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How do red herrings work for you?

It's not a red herring. As evidenced by the unskewed polls, you have a tendency to latch onto misleading data that matches your biases.

Of course, we all do that to some degree... it's just a matter of degree.

barfo
 
It's not a red herring. As evidenced by the unskewed polls, you have a tendency to latch onto misleading data that matches your biases.

Of course, we all do that to some degree... it's just a matter of degree.

barfo

It is a red herring. It has nothing to do with polls, skewed or otherwise.
 
It is a red herring. It has nothing to do with polls, skewed or otherwise.

It's ok, I know I'm not going to get you to admit anything. I will continue to wonder, though, whether you even admit to yourself you were taken in by the 'unskewed poll' nonsense...

barfo
 
CNN poll released today. 75-54 and 20-42, Republicans lose.

Three-fourths of people questioned in the survey said that most congressional Republicans don't deserved to be re-elected, 21 percentage points higher than the 54% who say most Democrats don't deserve another term in office.

Only one in five say most Republicans deserve to be re-elected; 42% say the same thing about Democrats on Capitol Hill.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/21/politics/cnn-poll-shutdown-re-election/index.html
 
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...rillion-welfare-over-last-5-years_764582.html

"In the UK, six of the nation’s welfare programs have been consolidated into a single credit and total benefits have been capped at £26,000 (about $42,100 per family) in an effort to both improve standards and decrease net expenditures. A similar reform concept in the United States—combining welfare spending into a single credit—would still result in a surprisingly large welfare benefit while reducing expenditures and allowing for reforms that encourage self-sufficiency. For instance, a CATO study found that an average household in the District of Columbia currently receiving the six largest federal welfare benefits (Medicaid, TANF, SNAP, etc.) receives assistance with a converted cash value of $43,000. In Hawaii, it’s $49,000. Hypothetically, if net benefits from these myriad programs were combined into a single credit and capped at even 95 percent of that very large amount, it would save taxpayers billions while enabling reforms to promote self-sufficiency, reduce the penalty for working, and make the system fairer for taxpayers."

Wow. $43K for sitting on your ass. I mean, there's no actual benefit (work or goods sold) to the govt. in exchange. Bump it another $10K and half the households in the country wouldn't have to work.
 
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ter...oll-78-didn-t-miss-government-during-shutdown

(CNSNews.com) - A large majority of Americans say they did not miss the federal government when it was partially shutdown during the first half of October, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released today.

The survey conducted Oct. 17-20 asked 1,002 adults: “Were you personally inconvenienced by the partial shutdown of the federal government or not?”

If the person said they were inconvenienced, the survey asked this followup: “Was it a major inconvenience or a minor inconvenience?”

78 percent said that they were not inconvenienced by the partial shutdown of the government. Of the 22 percent who said they were inconvenienced, 11 percent said it was a major inconvenience and 11 percent said it was a minor inconvenience.

(Actual straight reporting, facts, no moon made of cheese bullshit)
 
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ter...oll-78-didn-t-miss-government-during-shutdown

(CNSNews.com) - A large majority of Americans say they did not miss the federal government when it was partially shutdown during the first half of October, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released today.

The survey conducted Oct. 17-20 asked 1,002 adults: “Were you personally inconvenienced by the partial shutdown of the federal government or not?”

If the person said they were inconvenienced, the survey asked this followup: “Was it a major inconvenience or a minor inconvenience?”

78 percent said that they were not inconvenienced by the partial shutdown of the government. Of the 22 percent who said they were inconvenienced, 11 percent said it was a major inconvenience and 11 percent said it was a minor inconvenience.

(Actual straight reporting, facts, no moon made of cheese bullshit)
I just received this snippet in my inbox.
Our US customers find themselves in a time of need for increased capabilities while their budgets continue to decline due to Congressional infighting.
 

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