Thon Maker?

[Rastapopoulos]

So: the ideal player for us would be Young Kevin Garnett, or possibly Young Chris Bosh - incredibly versatile defender who can rebound and hit jump shots. But is there a player anything close to that in the pipeline? I don't think so. This draft seems to be strongest in PGs and SFs. Does Thon Maker seem like he might become that player? He seems like he might have the potential. He's not a startling athlete, but he is mobile and incredibly long. The only downside is if that whole thing about his age turns out to be true.

Thoughts?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

He's in the NBA.

 

[Trackjack]

He is player that I was high on last year draft. Heard is doing well for the Bucks. High energy guy.

 

[JDC]

Hartenstein is a long ways off (raw, high TO%), but he could be that kind of player in a couple years.

He doesn't have the length of the guys mentioned, but he has quick feet, is a fluid athlete and might be able to shoot (his release is a little funky right now). Sees the floor too.

 

[riverman]

I love Thon Makers game...he'd be a perfect guy in Portland..

 

[handiman]

We should start a phone campaign to urge the Blazers and Bucks to make a deal. We could call it the Tele-Thon. Maker it happen!

 

[Mediocre Man]

So the ideal player for us at PF is a future HOFer?

Careful, that limb must be about to break.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So: the ideal player for us would be Young Kevin Garnett, or possibly Young Chris Bosh - incredibly versatile defender who can rebound and hit jump shots. But is there a player anything close to that in the pipeline? I don't think so. This draft seems to be strongest in PGs and SFs. Does Thon Maker seem like he might become that player? He seems like he might have the potential. He's not a startling athlete, but he is mobile and incredibly long. The only downside is if that whole thing about his age turns out to be true.

Thoughts?

THAT'S GENIUS!

Seriously, I love it!

We should draft players who are already drafted. We could use our late 1st round picks to take Lebron and Anthony Davis. Heck, I'd use a 2nd round pick to take Batum just to fuck with him.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

THAT'S GENIUS!

Seriously, I love it!

We should draft players who are already drafted.

Well, it worked with Sabonis.

But seriously, where did I say by draft? Obviously we would trade for him and I was working up to say we'd trade CJ if people liked him enough, knowing that if I said that up front everybody would just get all mad.

 

[riverman]

THAT'S GENIUS!

Seriously, I love it!

We should draft players who are already drafted. We could use our late 1st round picks to take Lebron and Anthony Davis. Heck, I'd use a 2nd round pick to take Batum just to fuck with him.

I can't help but think what a Batum Nurkic pairing would be like...the Nic and Nurk

 

[SlyPokerDog]

But seriously, where did I say by draft? Obviously we would trade for him and I was working up to say we'd trade CJ if people liked him enough, knowing that if I said that up front everybody would just get all mad.

 

[DUB]

Does Thon Maker seem like he might become that player? He seems like he might have the potential. He's not a startling athlete, but he is mobile and incredibly long.

It depends on how you define athleticism. I would describe a 7 footer who can crossover people as athletic.



That said, he doesn't seem to have great leaping ability, and we don't know yet about his endurance.

The only downside is if that whole thing about his age turns out to be true.

It's not. He came to Australia at age 5. For the conspiracy theorists to be correct, he would have had to have changed his age before he came to Australia; before he had even heard of the game of basketball, let alone picked one up (he was discovered in Australia, playing soccer, at 14 years of age). Which would be the greatest long game con in the history of sports.

Or you have to believe that the Australian Department of Immigration and Border Protection is so incompetent that they can't keep track of the age of a refugee that they let into the country at one age, then left the country at another age. There is no way that this would happen. Australian politics is so paranoid about immigration, that we make US officials look like amateurs.

Australia's detention centres a crime against humanity

Australia's network of offshore immigration detention centres could constitute a crime against humanity, according to a submission before the International Criminal Court (ICC).

 

[PDXFonz]

Well, it worked with Sabonis.

But seriously, where did I say by draft? Obviously we would trade for him and I was working up to say we'd trade CJ if people liked him enough, knowing that if I said that up front everybody would just get all mad.

Would you trade CJ for Thon Maker?

 

[riverman]

Would you trade CJ for Thon Maker?

Brogdan, Maker for Crabbe, Leonard or Napier in a heartbeat...

 

[Nikolokolus]

I can't remember which podcast it was (one of the national NBA guys about 2 months ago) Milwaukee is super high on Thon. Zero percent chance they trade him.

 

[PDXFonz]

Brogdan, Maker and Rubio for Crabbe, Leonard and Napier in a heartbeat...for CJ they'd have to give up KAT

Maker plays for the Bucks

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

*Thon Maker

 

[PDXFonz]

The Bucks would be reluctant to part with Maker. They have been starting him, so they want to see how he develops and obviously still believe in their draft pick. You would have to offer something over the top just to bridge the gap of current talent vs expectations. If not CJ then they would want good contracts like Harkless/Davis, and a first round pick.

 

[riverman]

Would you trade CJ for Thon Maker?

good catch...I mixed that whole thing up...hopefully fixed it

 

[riverman]

The Bucks would be reluctant to part with Maker. They have been starting him, so they want to see how he develops and obviously still believe in their draft pick. You would have to offer something over the top just to bridge the gap of current talent vs expectations. If not CJ then they would want good contracts like Harkless/Davis, and a first round pick.

I think CJ can be traded for an allstar if he's moved..and I don't think he'll be moved. .a Jimmy Butler caliber player..CJ's value is pretty high right now.

 

[riverman]

I can't remember which podcast it was (one of the national NBA guys about 2 months ago) Milwaukee is super high on Thon. Zero percent chance they trade him.

I can see why...I watched 3 or 4 of his games and he's a skilled big man..unselfish..plays both ways. Got some Cliff Robinson in his game.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Would you trade CJ for Thon Maker?

Not straight up and not in my current state of ignorance.
BUT: if I truly believed that Thon Maker was actually the age he says, and free from any signs that he's got weak knees, and able to become a top-flight defender, then yes, I would be prepared to give up CJ to the Bucks as part of a package including Maker (and no, not including Antetokounmpo, because the Bucks would never do that). I can give reasons if you're interested.

(I don't expect Maker ever to approach CJ's offensive capabilities, even in a best-case scenario, in case you're wondering.)

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I can see why...I watched 3 or 4 of his games and he's a skilled big man..unselfish..plays both ways. Got some Cliff Robinson in his game.

Your second sentence is at war with your first.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I can't remember which podcast it was (one of the national NBA guys about 2 months ago) Milwaukee is super high on Thon. Zero percent chance they trade him.

That's why I think you'd have to offer CJ. And I imagine their calculations might've changed with Parker's second major injury.

I just think that CJ would fit PERFECTLY on that team. You could start him at PG because GA is their real PG (like the Bulls starting Ron Harper or Steve Kerr because they had Pippen).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

How much will CJ be earning next season when his contract kicks in?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It depends on how you define athleticism. I would describe a 7 footer who can crossover people as athletic.

That dribble would probably be higher than my head. But the shooting is good.

(In general I'm not a fan of lauding people because your guy falls over. Usually you can blame it more on the floor or the guy's shoes. It's just a form of ritual humiliation and it just leads to defenders not trying hard because they'll be laughed at (like shotblockers getting out of the way so they're not "in the poster"))

 

[Wizard Mentor]

The Bucks REACHED for Thon Maker. Unless something has changed, they're not giving up cheap, and probably not at all.

 

[Blazer4ever]

If we're looking for a PF I think we need to be more creative. Find some diamond in the rough, through the draft or elsewhere. There are always gems in the summer league, NBDL, I would have more specific suggestions but has gotten kind of rusty in terms of watching basketball. I know many here are still angry at TRob for trading him (I know it makes no sense) but I think TRob would be great for us right now and he's gettable, at least in the summer. There are other options, need to think outside the box

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If we're looking for a PF I think we need to be more creative. Find some diamond in the rough, through the draft or elsewhere. There are always gems in the summer league, NBDL, I would have more specific suggestions but has gotten kind of rusty in terms of watching basketball. I know many here are still angry at TRob for trading him (I know it makes no sense) but I think TRob would be great for us right now and he's gettable, at least in the summer. There are other options, need to think outside the box

Disagree. TRob's problem was that he just can't play in a system. He's good at rebounding and dunking but that's not good enough. We need skilled players who understand the nuances of team defense.

 

[Blazer4ever]

And like magic the 'similiar threads' suggested this thread I started - http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/cleanthony-early.305431/ - Cleanthony Early would be Great for us and I think he's a FA. Do it Olshey!