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Fez Hammersticks

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However, they are just so mediocre. Philly already looks to be at least on par with the Blazers.

Outside Dame/CJ/Nurk there is a considerable talent gap with a lot of very similar skill sets.

I still think they'll sneak into the playoffs, but if you want to see what a treadmill team looks like, you're most definitely watching one.
 
Fez Von Savage said:
However, they are just so mediocre. Philly already looks to be at least on par with the Blazers.

Outside Dame/CJ/Nurk there is a considerable talent gap with a lot of very similar skill sets.

I still think they'll sneak into the playoffs, but if you want to see what a treadmill team looks like, you're most definitely watching one.
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Agreed. This is a treadmill team.

I'm frustrated with Portlands offense. Very little movement toward the basket.
It's refreshing to watch the 6ers offense with real off-ball movement
 
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I do think Vonleh is developing into the roll we need as a starting PF for us, but the SF and bench scoring need help.
 
If you wanna read a treadmill thread then you're most definitely already doing it.

The disappointing play on the court is almost always followed by a horribly disappointing thread. Cool November prediction dude. Better trade CJ so you feel better.
 
Move Turner and Meyers to the starting five, bring Vonleh, Harkless off the bench, and we're top 4 in the west
 
I think the team has to be looked at in the context of Golden State. Any move made, has to be one that helps us beat Golden State. If it's not going to do that, then it's not a move worth making. Better to take a long term approach, and position ourselves to be a contender in the post Golden State superteam NBA era. That gives us time to develop, and assess players; and make moves that pay off over time. There's no need to make desperate moves that leave us short of Golden State, and hurt us in the long run.
 
Blazer4ever said:
Move Turner and Meyers to the starting five, bring Vonleh, Harkless off the bench, and we're top 4 in the west
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Move Turner and Meyers to a stupid team willing to dump an actually good player who makes a ton of money for their exorbitant salaries, and we're maybe top 4 in the West.
 
This team is mediocre and boring. No upside. The excitement Nurk brought has worn off.
 
Sinobas said:
This team is mediocre and boring. No upside. The excitement Nurk brought has worn off.
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I agree, we'll have some good streaks to go along with the bad but basically a treadmill 500 team that is boring to watch. For a coach who is supposed to be a really good offensive guy Stott's offense scheme just sucks, last in NBA and assists, and Iso-ball to the death - WTF is this all about?
 
Lost to the Raptors (at home) who were missing 2 starters in one of the most uninspired efforts I've ever seen of a Blazer team.
Lost to the Brooklyn Nets AT HOME.
Put up 82 points in a loss to the Kings.
Lost by 20 to the 76ers....game was over in the first 5 minutes.

A couple of good wins. The Pacer game on the road and the Thunder and Nuggest at home. Outside of that, this team is either barely scraping by bad teams (the 2nd PHX game and the Lakers at home) or generally playing uninspired basketball. It's quite disappointing to see. 18 games into the season and so few quality wins offset by more pretty bad losses.

Unfortunately, it seems like that is just what this team is. They should get a win at the Nets, likely lose to the Wizards and the Knicks game looks like another loss. That comes out to a 2-3 road trip with wins against the hapless Nets and a Gasol and garbage Memphis team. Not exactly blowing Kenny Vance's skirt up.
 
That Philly loss was not totally unexpected. Its the way we started the game and finished that pissed me off. In the first quarter we couldn't throw a brick into the ocean.
 
I think its to early. For real. I dont think we have one big game yet this season. We're not playing good offensive, and thats the thing. We need in my opinion a 3pt scorer like morrow, crabbe, korver, players who can make 3s in transition or in cold nights for the team, like last game.

Vonleh is playing very good. I think ed is have some minutes but i dont think he'll stay with us along the season... Olshey will make a trade, you guys will see. We dont suck and we are way far from suck, but we need play better offensive.
 
stampedehero said:
That Philly loss was not totally unexpected. Its the way we started the game and finished that pissed me off. In the first quarter we couldn't throw a brick into the ocean.
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we could have comeback for the game in the 2-3qr.
 
TBpup said:
Lost to the Raptors (at home) who were missing 2 starters in one of the most uninspired efforts I've ever seen of a Blazer team.
Lost to the Brooklyn Nets AT HOME.
Put up 82 points in a loss to the Kings.
Lost by 20 to the 76ers....game was over in the first 5 minutes.

A couple of good wins. The Pacer game on the road and the Thunder and Nuggest at home. Outside of that, this team is either barely scraping by bad teams (the 2nd PHX game and the Lakers at home) or generally playing uninspired basketball. It's quite disappointing to see. 18 games into the season and so few quality wins offset by more pretty bad losses.

Unfortunately, it seems like that is just what this team is. They should get a win at the Nets, likely lose to the Wizards and the Knicks game looks like another loss. That comes out to a 2-3 road trip with wins against the hapless Nets and a Gasol and garbage Memphis team. Not exactly blowing Kenny Vance's skirt up.
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We gonna stole one game from dc or nyk, you will see.
 
TBpup said:
Lost to the Raptors (at home) who were missing 2 starters in one of the most uninspired efforts I've ever seen of a Blazer team.
Lost to the Brooklyn Nets AT HOME.
Put up 82 points in a loss to the Kings.
Lost by 20 to the 76ers....game was over in the first 5 minutes.

A couple of good wins. The Pacer game on the road and the Thunder and Nuggest at home. Outside of that, this team is either barely scraping by bad teams (the 2nd PHX game and the Lakers at home) or generally playing uninspired basketball. It's quite disappointing to see. 18 games into the season and so few quality wins offset by more pretty bad losses.

Unfortunately, it seems like that is just what this team is. They should get a win at the Nets, likely lose to the Wizards and the Knicks game looks like another loss. That comes out to a 2-3 road trip with wins against the hapless Nets and a Gasol and garbage Memphis team. Not exactly blowing Kenny Vance's skirt up.
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Did you think this team was better than this during camp? This shouldn’t really surprise you sir.
 
HCP said:
Did you think this team was better than this during camp? This shouldn’t really surprise you sir.
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pretty normal "hope springs eternal" early on preseason and early on and then reality sets is, seems like a yearly even as a Blazer fan
 
HCP said:
Did you think this team was better than this during camp? This shouldn’t really surprise you sir.
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I thought they'd be a slightly above .500 team. IIRC you thought they'd be about a .500 team. Right now they look like a below .500 team. So yeah, I thought they'd be better than they've shown so far. But it's not even about their record. Some nights they are just bad.

:cheers:
 
EARLY. aminu need's to comeback and a trade is coming at December. chill.
 
HCP said:
Did you think this team was better than this during camp? This shouldn’t really surprise you sir.
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Not tons better....but with the SOS and how many games they had at home, I thought they would be 12-6 or 13-5 at this point. Losses to the hapless Brooklyn Nets at home, the decimated Raptors at home and to the Kings were something nobody really expected. The record would have looked perhaps better than they really were because of how soft the early schedule was. But it still should be a couple of games better.

Spread 2-3 wins per 20 games over the season and that is an 8-12 win improvement. Not contending status but at least playing to their potential.....which they are not doing as of now.
 
BBert said:
I thought they'd be a slightly above .500 team. IIRC you thought they'd be about a .500 team. Right now they look like a below .500 team. So yeah, I thought they'd be better than they've shown so far. But it's not even about their record. Some nights they are just bad.

:cheers:
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I’ll admit that I thought we would look better than we have, but lose out to more talented teams. Bit frustrated for sure. I said 40 wins, we’ll see.
 
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Seems some people are missing the emergence of Napier and Vonleh.

We aren't winning it all this year so why make a desperation move this year.

The team IS improving. Most of the young players ARE improving.

If they aren't going to be part of the long term picture, they are improving their game for better trade value down the road.

Anyone expecting 60 wins and second seed this year.....you overreached.

They age of this team alone says it hasn't yet crossed the veteran status that knows what it takes to go to the next level.

I think the best thing for this team would be a 5-7 seed and see if we cant oust the better team this year. Once that happens, confidence boosts and who cares how else the playoffs play out.

Then take a player or two that has improved and we have depth at (Napier, Swannigan, Leonard) and figure out how to use these guys to get an impact/all star player to put next to Dame, CJ Nurk and VOnleh.

The bench can be rotation players from year to year.

The only reason I see to make any moves this trade deadline is for financial reasons.

Let these guys play the year out, develop and gel.

I believe in Vonleh as our future PF next to Nurk.

Could we roust Denver one more time?

Id give those three players up for Wilson Chandler. Toss him or one of the below mentioned players in as our small forward and our starting lineup should be able to compete with almost any team.

Then fill in the bench with rotational players. that come and go from year to year.


Could we pry Otis Porter away from Washington with a trade in the off season for the three Blazers I mentioned? He is spendy.

What would it take to get Middleton from Milwaukee?


Anyhow, most treadmill teams are simply one to two players away from taking that next step, but those players have to fit perfectly and there aren't many out there that fit our need that could takes us to the next level.

If we could land one of the players mentioned above for only the players I mentioned to offer, I think that is a progress move that puts us on the right path to compete for a title for 1-4 years after this year.
 
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TBpup said:
Not tons better....but with the SOS and how many games they had at home, I thought they would be 12-6 or 13-5 at this point. Losses to the hapless Brooklyn Nets at home, the decimated Raptors at home and to the Kings were something nobody really expected. The record would have looked perhaps better than they really were because of how soft the early schedule was. But it still should be a couple of games better.

Spread 2-3 wins per 20 games over the season and that is an 8-12 win improvement. Not contending status but at least playing to their potential.....which they are not doing as of now.
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The loss to the nets wasn't something expected no.

But the loss to the Geko's and the Kings are very expected.
Considering Geko's vs Portland is always a tough game for both sides regardless who suits up... It wasn't difficult to see that loss coming. Portland came out flat because the geko's were missing players.
Playing any team road/home is always tough. Especially when you're one of the 18 or so middle of the pack teams that are currently in the NBA.
I don't really see how people can call these two shocking losses if you're looking objectively.
 
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