To defend our democracy against Trump, the GOP must aim for a brokered convention

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DONALD TRUMP’S primary victories Tuesday present the Republican Party with a stark choice. Should leaders unite behind Mr. Trump, who has collected the most delegates but may reach the convention in July without a nominating majority? Or should they do everything they can to deny him the nomination? On a political level, this may be a dilemma. As a moral question, it is straightforward. The mission of any responsible Republican should be to block a Trump nomination and election.

We do not take this position because we believe Mr. Trump is perilously wrong on the issues, although he is. His proposed tariff on Chinese imports could spark a trade war and global depression. His proposed tax plan would bankrupt the government while enriching his fellow multimillionaires. But policy proposals, however ill-formed and destructive, are not the crux of the danger.

No, Mr. Trump must be stopped because he presents a threat to American democracy. Mr. Trump resembles other strongmen throughout history who have achieved power by manipulating democratic processes. Their playbook includes a casual embrace of violence; a willingness to wield government powers against personal enemies; contempt for a free press; demonization of anyone who is not white and Christian; intimations of dark conspiracies; and the propagation of sweeping, ugly lies. Mr. Trump has championed torture and the murder of innocent relatives of suspected terrorists. He has flirted with the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacists. He has libeled and stereotyped wide swaths of humanity, including Mexicans and Muslims. He considers himself exempt from the norms of democratic contests, such as the release of tax returns, policy papers, lists of advisers and other information that voters have a right to expect.

Does a respect for democracy require the Republican Party to anoint its leading vote-getter? Hardly. We are not advocating that rules be broken but that they be employed to maximum effect — to force a brokered convention and nominate a conservative candidate who respects the Constitution, or to defeat Mr. Trump in some other way. If Mr. Trump is attracting 40 percent of Republicans, who in turn represent about one-quarter of the country, that is a 10 percent slice of the population — hardly a mantle of legitimacy.

There are some Americans, Democrats in particular, who are happy to watch the Republican Party self-destruct with Mr. Trump at the helm. We cannot share in their equanimity. For one thing, though Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee, would be heavily favored, a Trump defeat is far from sure. For another, the country needs two healthy parties and, ideally, a contest of ideas and ideology — not a slugfest of insults and bigotry. Mr. Trump’s emergence already has done grave damage to American civility at home and prestige abroad. The cost of a Trump nomination would be far higher.

On Wednesday, Mr. Trump offered what was meant as an argument for his nomination. If he reaches the convention with a lead short of an outright majority, and then fails to win, “I think you’d have riots,” Mr. Trump said. “I think you’d have problems like you’ve never seen before. I think bad things would happen.”

A democrat disavows violence; a demagogue wields it as a threat. The Republican Party should recognize the difference and act on it before it is too late.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...4399d4-eb9c-11e5-bc08-3e03a5b41910_story.html
 
I think republicans shouldn't take advice from the Washington Post or the New York Times. Neither have the country's or the party's best interests at heart.

Geez.
 
I don't like Hillary at all but I don't see any way he could beat her. She will win the overwhelming majority of female and minority votes.
 
That article is chock full of horse shit and half truths, and tops it off with an outright lie. I watched Trump on Fox. His comment was not offered as "an argument for his nomination. If he reaches the convention with a lead short of an outright majority, and then fails to win," His was a reply to a question, and I paraphrase "What do you think would happen if you took a near majority into the convention and the GOP tried to bring in someone who had not won any delegates, and handed the nomination to him" The question was a veiled reference to Mit as near as I remember.

Trumps response was a bit longer than just the quote mined bit, as you can imagine
 
This sort of thinking pisses me off no end! The idea that the political elite can and should override the majority of the people voting is so damn wrong.

The arrogant bastards will leave this nation with one left to center organization, and a half dozen others from center to right.

I can only hope Trump wins it out right and we then screws these self appointed power brokers over big time.

Actually the voters have been doing their job quite well.
 
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Kasich has only one road to becoming President, become Vice President first.

If Trump does not have the votes to win out right on first ballot, then I still don't know what the hell these stop Trump assholes are talking about.
Trump and Kasich surely will have the votes if they make the deal. Very doubtful any other two could combine and have enough votes.
Trump could combine with anyone and have the votes, although I can't see him dealing with Rubio, he doesn't need any help with Florida.

Can't imagine what these stop Trump fools are thinking? Maybe I am exaggerating their activity, calling it thinking.
 
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Can't imagine what these stop Trump fools are thinking? Maybe I am exaggerating their activity, calling it thinking.




Yeah, funny enough, I was just reading an article, seems the self appointed or should I say anointed party wise men are contemplating a third party run if Trump prevails.

Does their self preservation show yet?
 
Yeah, funny enough, I was just reading an article, seems the self appointed or should I say anointed party wise men are contemplating a third party run if Trump prevails.

Does their self preservation show yet?

Too damn loud!
 
enriching his fellow multimillionaires

That's a dig, right? I know some people have postulated that he's worth a fraction of what he claims.
 
That's a dig, right? I know some people have postulated that he's worth a fraction of what he claims.

Maybe that's true and he is looking to take a page out of the Clinton book and make millions due to the fact of who he is/was.

Has worked well for the "totally broke leaving the white house" Clintons and their "foundation" which makes them millionaires many times over.

Cynic? Maybe just a little.
 
That's what the media wants you to believe anyways. There are still women today that dont see a woman fit to run the country. And there are plenty of minorities that like Trump too.

So she probably will have more of those groups voting for him, but I don't think it's as wide as you'd think

I really don't pay attention to "the media" at all.

What makes you think that?
 
I didn't say anything about what you do or don't do. I just made a comment on your post. The media wants you to think women and minorities hate Trump. But they all dont.
I don't think they all do. I'm pretty confident that most do though.
 
According to this article in the OP, the republican leadership believes the way to protect democracy is to take away the voice of the voters? Did I read that right? WOW!

This faulty thinking will further fuel the belief of the majority that our government is run by a few big special interests only looking out for themselves, and not the voters.

What this campaign is really about, and what the voters have been saying is our government is now less responsive to the voters than several decades ago. The voters are angry and looking for new leaders that will work for the people, and not for themselves and their financial supporters.

As wacky and uninformed on the issues as Trump is, he offers to fill this need. He will shift the power of the government away from the old special interest groups. The old republican guard is not protecting democracy by fighting Trump; they are protecting themselves and the power they will lose if Trump wins. And that is why Trump is becoming so popular.

Many people do not want more socialist programs that results in running up a larger national dept, but that also do not want the special interest groups controlling their future. The people want to have more of a say in our government and our future, which is true democracy. Is anyone in government listening???
 
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As someone who wants to see the Republican party damage itself, I really don't know what I would prefer. Assuming Trump doesn't win the pick outright, stick with Trump and alienate a huge swath of republicans who detest Trump and have vowed to never vote for him. Supplant Trump with some other republican and alienate the huge swath of voters that will feel disenfranchised by their votes not counting. Either way, as long as Trump doesn't win the nomination outright, I think the Republican party gets ripped apart.
 
I think republicans shouldn't take advice from the Washington Post or the New York Times. Neither have the country's or the party's best interests at heart.

Geez.

Man, I feel sorry for you guys. It's OK to disagree, but you can't see the forest for the trees.
 
Man, I feel sorry for you guys. It's OK to disagree, but you can't see the forest for the trees.

Those two newspapers are notoriously tilted left. Only a fool would believe them to offer honest advice to republicans.

Breitbart has some advice for Democrats to fix the dysfunctional organization they call a "party."
 
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Kasich has only one road to becoming President, become Vice President first.

If Trump does not have the votes to win out right on first ballot, then I still don't know what the hell these stop Trump assholes are talking about.
Trump and Kasich surely will have the votes if they make the deal. Very doubtful any other two could combine and have enough votes.
Trump could combine with anyone and have the votes, although I can't see him dealing with Rubio, he doesn't need any help with Florida.

Can't imagine what these stop Trump fools are thinking? Maybe I am exaggerating their activity, calling it thinking.

Kasich hates Donald Trump.
 
That's a dig, right? I know some people have postulated that he's worth a fraction of what he claims.

He claims he's worth 5 billion dollars. Three of those billions he's attaching to the worth of his name....

Yeah.... 5 BILLION DOLLARS!!! :drevil:
 
That's what the media wants you to believe anyways. There are still women today that dont see a woman fit to run the country. And there are plenty of minorities that like Trump too.

So she probably will have more of those groups voting for him, but I don't think it's as wide as you'd think

Finding one or two and his crowds means absolutely nothing. Minorities aren't voting for Donald Trump... Hilarious... Only the self-hating ones...
 
For those of you that think most minorities and women hate donald. Lets think about this.

64% of America is white. For simplicity sake let's say 50% are male, 50% female.

So 32% is white male. How many of those are republican? I might be biased being in Oregon, but on the west coast the number is low. In the south and Midwest much higher. We will say conservatively 10% are not republican. So 22% are republican. Then probably 10-20% of those likely won't even vote. So we are down to like 19%.

Add in 5% of women, and 5% of minorities, minus 10% of those unlikely to vote. We are up to 28% of America voting for donald.

He should get slaughtered if that's the case in a ge. So I suppose the #'s will speak for themselves if he makes it. I'll be interested to see how it plays out.
 
Probably right. But the numbers won't lie if he makes it to ge. If he is slaughtered, they definitely hate him. If he wins, the numbers would likely show more support him than thought of

There's absolutely no way Trump is winning the general election. And just because we don't vote for him doesn't mean we hate him. We simply despise what he stands for.
 
I am thinking of wishing a kidney stone on you.
Please understand, I only wish the republican party to damage itself because I believe that America will be better off. It's not out of some dislike of the people, just of the policy. Just as I'm certain that you would believe that America would be better off if we were more conservative.

My statement sounded much meaner than I intended, I am a lefty, I believe in moving America more towards the left, although I certainly have my limits on that bent too.
 
I am thinking of wishing a kidney stone on you.

Wow... That's weird... of all the bad things right-wingers say to us and about us, he simply said that he wants the Republican party to damage themselves and you want to wish him physical harm for that?
 

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