Thomas Robinson

[THE HCP]

So after lasts nights game I was blown away and saw his true potential for one of only a few times this season. What a beast on both ends.

He's averaging 5 pts and 4 rebounds a game in 11 minutes roughly.

When we acquired him I put him in the Brian Grant category. Not going to run plays thru him, but he should be able to go out there and do the dirty work,scrap,hustle......pretty much exactly what we saw against the Wolves.

He may put up shit numbers in his next 3 games or it may be 2 weeks til we see another game from him like this, but I really hope we don't give up on this kid, he's only 21. Considering we gave up NOTHING to acquire him, this move will help us for years to come.

On a side note, this usually doesn't matter for some, but T-Rob is REAL cool. Down to earth, polite......quality guy.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

He needs to accept his NBA role. And that is a kenneth faried type player. I would love him to take up that attitude instead of dribbling, shooting jumpers, etc.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

So after lasts nights game I was blown away and saw his true potential for one of only a few times this season. What a beast on both ends.

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I really hope we don't give up on this kid, he's only 21. Considering we gave up NOTHING to acquire him, this move will help us for years to come.

On a side note, this usually doesn't matter for some, but T-Rob is REAL cool. Down to earth, polite......quality guy.

I like that he is a nice guy. Even better, I really like that the potential to be a real, quality, impact player is there. If he can start channeling such games more regularly, we have another very legitimate front-line player and reduces the need for us to go out and acquire another front-line player as many wished at the trade deadline.

I'm very happy we got him and thrilled to see how he did last night. It was good to see some of our second-unit guys really step it up and perform. I think the experience will help them and help the team overall.

Gramps...

 

[THE HCP]

He needs to accept his NBA role. And that is a kenneth faried type player. I would love him to take up that attitude instead of dribbling, shooting jumpers, etc.

Agreed.

Maybe with his limited minutes and not a normal role out there he has felt he needs to come in and get some shots up in order to help the team. He's not that type of player.

 

[Schilly]

I think instead of worrying about role and what not he just needs to keep playing hard. I haven't seen him handle the ball out of place. He does occasionally shoot a Jumper too early, but in all reality shouldn't we want a guy to be as flexible as possible.

 

[THE HCP]

TROB didn't kill that guy^

 

[Schilly]

Since a lot of posters on here have only been fans since November there aren't enough people that seem to remember a young Clifford Robinson. Cliff came into the league at the age of 23 compared to Thomas who was 21. He was athletic and took some of the most god awful ill advised shots I have ever seen. He also seemed lost a lot of the time. As a rookie he came off the bench for 19mpg and shot .397 from the field, .550 from the line and averaged 9.1 pts and 3.8 reb (17.2pt and 7.1rb per 36). By comparison Robinson as a 22 year old is playing 11.6mpg shooting .459, .613 from the line and averaging 4.5ppg, and 4.1rpg (14pt and 12.6rp per 36). Also Both players showed a pretty marked improvement from 1st season to 2nd season.

Now I get that Clifford and Thomas aren't similar players in terms of play style, but Clifford is an excellent example of why you don't give up on a 1st or 2nd year big that shows promise.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Beastmas beastinson

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Since a lot of posters on here have only been fans since November

Some posters may have joined the forum in November but I'm positive they've been Blazer fans long before then.

 

[riverman]

Some posters may have joined the forum in November but I'm positive they've been Blazer fans long before then.

exactly

 

[Blazinaway]

Since a lot of posters on here have only been fans since November there aren't enough people that seem to remember a young Clifford Robinson. Cliff came into the league at the age of 23 compared to Thomas who was 21. He was athletic and took some of the most god awful ill advised shots I have ever seen. He also seemed lost a lot of the time. As a rookie he came off the bench for 19mpg and shot .397 from the field, .550 from the line and averaged 9.1 pts and 3.8 reb (17.2pt and 7.1rb per 36). By comparison Robinson as a 22 year old is playing 11.6mpg shooting .459, .613 from the line and averaging 4.5ppg, and 4.1rpg (14pt and 12.6rp per 36). Also Both players showed a pretty marked improvement from 1st season to 2nd season.

Now I get that Clifford and Thomas aren't similar players in terms of play style, but Clifford is an excellent example of why you don't give up on a 1st or 2nd year big that shows promise.

you don't give up especially when he shows us a "glimpse" like the did last night, I don't expect a game like last night every game for him (we can wish though) but I do expect more from him now and he should be starting to know what he needs to do to get and keep minutes and make it in this league, I really wish Meyers would start to do the same and show us something.

 

[THE HCP]

Some posters may have joined the forum in November but I'm positive they've been Blazer fans long before then.

Not some of the ones who showed up on here.

 

[THE HCP]

but I do expect more from him now

You shouldn't unless he's getting 30 minutes a night.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I've been vocal in not seeing the worth of Thomas Robinson, but that game was fucking awesome. He needs to play Kevin Love every game.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

exactly

I get his point, you can't really be considered a real Blazer fan until you join this forum and have more than 1,199 posts. The good news is you're almost there!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Not some of the ones who showed up on here.

Yes, some of them work for Blazer broadcasting but are secretly Laker fans.

 

[Blazinaway]

You shouldn't unless he's getting 30 minutes a night.

disagree, what he did last night should give him confidence and reinforce how he needs to play when he is in the game, whether it's 10 minutes or 30 minutes. It's a gradual process for young players and I think he has a very good chance to have taken one of hopefully many steps forward.

Lets take the D he played on Love. he did it and did it well and did not get called for a bunch of fouls against a guy who gets a shitload of calls, that should really bolster his confidence that he CAN DEFEND

 

[THE HCP]

disagree, what he did last night should give him confidence and reinforce how he needs to play when he is in the game, whether it's 10 minutes or 30 minutes. It's a gradual process for young players and I think he has a very good chance to have taken one of hopefully many steps forward.

Lets take the D he played on Love. he did it and did it well and did not get called for a bunch of fouls against a guy who gets a shitload of calls, that should really bolster his confidence that he CAN DEFEND

Negative GhostRider.......... He is the type of player you need to leave out on the floor, mistakes and all, in order for him to help us.

 

[Blazinaway]

Negative GhostRider.......... He is the type of player you need to leave out on the floor, mistakes and all, in order for him to help us.

yes and no, getting more minutes should lead to better play, more confidence and gradually less mistakes especially as he is in the steep "learning curve" part of his career. But as he gets a lot more minutes as he will over the next few weeks at least, I expect his "average play" to be at a higher level then where it has been even if he only gets 10-15 minutes. Again I don't expect what he did last night every night, but IMO we should remain patient but expect to see a more consistent level of play from him - gradually.

 

[ponderguy]

i was so happy with Robinsons performance last night. Looked like a nice return to his Kansas days

 

[shamelessblazer]

I really think we should use him in pick n rolls. Damian is actually pretty good at running them, but doesn't super often with Aldridge (other than pick n pop).

Robinson needs to develop softer hands, but he's much more athletic than JJ who was a beast in pick n rolls. I see him as an Amare/Griffin light.

It would be a great base offense for the 10-15 mpg when Aldridge is on the bench.

Additionally, I think we really need a b/u PG or distributing SF who can feed Aldridge in the post for when Damian is on the bench. Just a spread floor lineup with good shooters and entry passes. (another poster suggested Vasquez, which sounds great to me)

 

[jlprk]

'Bout time you got on my bandwagon, HCP. I've been saying this guy makes mistakes, but his fierceness is exactly what I wish Aldridge had.

 

[blue9]

So, Robinson should start the rest of the games that LMA is out, right? No more of this Dorell Wright crap.

 

[Blazinaway]

So, Robinson should start the rest of the games that LMA is out, right? No more of this Dorell Wright crap.

I would think he's earned the start till he plays awful or LMA returns

 

[jlprk]

He'll get into early foul trouble, but what the hell, give him some experience starting.

 

[Pinwheel1]

It will be interesting to see him go head-to-head against JJ and Faried next game. Two guys who many posters have wanted as our PF. (Starter and Back up)

 

[Stevenson]

I see not a little Dennis Rodman in him.

 

[maxiep]

Every great team needs a bench with terrific role players. We have incredible starters, but our bench has been lacking. There's talent on it for sure, but not much experience. I don't know if Robinson can be a guy who can accept coming off the bench behind LA, but if he is, he's a keeper.

When I look at our bigs, I don't think of them as PFs and Cs, but rather the space they occupy. LA, Meyers and Claver are high post guys; Lopez, Robinson and Freeland occupy the low post. Put them together in any high/low combination and you can be effective depending on the matchup. I think back to the days of Williams and Duckworth. Sure, Duck was the C and Buck was the PF, but on offense, Duck played high and Buck did the dirty work down low. When Sabas played, he'd play the high post with Grant and the low post with Sheed. I'd like to see how an LA/Robinson combination would work against a smaller team.

What's great about him is that no matter how he is playing, he brings energy that picks up the intensity of the entire team. It's crucial in managing a game that you can take advantage of tired opponents or be able to inject some life in your own team when it doesn't bring the requisite energy.

I have every confidence with his work ethic, he will learn to harness his energy and talent to be an extremely productive and valuable player in this league. The blue-collar, lunchbucket player will always have value in the NBA.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

So after lasts nights game I was blown away and saw his true potential for one of only a few times this season. What a beast on both ends.

He's averaging 5 pts and 4 rebounds a game in 11 minutes roughly.

When we acquired him I put him in the Brian Grant category. Not going to run plays thru him, but he should be able to go out there and do the dirty work,scrap,hustle......pretty much exactly what we saw against the Wolves.

He may put up shit numbers in his next 3 games or it may be 2 weeks til we see another game from him like this, but I really hope we don't give up on this kid, he's only 21. Considering we gave up NOTHING to acquire him, this move will help us for years to come.

On a side note, this usually doesn't matter for some, but T-Rob is REAL cool. Down to earth, polite......quality guy.

He's actually 22, and turning 23 in three weeks, but I definitely agree with the rest of your post.

I hope he can develop an offensive game that works in the NBA, so he doesn't have to rely on his athleticism so much and can have a longer career.

 

[riverman]

I think the word used to be that TRob was slow to pick up offensive sets but hopefully he's finally had enough reps to not overthink the game plan. He's a beast and he was a steal for this team