Time for a Change

[H.C.]

This thread is equal to the stupidity of all the threads last year claiming CJ > Lillard.

I get it, losing sucks.
But give me a break.

 

[jlprk]

This thread is equal to the stupidity of all the threads last year claiming CJ > Lillard.

I get it, losing sucks.
But give me a break.

I missed all those threads. Could you direct me to those threads? I was too busy saying the opposite, that McCollum isn't worth $26 million per year. Everyone dismissed me as fast as you're dismissing this thread.

 

[riverman]

We lost 3 in a row.....this is all it takes for total meltdowns...win 1 and everybody loves Stotts again. I have no problem with Stotts ...he's got a better record than Popovich this season

 

[Cippy91]

I don't know why when we start losing people blame Stotts. He is a great coach, makes questionable decisions at times just like all coaches. I would put more blame on Olshey if anybody.

 

[hoopsjock]

I said I'm bored and you say you can prove me wrong. Go ahead.

Nah man, the problem I have is with your made up narrative that there has to be constant changes in order to succeed and that Olshey is automatically lazy if he doesn't make 456 transactions per season.

Plus you said "many" fans were bored not just yourself.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

This is why I should be coach and GM.

I don't care what you guys think about me.

 

[WillG]

100% agree. Stotts is vastly overrated.

Why does he stick with Aminu on ALdridge when it's clearly not working? To compound that error Aminu looked gassed and overworked - where Collins only had 19 minutes this game.

Stotts is TERRIBLE at in game management.
And all of the little things that have not been addressed in YEARS:
Why does Lillard start every change of possession (def rebound) under our own ring, receiving a hand-off from our front-court players. No wonder we are last in fast break points.
CJ has go ahead to brick it up - 1on4 whenever.
Opposition player falls to ground - our players casually continue through their play and don't push the tempo to take advantage? WTF?

Defensively we hardly ever deny the ball to players, play off of defensive assignments and play in spurts - as if we can just win the game when we decide.

I'm not going to go into how inefficient the movement on offense is, poor shot selection and turnovers.
We are the worst finishers on the break in the league - by far!

Yes we won 13 straight - That was in spite of Stotts and was all Superman level Lillard shouldering that run.

I understand the impact that a coach has on a team in the NBA is somewhat limited, and that there are not very many 'Good' replacements out there - but I would love to see what this team could do under a coach who would instill discipline and efficiency into our players.

Stotts has had a VERY generous tenure here in Portland, but it's time to see if a different coach can extract that last bit of performance from our team.

 

[HolyBackboard]

I've been a Stotts fan for years, but the close out of this year after the 13 game winning streak has completely convinced me that we need a change. I don't have a long winded speech, or a lot of stats, and I am not terribly upset about losing, but I am extremely disappointed about how we are losing. Who are some good options of replacements for Stotts?

One of my biggest gripes with Stotts is his inability to utilize a low-post threat. Remember, Dallas kept Dirk at the high post and Chandler was only there for the alley-oop. Even when we had LA, Terry let him roam freely on the perimeter. Now that we have Nurk, we never run plays to feed the beast even when we have a decisive advantage down low.

I've never been the biggest fan, but until someone comes on the market, he'll stay in Portland.

 

[Voodoo]

I have been a supporter for stotts for years, but I’ve finally joined the crowd that wants to experiment with a change. Is stotts a terrible coach? No, not at all but he’s just run his course and now I am over it.

Not that this is necessarily comparable, but I remember being surprised by Steve Kerr replacing Marc Jackson and how much of a difference it made for that team. I am not naive enough to expect that to happen here, but shoot it only happened there because they were willing to take a chance.

 

[jlprk]

Nah man, the problem I have is with your made up narrative that there has to be constant changes in order to succeed and that Olshey is automatically lazy if he doesn't make 456 transactions per season.

Plus you said "many" fans were bored not just yourself.

Well, if you can't disprove my theses, then prove your own...there should never be any trades, Stotts and Olshey should stay for life, and all other teams are wrong because they only keep coaches for half the time Stotts has been here.

Also, apparently you can prove that many people (not just me) aren't bored with the lack of change. Go ahead.

 

[H.C.]

I missed all those threads. Could you direct me to those threads? I was too busy saying the opposite, that McCollum isn't worth $26 million per year. Everyone dismissed me as fast as you're dismissing this thread.

If you were around when your 'thesis' was proven wrong by the play of CJ last year.
You wouldn't need a direction towards those threads.

People dismiss you, not because of your opinions. But because you only are visible when the recent play of the team dictates your opinions could be correct.

 

[tykendo]

I just don't think it is Terry's fault right now. I've gotten on him for not playing Nurk enough, and tonight maybe he should have rode those Refs arses more, and got thrownout. But who knows if that kinda chit really works except for Pop, and the Zen Master. I think injuries have hurt Terry just as much as anyone, and he deserves a little slack.

 

[jlprk]

you only are visible when the recent play of the team dictates your opinions could be correct.

For McCollum having a mediocre or poor game, that would be 80% of the games. So you want me to be visible a lot more, eh?
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If you were around when your 'thesis' was proven wrong by the play of CJ last year.

This "unchanging team" still has a better record than just about every team who made big changes last summer. I'm not saying Stotts should be safe but your whole argument can be proven wrong by the current seeding.

He said he could prove things, so I've been challenging that. So the academic word "thesis" fits.

 

[H.C.]

For McCollum having a mediocre or poor game, that would be 80% of the games. So you want me to be visible a lot more, eh?

This is not difficult to figure out.
Let me give you an example.

When Portland was getting torched this year by x guard going for a career high.
A certain poster would show up and say. 'This is why Lillard & CJ can't co-exist'.
Only to be no where to be found when Portland was holding x guards to their averages or below their averages.

This poster believed their posts were dismissed because of 'homerism'.
When in all actuality this poster was getting dismissed because he only bothered to post 'This is why Lillard & CJ can't co-exist'.
When they were getting torched. Never being around when they were playing average to good defense.

Much like you.

I said it twice, I hope you understand it.
However given your post history. You won't. Which is why much posters like portland2014 or swish3. You get dismissed.

 

[hoopsjock]

For McCollum having a mediocre or poor game, that would be 80% of the games. So you want me to be visible a lot more, eh?
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He said he could prove things, so I've been challenging that. So the academic word "thesis" fits.

Dude, in my first post where I quoted you I said that having a better record than pretty much every team that made big changes proves you wrong.

Just look at our division:
OKC-Major changes
Minny-Major changes
Denver-Major changes
Utah-Major changes

Portland has a better record than all of those teams. So no I don't need further proof that your theory is dumb, it clearly is wrong.

 

[hoopsjock]

Well, if you can't disprove my theses, then prove your own...there should never be any trades, Stotts and Olshey should stay for life, and all other teams are wrong because they only keep coaches for half the time Stotts has been here.

Also, apparently you can prove that many people (not just me) aren't bored with the lack of change. Go ahead.

Ha, lmao and you claimed others were using a strawman?

 

[joeBlazers]

Stotts should have 2 tasks:
1. help the team ( C.J for the most part) take better shots by always moving the ball first
2. play defense

 

[jlprk]

Portland has a better record than all of those teams. So no I don't need further proof that your theory is dumb, it clearly is wrong.

My "theory"--which every other team follows--that a team needs to improve itself every year and not take 3 years off--is what all teams have always followed without calling it a "theory." Where an exception has happened, you see a team die (e.g. Sonics in their last years, Lakers for the last Kobe years, etc.).

 

[jlprk]

I think injuries have hurt Terry just as much as anyone, and he deserves a little slack.

Actually, lack of injuries have made him look much better than he is. Compare to other teams.

OKC-Major changes
Minny-Major changes
Denver-Major changes
Utah-Major changes

Portland has a better record than all of those teams. So no I don't need further proof that your theory is dumb, it clearly is wrong.

Did you adjust the standings for injuries?

 

[jlprk]

This is not difficult to figure out.
Let me give you an example.

When Portland was getting torched this year by x guard going for a career high.
A certain poster would show up and say. 'This is why Lillard & CJ can't co-exist'.
Only to be no where to be found when Portland was holding x guards to their averages or below their averages.

This poster believed their posts were dismissed because of 'homerism'.
When in all actuality this poster was getting dismissed because he only bothered to post 'This is why Lillard & CJ can't co-exist'.
When they were getting torched. Never being around when they were playing average to good defense. Much like you.

Many have said that at least once, but not constantly. Readers will think I'm the poster to whom you refer. I don't think that was me. Right?

When I say we could get 2 or 3 good players for $26 million per year, I note McCollum's lack of contribution, and leave unsaid the fact that we already have a star guard and could use a star SF more than a redundant guard. Olshey says he won't consider such a move.

 

[jlprk]

Ha, lmao and you claimed others were using a strawman?

Well, that's the consistent tone of your posts---as the Board Guardian of the Status Quo And Defender of Blazer Management.

 

[hoopsjock]

Actually, lack of injuries have made him look much better than he is. Compare to other teams.



Did you adjust the standings for injuries?

Can you honestly claim that if the Blazers had injuries this year that you would adjust the standings for them when considering the job the coach and GM did? Doubt it.

Did you give the Blazers a free pass back in the Roy/Oden days?

 

[jlprk]

Can you honestly claim that if the Blazers had injuries this year that you would adjust the standings for them when considering the job the coach and GM did? Doubt it.

Did you give the Blazers a free pass back in the Roy/Oden days?

You're saying that you wouldn't? Obviously, you should. Some current coaches had major players out this season for the whole season. You don't take that into account when assessing their performances? Why not?

 

[CupWizier]

For McCollum having a mediocre or poor game, that would be 80% of the games. So you want me to be visible a lot more, eh?

Over the years I have read a lot of stupid posts, but yours tops the cake.

 

[kjironman1]

We lost 3 in a row.....this is all it takes for total meltdowns...win 1 and everybody loves Stotts again. I have no problem with Stotts ...he's got a better record than Popovich this season

With arguably less talent.

 

[jlprk]

Over the years I have read a lot of stupid posts, but yours tops the cake.

Whatever it takes to shock people into seeing this team's great roster imbalance. A cup and a cake. I'll start watching your posts more carefully.

 

[hoopsjock]

My "theory"--which every other team follows--that a team needs to improve itself every year and not take 3 years off--is what all teams have always followed without calling it a "theory." Where an exception has happened, you see a team die (e.g. Sonics in their last years, Lakers for the last Kobe years, etc.).

My problem with this is your complete refusal to acknowledge that the team HAS in fact improved in year #3. You claiming otherwise just makes everything else you say pointless.

Well, that's the consistent tone of your posts---as the Board Guardian of the Status Quo And Defender of Blazer Management.

This summer the team has more avenues to add upgrades if they choose to do so. I will be disappointed if they don't go All-In and use the TPE. Last summer the changes mostly hinge on how good Collins becomes. If he develops into a quality starter then you can't say last summer was a failure. If he flames out and the Blazers don't build on their season this summer then I will be right there with you wanting big changes.

 

[kjironman1]

This is why I should be coach and GM.

I don't care what you guys think about me.

Exhibited by all the names you let people call you. Seems to just roll off like water on a ducks back.

 

[jlprk]

My problem with this is your complete refusal to acknowledge that the team HAS in fact improved in year #3. You claiming otherwise just makes everything else you say pointless.


This summer the team has more avenues to add upgrades if they choose to do so. I will be disappointed if they don't go All-In and use the TPE. Last summer the changes mostly hinge on how good Collins becomes. If he develops into a quality starter then you can't say last summer was a failure. If he flames out and the Blazers don't build on their season this summer then I will be right there with you wanting big changes.

For status quoers, it's always, wait another year.

 

[kjironman1]

Stotts has had a VERY generous tenure here in Portland, but it's time to see if a different coach can extract that last bit of performance from our team.

This last statement makes me wonder? So you think this team should stay the way it is and get a new coach?
Wouldn't getting the coach a better team/players change every one of those issues you have?