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Not yet. He does rebound and shoot well, so two out of three ain't bad.
He's a moron, and it's hard to get over that. Swaggy P, Jennings, Westbrook, and more haven't and probably never will. That being said,

1) he's accomplished more sooner than I thought he would (so, suck it, me)
2) he's a very hard worker off the court.
3) he's humble.

he has a chance - I'm rooting for him.
 
Like a lot of folks here, he is of average intelligence. Unlike a lot of folks here, he doesn't think he's smart.
 
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He's not a moron. I actually think he might be so intelligent that he overthinks everything which leads to a lot of clumsy plays. Mccollum has the same problem, except he doesn't have Leonard's physical skills or natural talent.

Swaggy p and Westbrook are just selfish ball hogs.
 
After the last 4 games in the rotation:
19.95 MPG | 9.25 PPG | 8.25 RPG | 58.33 FG% | 45.45 3P% | 100.00 FT%

Misc Totals: 2 Steals, 1 Assist, 1 Turnover
 
Spencer Hawes 2014-15:

17.3 MPG | 6.2 PPG | 4.5 RPG | 40.1 FG% | 31.5 3P% | 70.0 FT%
 
I now have hope for the kid. That's not something I could say 365 days ago. I bow to those who saw this coming.
 
He outplayed Kaman in the Laker game.
 
Spencer Hawes 2014-15:

17.3 MPG | 6.2 PPG | 4.5 RPG | 40.1 FG% | 31.5 3P% | 70.0 FT%
The fact that Hawes was Neil's #1 target last summer still sticks with me. I like Olshey - a lot - but he's had some questionable calls in his brief time with us. So, so, sooooo happy he whiffed on Hawes.
 
The fact that Hawes was Neil's #1 target last summer still sticks with me. I like Olshey - a lot - but he's had some questionable calls in his brief time with us. So, so, sooooo happy he whiffed on Hawes.

Well Hawes maybe sucking in LA right now, but that may have been different in Portland. I know you aren't a Aldridge fan, but there is a reason why Kaman has revamped his career and Lopez is having a career 2 years. When the attention is on Aldridge (usually having their best defender on him), that allows less attention on Lopez and Kaman. I could see Hawes coming in as the replacement for Aldridge (mid range to 3 point shooter) and Freeland being the same player he is for Lopez.
 
The fact that Hawes was Neil's #1 target last summer still sticks with me. I like Olshey - a lot - but he's had some questionable calls in his brief time with us. So, so, sooooo happy he whiffed on Hawes.

I still wonder, however, how Hawes would fare in our offense rather than LA's. It was said many times last year that Hawes in Philly is what we basically hoped Leonard would become. Now that he has done so, is it really all that unreasonable to think that Hawes couldn't/wouldn't have been at least as successful had he signed here?
 
I still wonder, however, how Hawes would fare in our offense rather than LA's. It was said many times last year that Hawes in Philly is what we basically hoped Leonard would become. Now that he has done so, is it really all that unreasonable to think that Hawes couldn't/wouldn't have been at least as successful had he signed here?
Even if we got the PHI version of Hawes, I wasn't excited about the idea. And now that he's playing horribly on a supposedly high-octane offensive team, run by a player many consider to be one of the best PGs to play the game, I'm even happier that Neil struck out.
Also, would we have been able to get Blake if we had succeeded in getting Hawes?
 
Even if we got the PHI version of Hawes, I wasn't excited about the idea. And now that he's playing horribly on a supposedly high-octane offensive team, run by a player many consider to be one of the best PGs to play the game, I'm even happier that Neil struck out.
Also, would we have been able to get Blake if we had succeeded in getting Hawes?
Yes, we would have, because Hawes would have signed for the MLE, just like Kaman did.

My point, however, is simply that Hawes sucking in LA doesn't necessarily mean that Olshey was wrong to pursue him, because we don't know that he would have sucked here.
 
Yes, we would have, because Hawes would have signed for the MLE, just like Kaman did.

My point, however, is simply that Hawes sucking in LA doesn't necessarily mean that Olshey was wrong to pursue him, because we don't know that he would have sucked here.
That's true. I guess I just like using the fact that he sucks now to validate my distaste for us targeting him in the first place. :ghoti:
 
Mags:

Welcome to the "Meyers Leonard has a rare set of skills and athleticism for a very tall man and it usually takes very tall men a number of years to become proficient NBA players and he hasn't been a very tall basketball player for very long and it was nuts to conclude so early in his training that he would 'never' improve so be patient with his development it will most likely pay off big time" club. We saved you a seat.

:cheers:
 
Wow--that's a long name for this club. We could abbreviate it, but I'm not exactly sure how to pronounce "MLHARSOSAAFAVTMAIUTVTMANOYTBPNPAHHBAVTBPFVLAIWNTCSEIHTTHWNISBPWHDIWMLPOBT". A little help?
 
From the holy book of Meyers Leonard, on reddit.
I was not always faithful but I repent my sins
Now join me in prayer:
Our Meyers, which art in rip city,
Hallowed be thy Name.
Thy skill has come.
Thy will be done in game,
As it is in practice.
Give us this day our daily trey.
And forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive you that trespass against us with your dumb fouls for three-ish years.
And lead us not into temptation... of trading you for Wilson Chandler,
But deliver us from evil.
For the three line is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory,
For ever and ever.
Amen. And fuck the Rockets.
 
He's not a moron. I actually think he might be so intelligent that he overthinks everything which leads to a lot of clumsy plays. Mccollum has the same problem, except he doesn't have Leonard's physical skills or natural talent.

Swaggy p and Westbrook are just selfish ball hogs.

ANYONE who takes a double-pump underhand 3 pointer with 5 or 6 seconds on the clock is a moron, period. If Shaq cared, Leonard would be a Shaqtin' a fool champ.
 
Didn't want to start a new thread, or bump the old Lakers Game Thread, so I thought I'd post this here...

Yep, he certainly can't be accused of poor shot selection. He only shoots when he's open and feeling it. His TS% of .618 is now best on the team. We don't need him jacking up a ton of shots. Were far better of with him taking a few GOOD shots when the defense slacks off him.

After last night's game, Leonard's TS% is all the way up to a very impressive .651. What's most impressive is he isn't padding his stats during garbage time, his numbers have actually increased while playing meaningful minutes against good competition with the game on the line. Last night was a perfect example. He was on the floor at the end with the game on the line. He didn't hurt the team, he actually helped seal the win hitting 3-3 FTs to give the Blazers a full two-possession lead with 1:08 left. He scored 9 points on 3 FGA. It doesn't get much more efficient than that.

He's still only 22 with 2.5 years of NBA experience. He still has a long way to go, but he's a hard worker and showing steady improvement. I think it's now fair to say he's an "average" NBA player. His PER = 15.2, he averages a respectable 13.4 PTS/36 and 10.3 REB/36. His WS/48 = .193, his ORtg = 125 and his DRtg = 100. He has a positive VORP (+0.5) and his shooting percentages are all excellent (.516 FG%, .442 3FG% and .895 FT%). He doesn't force up bad shot and he doesn't turn the ball over.

Again, he's still a work in progress with much to learn, but I'm so glad the team, the coaches, his teammates, and most of all Meyers himself, didn't give up on this kid.

BNM
 
This kid is really focusing on the gaps in his game and making progress. He's going to help come playoff time off the bench.
 
For the Wiz game, I was impressed with his 3 point attempt and subsequent 3 foul shots. When he slam dunks and posterizes LeBron, I'll get on one knee and call him a Blazer god. :blazerwookie:
 
Leonard since getting some consistency in p/t is in the 50/40/90 club with a PER well over 20.

He needs more shots.
 
I never knew a thread like this existed. I will gladly accept my crow. He has looked like a legit NBA player now and never takes a bad shot. Really the only bad shot he takes is the one he decides to pass when he is wide open. Leonard has been a nice surprise for us.
 
Well I wasn't ready to say this when this thread was created, now I have to.

Nards belongs. He's consistent and reliable.

My question is. When Freeland is healthy... Does Kaman continue to get 15-20minutes a night.
Freeland+Nards = quality back up big men. Who can fill in for the starters should the need arise.

Never thought I'd have to say.

Well I was wrong about Nards.
 
Interesting thing about it all is that Kaman was brought in to help Meyers and he has..Kaman said in an interview that Meyers is a way better shooter than he is. Blake will help CJ...these moves will pay dividends down the road. Olshey extended two guys last fall..CJ and Meyers. Guess he was right
 

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