:

 

[Natebishop3]

Fair Use. :MARIS61:

"Fair use is generally a short excerpt and almost always attributed. (One should not use much more of the work than is needed to make the commentary.) It should not harm the commercial value of the work -- in the sense of people no longer needing to buy it (which is another reason why reproduction of the entire work is a problem.) Famously, copying just 300 words from Gerald Ford's 200,000 word memoir for a magazine article was ruled as not fair use, in spite of it being very newsworthy, because it was the most important 300 words -- why he pardoned Nixon. "

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

 

[jlprk]

I heard it's legal to reproduce an entire article in secret code, as long as it's not straightforward what it says. In other words, there must be more than one possible result of the deciphering process.

We need to develop a board code that can be deciphered two ways, one for those over 5000 posts, with a different result of the deciphering for those under 5000. The code for those under could be to reverse every letter in the quote. They'd get busy and we wouldn't hear from them again. The code for those over would result in the article.

I used to do this in the Cub Scouts so I could talk to my best friend while Mrs. Snechloth was talking. She was suspicious and changed desks so that the worst girl in the class Suzy sat between us, tattling everytime we did our hand codes to each other.

The courts can't prove that you reproduced an article if it comes out in gibberish for half the readers. If that were illegal, then it would be illegal for 500 monkeys to type for 20 years and randomly type the Encyclopedia Brittanica. If random results coincidentally coinciding with an article are illegal, then the courts would have to throw every barrel of monkeys into a cell.

 

[PapaG]

Laugh all you guys want, but if you post too much of an article it is copyright infringement. And then we have people posting stuff from ESPN Insider and other membership sites. All I'm asking is that you only post a couple paragraphs and a link. I don't think it's that much to ask.

Righthaven lost their lawsuit, and is actually being countersued by websites they went after for fair use.

You must be feeling powerful today!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Guys, I have been seeing some trends recently that need to be addressed.

1) People have been posting entire or nearly entire articles. This is illegal. Even if you properly cite it, you can't post the article in its entirety. This leaves yourself and this site open to lawsuits.

2) People have been posting articles without properly citing the source. This is also illegal and can be problematic.

Here is an example of how you can legally post an article.

The Portland Trail Blazers have settled on three finalists in their general manager search and hope to make a decision "soon," president Larry Miller told the Oregonian on Tuesday.The three candidates, according to the report, are believed to be former New Orleans Hornets general manager Jeff Bower, Indiana Pacers general manager David Morway and Los Angeles Clippers general manager Neil Olshey.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/79...hree-finalists

Just a paragraph or two and a link. If you want to go further and say "ESPN is reporting" or "according to ESPN" that's even better, but we have to properly cite the articles or we could be in deep shit.

Thanks and we appreciate you guys posting news on the forum. Just have to do it the right way

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

How's this for giving proper credit to a source:

Originally Posted by PapaG:

NateBishop a moderator again?

Fuck this place. He's a joke as a mod.



Does that work? :MARIS61:

 

[Mediocre Man]

How's this for giving proper credit to a source:

Originally Posted by PapaG:

NateBishop a moderator again?

Fuck this place. He's a joke as a mod.



Does that work? :MARIS61:

Was the the entire post? If so, that was a no no

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Was the the entire post? If so, that was a no no

Oh, there was a lot more than just that.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No one is allowed to quote my replies from now on.

{Poasted via palm pilot}

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Thanks for the reminder Nate!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Thanks for the reminder Nate!

Kiss ass!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Thanks for the reminder Nate!

Says the man who pulls pictures of half naked women from websites and posts them

 

[PapaG]

How's this for giving proper credit to a source:

Originally Posted by PapaG:

NateBishop a moderator again?

Fuck this place. He's a joke as a mod.



Does that work? :MARIS61:

You'll need to also add the link to that post under the new rules.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I" thought that was what mods are for"

Disclaimer: the above comment is not from an article but rather my own free expression. The use of the above thought is only to be used by me and any reposting of it is strictly forbidden without the expressed written consent by me. Have a nice day

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

You'll need to also add the link to that post under the new rules.

Well then - thanks for responding and providing the source for my quote (aka your sig).

 

[PapaG]

I thought that was what mods are for

Mods are here publish your name.

Well, at least one of them is here for that purpose. NateBishop seems to be asking us to do his job for him.

 

[jlprk]

A couple of guys here sell insurance. What does liability insurance cost for message board owners?

If the product doesn't exist, you can invent it with a jazzy name like Message Malpractice, sell some to Denny, sell your own resulting liability by hiding it in derivative investments, and make money from both ends, just like the big boys do with risky mortgages. It's no-lose if people pay you to accept their risk, then you sell that risk.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Mods are here publish your name.

Well, at least one of them is here for that purpose. NateBishop seems to be asking us to do his job for him.

Stop that, not all of the mods will post your name. I will but only if someone pays me money but I think there are a few others that won't.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Fair Use is no argument. Definition of Fair Use changed over twenty years ago. I'm fine with NateBishop's request. I own a design firm and copyright (and infringement) is something we should all care about.