To Live (94), one of my all time favorite movies

[julius]

If you have a free 2 hours+, I suggest this movie.

It's subtitled (for you guys who hate foreign movies, that means it's a foreign movie).

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I watched this in college, and loved it immediately. Somewhere I have my copy of it, but luckily it's on youtube.

iirc, I also watched Yellow Earth at the same time.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Somehow subtitles lose a lot of meaning to me.

 

[julius]

Somehow subtitles lose a lot of meaning to me.

why does this not surprise me

 

[jlprk]

A Chinese movie that's widely seen in the U.S.? I'm guessing it's anti-China or else anti-communist, right?

Why don't they dub in Italian accents with bearded macho men aged 50 alongside big-boobed brunettes aged 35, arguing until they finally do it at the end of the movie. Make a Chinese-Italian movie.

 

[julius]

A Chinese movie that's widely seen in the U.S.? I'm guessing it's anti-China or else anti-communist, right?

Why don't they dub in Italian accents with bearded macho men aged 50 alongside big-boobed brunettes aged 35, arguing until they finally do it at the end of the movie. Make a Chinese-Italian movie.

It's not so much anti-communism (although to a degree it was) as much as it was a story about a family who lived through the times, their children and the impact on communism in their lives.

It did get banned in China though.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Is Jackie Chan in it? I only like Chinese movies with Jackie Chan.

 

[jlprk]

It's not so much anti-communism (although to a degree it was) as much as it was a story about a family who lived through the times, their children and the impact on communism in their lives.

It did get banned in China though.

The U.S. government is so predictable. I could predict that and I knew nothing about the movie. Also, Jackie Chan made some remarks recently about China being better than the U.S.

 

[julius]

The U.S. government is so predictable. I could predict that and I knew nothing about the movie. Also, Jackie Chan made some remarks recently about China being better than the U.S.

What does the US government have to do with anything?

 

[jlprk]

Who do you think is behind deciding which foreign propaganda gets imported and which gets excluded?

Market forces? Ha ha! You must think intelligence agencies sit on their asses all day eating popcorn!

 

[julius]

Who do you think is behind deciding which foreign propaganda gets imported and which gets excluded?

Market forces? Ha ha! You must think intelligence agencies sit on their asses all day eating popcorn!

Again, whats that got to do with anything?

It was made in China, buy a Chinese director, and they (China government) banned it because they (the China government) felt it was not portraying certain aspects of their (Chinese) history in a positive light. The US government had nothing to do with the production, distribution and marketing of said movie.

It was imported into the US because it was a good movie. And even with that, it was barely seen here.

So again, I ask..what does the US government have to do with anything about this movie?

 

[jlprk]

It appears to have been made in 1994, since that's in the title. Of all good movies made in China in the last 19 years, how many would you say have been shown in the U.S. enough to be available for an average person like you to have gone to see?

Now divide that number (it's probably just this one) by the total. What do we have, 1 out of 100? 1 out of 50? It will be way below 50-50.

But I do know the odds are small that what we're allowed to see is truly random, and not influenced behind the scenes by our government. If you have any intuitive skills in what is probable in the real world, instead of knee-jerk belief in the ideal world, then you will understand it. If not, then I can't explain it any better.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

why does this not surprise me

As I with you.

There is so much more to movies than subtitles. I guess I'm a purist.

 

[julius]

As I with you.

There is so much more to movies than subtitles. I guess I'm a purist.

A purist? Are you taking lessons on how to post nonsense from jlprk?

 

[julius]

It appears to have been made in 1994, since that's in the title. Of all good movies made in China in the last 19 years, how many would you say have been shown in the U.S. enough to be available for an average person like you to have gone to see?

Now divide that number (it's probably just this one) by the total. What do we have, 1 out of 100? 1 out of 50? It will be way below 50-50.

But I do know the odds are small that what we're allowed to see is truly random, and not influenced behind the scenes by our government. If you have any intuitive skills in what is probable in the real world, instead of knee-jerk belief in the ideal world, then you will understand it. If not, then I can't explain it any better.

So the US government is censoring films made in China, by not having them broadcast here in big #'s?

Maybe it's the companies that sell and market the movies knowing that the audiences in the US don't tend to go for foreign films?

You and BlazerProphet sure are making this out to be something it's not.

Here's an idea, why don't the two you actually watch the film (even with it's dreaded subtitles....I mean, get this..there is music and body language too! Oh wait, not in English, fuck it)

 

[santeesioux]

Gong Li is still hot and she's like 50 /MickZagger

 

[jlprk]

Blazer Prophet has always been my favorite conservative on the board. He seems to have a conscience.

Denny's probably second, but don't tell him, otherwise he won't let me punch him around anymore.

 

[PapaG]

Rashomon, a Japanese movie with subtitles, is still one of my favorites of all-time. It was made in 1950.

Such a true portrayal of personal bias regarding any given situation, that it's yet to be topped.

I'll give To Live a watch when I get the chance, because I'm sure it's worth it to, even with subtitles.

Related to this is the movie is the Dutch original version of The Vanishing, titled Spoorloos, which had a way better ending than the US remake that had Jeff Bridges/Kiefer Sutherland in it. It always makes me think how unimportant the language spoken is to a movie when you see a great film visually and in terms of story. If you have to read the dialogue, whatever.

 

[PapaG]

Blazer Prophet has always been my favorite conservative on the board. He seems to have a conscience.

Denny's probably second, but don't tell him, otherwise he won't let me punch him around anymore.

You've always been my least favorite poster on the board. You're not serious, you lack a conscience, and nobody knows anything about you, other than you treat this place as a joke. Which is odd, considering how much time of your life you spend on message boards.

 

[julius]

Rashomon, a Japanese movie with subtitles, is still one of my favorites of all-time. It was made in 1950.

Such a true portrayal of personal bias regarding any given situation, that it's yet to be topped.

I loved Rashomon, and Yojimbo and of course, Seven Samurai. The story-telling of those movies is so great, that the fact it's not in English has little impact on the quality of the films. In fact, I'd say in English, they'd be worse movies.

I'll give To Live a watch when I get the chance, because I'm sure it's worth it to, even with subtitles.

Related to this is the movie is the Dutch original version of The Vanishing, titled Spoorloos, which had a way better ending than the US remake that had Jeff Bridges/Kiefer Sutherland in it. It always makes me think how unimportant the language spoken is to a movie when you see a great film visually and in terms of story. If you have to read the dialogue, whatever.

I totally rented that and burned it. I don't remember if I kept it though (never watched it). I lost the HD it was on, and I don't remember if I burned it or transferred it onto another HD.

I think I'll give it a try, either to find it or check it out again. Thanks for the reminder.