Thunder @ Blazers! 02/06/2012 - Game Thread!

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2-8 seeds mean almost nothing

The teams are all the same
 
2-8 seeds mean almost nothing

The teams are all the same
Being unable to close games is a legit concern.

At some point, it becomes mental. Ask LeBron and Wade last season.
 
Fuckin knees. Mutherfuckin knees cost us this game. Not Scott Foster, not LA, not Nate, etc. Brandon not being the calming influence out there dropping daggers at the buzzer is what we're fucking missing.

I'm about to cry right now.

It's a completely premature projection, but I'm actually kind of hopeful Eliot Williams can maybe get there eventually ... if given the time to mature into the role (maybe).
 
The Thunder are soooo lucky. They have 3 different closer type players. That's what separates them from the rest of the pack.

Most teams are happy enough to have one.

The Blazers have none.
 
Fuckin knees. Mutherfuckin knees cost us this game. Not Scott Foster, not LA, not Nate, etc. Brandon not being the calming influence out there dropping daggers at the buzzer is what we're fucking missing.

I'm about to cry right now.

if Roy had good knees coming out of college, he wouldn't have gone 6th. He was on borrowed time

STOMP
 
The Thunder are soooo lucky. They have 3 different closer type players. That's what separates them from the rest of the pack.

Most teams are happy enough to have one.

The Blazers have none.

In Durant's first two years he was told not to bother with defense. Just learn how to score in this league. Our coach has the opposite priority, which is why we lack great shooters.

Great shooting must be nursed along. Our coach takes it for granted in his system, so it never happens.
 
We REALLY need a starting caliber PG.

Crawford is not a PG, Nolan is not ready, Felton is Felton.
 
Nolan is "not ready?" How about, "Nolan has no talent."
 
Being unable to close games is a legit concern.

At some point, it becomes mental. Ask LeBron and Wade last season.

It's obviously a problem, but that's beside the point I was making

The tams that will end up in 208 are all basically equal
 
Nolan is "not ready?" How about, "Nolan has no talent."

Seriously.

Nolan is a worse athlete than Jeremy Lin. He's so slow for a point guard, has no real court vision, sketchy shot.

What exactly DOES he do?

Plus, he's OLD, drafted after his senior year. The Blazers picked a high floor low ceiling guy, but it turns out his floor is a lot lower than expected.
 
It's obviously a problem, but that's beside the point I was making

The tams that will end up in 208 are all basically equal

Perhaps in record, but not in actuality.
 
It's ridiculous how goaltending is not reviewable because it's considered a "judgement" call. I don't get it. Either the ball is on its downward movement or its not; either the ball hit the backboard first or it didn't. How is that based on judgement?
 
Seriously.

Nolan is a worse athlete than Jeremy Lin. He's so slow for a point guard, has no real court vision, sketchy shot.

What exactly DOES he do?

Plus, he's OLD, drafted after his senior year. The Blazers picked a high floor low ceiling guy, but it turns out his floor is a lot lower than expected.

Apparantly the Blazers want to fill their team with talentless, sub-par athletes like Babbit and Smith. Our drafting over the last 2 years has sucked.
 
Nolan is "not ready?" How about, "Nolan has no talent."

*sigh* Why can't we ever draft a good point guard? This organization is 0 out of 12 or something like that in the last 8 years.
 
Seriously.

Nolan is a worse athlete than Jeremy Lin. He's so slow for a point guard, has no real court vision, sketchy shot.

What exactly DOES he do?

Plus, he's OLD, drafted after his senior year. The Blazers picked a high floor low ceiling guy, but it turns out his floor is a lot lower than expected.

They were hoping for a Darren Collison. They got a really crappy player instead.
 
Idk, imo they're all basically equal

Clippers probably have an edge because of cp3

I'll take Clippers with CP3.

Lakers with Kobe.

Spurs with Manu.

Denver with Lawson, Miller and Gallinari

Over us.

The teams I think we are clearly better than are the Rockets with Lowry and the Jazz with no closer. Dallas is a wildcard depending on if Dirk regains his form.
 
Seriously.

Nolan is a worse athlete than Jeremy Lin. He's so slow for a point guard, has no real court vision, sketchy shot.

What exactly DOES he do?

Plus, he's OLD, drafted after his senior year. The Blazers picked a high floor low ceiling guy, but it turns out his floor is a lot lower than expected.

Ugh. Don't rub it in. Nolan looks so bad and tentative out there. How does a player like Lin go undrafted, while a schmuck like Smith go in the 1st round?
 
that was a very bad call. but i can't pin this one on the refs...we were terrible in OT, and had like 2 good shots.

nic needs to start at SG

Dude, if there were ever a game where it is patently clear that the ref changed the outcome of the game with a horrible call, it'd be this one. You can't say "can't pin this one on the refs". He makes the right call, we won the game. Simple.
 
Point guards take years to develop. But you can see early whether it's a player's natural position. Nolan Smith will last in the NBA at point. He's doing fine for a late 1st round pick. Bayless is no point guard and I agreed with McMillan in getting him out of here. Sergio was a much better point guard than Bayless. McMillan's system knocks the wind out of their scoring confidence, except Bayless and his 1-track mind, and ruins them permanently.
 
4-14 in games that go to OT since beginning of '08. Pretty incredible considering they have averaged 50 wins per season over that span. Many of those losses were w/o Roy, or with a less-than-100% Roy. Man this team suffers through some gut-wrenching losses. There is just an inordinate amount of games they lose that they could of/should of won vs games they probably should not have won, but did. I really can only think of about 1 or 2 of those (the "Miller to Batum" vs SA game comes to mind).

B-Roy. If you're there . . . we miss you.
 
From BEdge: LOL, refs admitted that it was a block to Nate.

Nate McMillan's full comments on goaltending call: "I thought it was a good block. That game should have been over." How did they explain it? "They didn't explain it. They said it was a block and that was pretty much it. I thought that was a good block and that game should have been over." How frustrating was the call? "Again, what can you do? Nothing we can do. We'll send that in [to NBA office]. I thought it was a good block. They didn't call it that way and you have to go out and play."
 
4-14 in games that go to OT since beginning of '08. Pretty incredible considering they have averaged 50 wins per season over that span. Many of those losses were w/o Roy, or with a less-than-100% Roy. Man this team suffers through some gut-wrenching losses. There is just an inordinate amount of games they lose that they could of/should of won vs games they probably should not have won, but did. I really can only think of about 1 or 2 of those (the "Miller to Batum" vs SA game comes to mind).

B-Roy. If you're there . . . we miss you.

No cause stands out, since the sample sizes are big enough--18 games and 4 years. I can't isolate a cause from the 1-coach duration of time.

You see anything?
 
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How much do you think Scott Foster had on this game, being that he was the one most closed link to Donaghy? Is it true the line was Portland -1?
 

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