Todas Las Cosas Fultz

[3RA1N1AC]

I’m a fan of his, and watch sixers games to see him occasionally. Dude just looks like...fucked. Half the time he seems like he is dribbling the ball out of control...on purpose. With a bored expression in his face. Like he just doesn’t care about basketball whatsoever.

He has got some elite hesitation moves, dude can get anywhere he wants to on the court, but fuck. He’s just in over his head, like the game is too fast for him mentally, and he’s too proud to admit it to himself.

And then there’s his shooting issues.

I’ve thought that it might be possible he is just totally sandbagging, but I don’t think anyone wants to give up anything of value to find out.

 

[Natebishop3]

I’m a fan of his, and watch sixers games to see him occasionally. Dude just looks like...fucked. Half the time he seems like he is dribbling the ball out of control...on purpose. With a bored expression in his face. Like he just doesn’t care about basketball whatsoever.

He has got some elite hesitation moves, dude can get anywhere he wants to on the court, but fuck. He’s just in over his head, like the game is too fast for him mentally, and he’s too proud to admit it to himself.

And then there’s his shooting issues.

I’ve thought that it might be possible he is just totally sandbagging, but I don’t think anyone wants to give up anything of value to find out.

It's weird because this isn't an Anthony Bennett situation. This guy was legitimately a #1 pick level talent. He's just broken.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

At the time, he was the clear #1. It was him, and everybody else.

Idk man. Fucking weird. He’s gonna make like 30 million bucks though, so maybe he’s good with that. Retire at 22 set for life.

 

[Natebishop3]

At the time, he was the clear #1. It was him, and everybody else.

Idk man. Fucking weird. He’s gonna make like 30 million bucks though, so maybe he’s good with that. Retire at 22 set for life.

Someone will take him and try to fix him. I personally think Portland could do it. Look what happened with Nurk. He just didn't a change of scenery, and Dame is arguably the best leader in the NBA.

 

[Scalma]

Someone will take him and try to fix him. I personally think Portland could do it. Look what happened with Nurk. He just didn't a change of scenery, and Dame is arguably the best leader in the NBA.

You willing to give up Simons to find out?

 

[Natebishop3]

You willing to give up Simons to find out?

No.

 

[hoopsjock]

We do have TPE that we can trade for him. I would waived Baldwin if they do that and the reason why Baldwin because last game when he turnover the ball all he did was jog back and I don't think he is that good.

You're wrong about the TPE.

TPE= $3.6 million

Fultz=$8.3 million

It's not even close.

 

[hoopsjock]

I saw a report that the Cavs are hot after Fultz. Why are teams so stupid? Sounds like a good strategy to draft a PG with the 8th pick and then trade for one 20 games into the season.

 

[BonesJones]

If he gets his health back and is able his shot back to where it was, then hes a future all-star. I'd take that gamble in a heartbeat.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

His comp coming into the draft was Brandon Roy.

He's an elite level talent.

But how do you cure these yips of his?

 

[oldmangrouch]

His comp coming into the draft was Brandon Roy.

He's an elite level talent.

But how do you cure these yips of his?

I'm not convinced you can. Elite level jocks suffer bad injuries all the time. (many far worse the Fultz) It's said they all go through a period of "oh gawd, my body betrayed me!" The vast majority get down off their cross, use the wood to build a bridge, and get over it! Looks like Fultz is the exception.

The other really bad possibility is that the story about the motorcycle accident is true and everything else is just a scam to cover up how badly his body is broken.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I doubt the motorcycle thing is true. He's seen many different specialists and found nothing to suggest that his shoulder is jacked up.

It's mental. Coming back to the PNW with Dame as his mentor could eventually snap him out of this funk.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It's mental. Coming back to the PNW with Dame as his mentor could eventually snap him out of this funk.

Or not. Either way, we can afford to wait until he gets waived in a couple of years and tries to make a comeback.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Heir apparents:

Dame ---> Fultz
McCollum ---> Simons

Assuming the witch doctor hired to fix Fultz's yips works.

 

[blue9]

Heir apparents:

Dame ---> Fultz
McCollum ---> Simons

Assuming the witch doctor hired to fix Fultz's yips works.

I'd rather think about Fultz/Simmons commanding our bench, rather than replacing our current starters. That's the only way this team is ever gonna be any good.

 

[Scalma]

Heir apparents:

Dame ---> Fultz
McCollum ---> Simons

Assuming the witch doctor hired to fix Fultz's yips works.

If I’m Philly I’m asking for Simons in this theoretical trade.

 

[oldmangrouch]

FWIW, ESPN is reporting that Fultz's shoulder examination will continue through Wed.

3 full days to examine one joint? Isn't that a tad bit unusual? Was it always intended to take this long, or is this a reflection of what they found/didn't find today?

If I’m Philly I’m asking for Simons in this theoretical trade.

If I'm Portland, I'm telling them to bugger off.

 

[Scalma]

FWIW, ESPN is reporting that Fultz's shoulder examination will continue through Wed.

3 full days to examine one joint? Isn't that a tad bit unusual? Was it always intended to take this long, or is this a reflection of what they found/didn't find today?


If I'm Portland, I'm telling them to bugger off.

What else would we get him for, Biggie? Lol.

If Olshey wasn’t such a puss, I’d think about a CJ for Fultz/Chandler expiring/and a pick.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Funny to think that the best NBA player in that video is the kid from Flint.

 

[Pridan]

I'm with Nate, I think you take Fultz as a project and get Dame to put him arm around him and mentor him. Would our 1st Rounder be enough though?

 

[blue9]

If I’m Philly I’m asking for Simons in this theoretical trade.

Ain't no way a broken ass player like Fultz is going to get that sort of return. And yes, I realize that nobody in the NBA knows who Simons is.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I saw a report that the Cavs are hot after Fultz. Why are teams so stupid? Sounds like a good strategy to draft a PG with the 8th pick and then trade for one 20 games into the season.

THE OBVIOUS TRADE!!!

 

[hoopsjock]

THE OBVIOUS TRADE!!!

How about this instead:

Philly gets Korver, Zizic, and a 2022 2nd round pick via Cleveland

Cleveland gets Fultz and Turner

Portland gets JR Smith and a 2021 2nd round pick via Cleveland

76ers add a shooter and some big man depth. Cavs take a flier on Fultz.

Blazers save $3.2 million this year, and after waiving Smith this summer shave over $14.7 million off of their cap number for next year. On the surface that might not seem like a big deal but it would put the Blazers in a position to use the Full-MLE and Bi-Annual Exception this summer which they haven't been able to the last couple summers. Plus it has the added bonus of getting Turner out of the lineup.

 

[illmatic99]

Here's my deal.

Aminu + PHX 2nd round pick to PHL -- gets em their FA space for next summer and a decent second rounder.
Fultz and Meyers to PHX -- gets em a guard who could potentially work perfectly next to Booker and rids them of a Warren contract.
Warren and Bender to POR -- gets us our mainstay starting SF and forces Collins into starting PF position.

 

[hoopsjock]

Here's my deal.

Aminu + PHX 2nd round pick to PHL -- gets em their FA space for next summer and a decent second rounder.
Fultz and Meyers to PHX -- gets em a guard who could potentially work perfectly next to Booker and rids them of a Warren contract.
Warren and Bender to POR -- gets us our mainstay starting SF and forces Collins into starting PF position.

Warren scares me. He's in the 1st year of a 4 year contract so he still has 3 more years after this season we'd have to pay him. Unless CJ is traded I believe we need a 3 and D type of SF. Is Warren just off to a hot start shooting the 3 or is his true self his career 31%? On defense Warren starting would be a disaster. We couldn't hide any of our 3 perimeter defenders, that is a huge problem. Warren is also a bit of a ball stopper so it adds to our lack of passing.

 

[BonesJones]

Warren scares me. He's in the 1st year of a 4 year contract so he still has 3 more years after this season we'd have to pay him. Unless CJ is traded I believe we need a 3 and D type of SF. Is Warren just off to a hot start shooting the 3 or is his true self his career 31%? On defense Warren starting would be a disaster. We couldn't hide any of our 3 perimeter defenders, that is a huge problem. Warren is also a bit of a ball stopper so it adds to our lack of passing.

100% this. He'd be a great piece for Memphis. Not us.

 

[Sarni]

Warren scares me. He's in the 1st year of a 4 year contract so he still has 3 more years after this season we'd have to pay him. Unless CJ is traded I believe we need a 3 and D type of SF. Is Warren just off to a hot start shooting the 3 or is his true self his career 31%? On defense Warren starting would be a disaster. We couldn't hide any of our 3 perimeter defenders, that is a huge problem. Warren is also a bit of a ball stopper so it adds to our lack of passing.

He has a very good contract though, about $10million a year. I'm not sure about his fit next to Dame and CJ but he would be a very good third scoring option which we could use when one of them is off the floor. He's definitely a great scorer.

 

[Sarni]

I saw a report that the Cavs are hot after Fultz. Why are teams so stupid? Sounds like a good strategy to draft a PG with the 8th pick and then trade for one 20 games into the season.

Why? If he's available for peanuts then it's a ultimate low risk move. If all they have to give up is JR Smith or Kyle Korver, you do that in their position and try to figure out later how to fit him next to Sexton. If he can become a decent shooter (he was a good one in college, it's all about confidence and mechanics which isn't little but maybe not impossible) then you could even play them together. Cavs will not be competitive for the next 3-4 years, if they can get a talented guard and rejuvenate his career then it's good for their future in the long view - either he's a part of the rotation at the 2 next to Sexton or you use one of them as a trade chip when you eventually want to compete and are looking for different kind of assets.