Thorn admits failure to replace K-mart

[Dark Defender]

<font><font><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>&ldquo;We&rsquo;ve never been able to replace Kenyon,&rdquo; said Thorn. &ldquo;He gave us defensive ability and running-the-court-toughness. We&rsquo;re still searching for that type of player.&rdquo;</div></font></font></p>

He admits this team won't go further without a big man.</p>

http://celtics.bostonherald.com/otherNBA/v...d=1016780</p>

 

[cpawfan]

The writer was spot on with his comment</p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><font><font>Not even O&rsquo;Neal, a better offensive player than Martin but hardly a tough defensive presence, could bring that edge back to the Nets.</div></font></font></p>

 

[JCB]

Speaks the truth.

 

[GrandKenyon6]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>

The writer was spot on with his comment</p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'> <font><font>Not even O&rsquo;Neal, a better offensive player than Martin but hardly a tough defensive presence, could bring that edge back to the Nets.</div></font></font></p>

</div> </p>

That's true. He wouldn't bring that toughness back, but that doesn't mean we still wouldn't be a better team with O'Neal than we are right now.</p>

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

I love how on basketballforum, someone thinks Thorn is hinting about getting a big man. </p>

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[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrandKenyon6)</div><div class='quotemain'>

That's true. He wouldn't bring that toughness back, but that doesn't mean we still wouldn't be a better team with O'Neal than we are right now. </p>

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</p>

The Nets wouldn't be a better team with him and it has nothing to do with any comparisons to Kenyon</p>

 

[Денг Гордон]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>

The writer was spot on with his comment</p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'> <font><font>Not even O&rsquo;Neal, a better offensive player than Martin but hardly a tough defensive presence, could bring that edge back to the Nets.</div></font></font></p>

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</p>

Hardly spot on. Jermaine O'neal was one of the best defensive big men in the league last year. </p>

</p>

His offense is the terrifying part of his game. His defense is fine. </p>

 

[Arrpy]

The Nets did sign Magloire, that will help out. He has a big body, he can defend, block shots,Rebound, and score. I think he will solve some of their problems, but not all...

 

[downunderwonder]

Kenyon was a perfect fit with that team. It was a well balanced squad with its only weakness, not being able to score in the post. Kenyon was great but he really needed a centre who was able to hit shots, pass well and rebound. Sadly we will never have a team like that for years to come, if at all. VC was a Kittles upgrade offensively but doesnt run the break, pass, defend or get his team mates involved as well. I lovewatching VC but if the other option was a healthy KMart and Kittles insteadof Magloire and Carter Id take skittles and kenyon any day.

 

[Arrpy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Downunderwonder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Kenyon was a perfect fit with that team. It was a well balanced squad with its only weakness, not being able to score in the post. Kenyon was great but he really needed a centre who was able to hit shots, pass well and rebound. Sadly we will never have a team like that for years to come, if at all. VC was a Kittles upgrade offensively but doesnt run the break, pass, defend or get his team mates involved as well. I love watching VC but if the other option was a healthy KMart and Kittles instead of Magloire and Carter Id take skittles and kenyon any day.</div></p>

</p>

Who was K-Mart traded for?</p>

I can't remember...</p>

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>

The writer was spot on with his comment</p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'> <font><font>Not even O&rsquo;Neal, a better offensive player than Martin but hardly a tough defensive presence, could bring that edge back to the Nets.</div></font></font></p>

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</p>

Hardly spot on. Jermaine O'neal was one of the best defensive big men in the league last year. </p>

</p>

His offense is the terrifying part of his game. His defense is fine. </p></div>
The only people that think JON is a good defender are the people that just look at the stats and don't watch the games.

 

[Petey]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Downunderwonder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Kenyon was a perfect fit with that team. It was a well balanced squad with its only weakness, not being able to score in the post. Kenyon was great but he really needed a centre who was able to hit shots, pass well and rebound. Sadly we will never have a team like that for years to come, if at all. VC was a Kittles upgrade offensively but doesnt run the break, pass, defend or get his team mates involved as well. I love watching VC but if the other option was a healthy KMart and Kittles instead of Magloire and Carter Id take skittles and kenyon any day.</div></p>

</p>

Who was K-Mart traded for?</p>

I can't remember... </p>

</div></p>

3 1st rounders, and a TE.</p>

-Petey</p>

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Downunderwonder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Kenyon was a perfect fit with that team. It was a well balanced squad with its only weakness, not being able to score in the post. Kenyon was great but he really needed a centre who was able to hit shots, pass well and rebound. Sadly we will never have a team like that for years to come, if at all. VC was a Kittles upgrade offensively but doesnt run the break, pass, defend or get his team mates involved as well. I love watching VC but if the other option was a healthy KMart and Kittles instead of Magloire and Carter Id take skittles and kenyon any day.</div></p>

</p>

Who was K-Mart traded for?</p>

I can't remember... </p></div>
3 first round draft picks

 

[Dark Defender]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Downunderwonder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Kenyon was a perfect fit with that team. It was a well balanced squad with its only weakness, not being able to score in the post. Kenyon was great but he really needed a centre who was able to hit shots, pass well and rebound. Sadly we will never have a team like that for years to come, if at all. VC was a Kittles upgrade offensively but doesnt run the break, pass, defend or get his team mates involved as well. I love watching VC but if the other option was a healthy KMart and Kittles instead of Magloire and Carter Id take skittles and kenyon any day.</div></p>

I agree we won't see a team close to that for a long time mostly because that team was built on perfect timing.</p>

Van Honr and Kittles were healthy, A great player like Kidd was on the market for basically nothing (Marbury).</p>

 

[ghoti]

He's being too hard on himself.</p>

Take your time, Rod! No hurry.</p>

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

Just to make Ghoti happy:</p>

Yeah! Wait for Pau!</p>

 

[downunderwonder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3)</div><div class='quotemain'>

I agree we won't see a team close to that for a long time mostly because that team was built on perfect timing.</p>

Van Honr and Kittles were healthy, A great player like Kidd was on the market for basically nothing (Marbury).</p></div>Geez if Thomas offered us the same trade again, he'd have to include 4 first round draft picks, a lifetime supply of 'Captain Morgan', a $2000 gift voucher from Ikea and all the property deeds in the Coney Island area. And still Rod Thorn would get lynched if he even considered it...

 

[gambitnut]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Downunderwonder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Kenyon was a perfect fit with that team. It was a well balanced squad with its only weakness, not being able to score in the post. Kenyon was great but he really needed a centre who was able to hit shots, pass well and rebound. Sadly we will never have a team like that for years to come, if at all. VC was a Kittles upgrade offensively but doesnt run the break, pass, defend or get his team mates involved as well. I love watching VC but if the other option was a healthy KMart and Kittles instead of Magloire and Carter Id take skittles and kenyon any day.</div></p>

</p>

Who was K-Mart traded for?</p>

I can't remember... </p>

</div>
3 first round draft picks

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</p>

WhodidtheNetstakewiththosethreepicks?</p>

 

[Kid Chocolate]

[quote name='gambitnut'][quote name='cpawfan'][quote name='Arrpy']

[quote name='Downunderwonder']Kenyon was a perfect fit with that team. It was a well balanced squad with its only weakness, not being able to score in the post. Kenyon was great but he really needed a centre who was able to hit shots, pass well and rebound. Sadly we will never have a team like that for years to come, if at all. VC was a Kittles upgrade offensively but doesnt run the break, pass, defend or get his team mates involved as well. I love watching VC but if the other option was a healthy KMart and Kittles instead of Magloire and Carter Id take skittles and kenyon any day.[/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

Who was K-Mart traded for?</p>

I can't remember... </p>

[/QUOTE]3 first round draft picks [/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

Who did the Nets take with those three picks? </p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

</p>

Traded 2 for Vince Carter & took Marcus Williams with the other.</p>

 

[ghoti]

I believe the other two picks became Joey Graham and Renaldo Balkman

 

[Real]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>I believe the other two picks became Joey Graham and Renaldo Balkman</div>
Yep.

 

[pegs]

at least carter and williams are healthy.

 

[Kidd Karma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'>at least carter and williams are healthy.</div></p>

...and a big part of what we do now. </p>

 

[SportsTicker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd Karma)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'>at least carter and williams are healthy.</div></p>

...and a big part of what we do now. </p>

</div></p>

And even with Carter's extension, the Nuggets still owe Martin about the same as the Nets owe Carter over the next four years...$61.8M for Carter, $59.1M for Martin.</p>

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[lukewarmplay]

So.... they can be traded straight up, then!

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

Yay! </p>

If he was healthy that would be sweet.</p>

Kidd</p>

Wright (maybe trade Krstic for a SG, if he doesn't pan out this year)</p>

Richard Jefferson</p>

Kenyon Martin</p>

Krstic/Magloire. </p>

 

[Kidd Karma]

VC can't be traded until 12/15. But Kmart if healthy would be a nice add to this roster.