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http://news.yahoo.com/boston-bombing-suspect-pleads-not-guilty-195009980.html

BOSTON (AP) — His arm in a cast and his face swollen, a blase-looking Dzhokhar Tsarnaev pleaded not guilty Wednesday in the Boston Marathon bombing in a seven-minute proceeding that marked his first appearance in public since his capture in mid-April.

As survivors of the bombing looked on, Tsarnaev, 19, gave a small, lopsided smile to his two sisters upon arriving in the courtroom. He appeared to have a jaw injury and there was swelling around his left eye and cheek.

Leaning into the microphone, he told a federal judge, "Not guilty" in his Russian accent and said it over and over as the charges were read. Then he was led away in handcuffs, making a kissing gesture toward his family with his lips. One of his sisters sobbed loudly, resting her head on a woman seated next to her.

Tsarnaev, who has been hospitalized since his capture with wounds suffered in a shootout and getaway attempt, faces 30 federal charges, including using a weapon of mass destruction to kill, in connection with the April 15 attack that left three people dead and more than 260 wounded. He could get the death penalty if prosecutors choose to pursue it.

The proceedings took place in a heavily guarded courtroom packed not only with victims but with their families, police officers, and members of the public and the media.
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The Russian immigrant and former college student looked much as he did in a photo widely circulated after his arrest, his hair curly and unkempt. Wearing an orange prison jumpsuit, he appeared nonchalant, almost bored, during the hearing. The cast covered his left forearm, hand and fingers.

The bombing victims showed little reaction in the courtroom after a federal marshal warned them against any outbursts.

Liz Norden, the mother of two men who lost their right legs in the bombings, said afterward: "I actually felt sick to my stomach."

MIT Police Chief John DiFava, who was also in the courtroom, said Tsarnaev looked "smug."

"I didn't see a lot of remorse. I didn't see a lot of regret," he said. "It just seemed to me that if I was in that position, I would have been a lot more nervous, certainly scared."
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DiFava added: "I just wanted to see him. I wanted to see the person that so coldly and callously killed four people, one of whom being an officer of mine."

Authorities say Tsarnaev orchestrated the bombing along with his older brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who died following a gun battle with police three days after the attack. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was arrested on April 19, hiding in a bloodstained boat in a suburban backyard after a manhunt that paralyzed much of the Boston area.

Tsarnaev is also charged in the killing of a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer and the carjacking of a motorist during their getaway attempt.

His two sisters were in court in Muslim garb. One was carrying a baby; the other wiped away tears with a tissue. Tsarnaev's parents remained back in Russia.

Tsarnaev's lawyer Judy Clarke, an expert in death penalty cases, asked that the judge enter not-guilty pleas for him, but U.S. Magistrate Judge Marianne Bowler said: "I would ask him to answer."
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On the same day as the arraignment, Boston's police commissioner appeared on Capitol Hill and complained to a Senate panel that the Justice Department failed to share information on terrorism threats with local officials before the bombing.

"There is a gap with information sharing at a higher level while there are still opportunities to intervene in the planning of these terrorist events," Commissioner Edward F. Davis III said.

Reporters and spectators began lining up for seats in the courtroom at 7:30 a.m. as a dozen Federal Protective Service officers and bomb-sniffing dogs surrounded the courthouse. Four hours before the 3:30 p.m. hearing, the defendant arrived at the courthouse in a four-vehicle motorcade.

About a dozen Tsarnaev supporters cheered as the motorcade arrived. The demonstrators yelled, "Justice for Jahar!" as Tsarnaev is known. One woman held a sign that said, "Free Jahar."

Lacey Buckley said she traveled from her home in Wenatchee, Wash., to attend the arraignment. She said she believes he is innocent. "I just think so many of his rights were violated. They almost murdered an unarmed kid in a boat," she said.
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A group of friends who were on the high school wrestling team with Tsarnaev at Cambridge Rindge and Latin waited in line for hours, hoping to get a seat.

One of them, Hank Alvarez, said Tsarnaev was calm, peaceful and apolitical in high school.

"Just knowing him, it's hard for me to face the fact that he did it," said Alvarez, 19, of Cambridge.

Prosecutors say Tsarnaev, a Muslim, wrote about his motivations for the bombing on the inside walls and beams of the boat. He scrawled that the U.S. government was "killing our innocent civilians," and also wrote: "We Muslims are one body, you hurt one you hurt us all."

Martin Richard, 8, Krystle Marie Campbell, 29, and Lingzi Lu, 23, were killed by the two bombs, which were fashioned out of pressure cookers, gunpowder, nails and other shrapnel. Numerous victims lost legs.
 
Wow. Sociopath?

Seriously? That's a preposterous conclusion to come to from this article.

Some dumbass cop says he looks smug, and he's a sociopath.

Oh, he didn't show remorse? No shit, he's pleading no guilty. Remorse would kinda hinder that whole deal.

Anyways, I have very little reason to believe anything the cops/lawyers/judges/witnesses say. So I don't.
 
Seriously? That's a preposterous conclusion to come to from this article.

Some dumbass cop says he looks smug, and he's a sociopath.

Oh, he didn't show remorse? No shit, he's pleading no guilty. Remorse would kinda hinder that whole deal.

Anyways, I have very little reason to believe anything the cops/lawyers/judges/witnesses say. So I don't.

Yes, what do those witnesses know. Are they really sure it was an explosion? Are they really sure they're missing limbs?
 
Seriously? That's a preposterous conclusion to come to from this article.

Some dumbass cop says he looks smug, and he's a sociopath.

Oh, he didn't show remorse? No shit, he's pleading no guilty. Remorse would kinda hinder that whole deal.


Anyways, I have very little reason to believe anything the cops/lawyers/judges/witnesses say. So I don't.


But I do believe him. "We Muslims are one body, you hurt one you hurt us all."

Jihad! I don't know the Fatwa he is following, it could be anyone of several.
 
It's just hard for me to believe in the American justice system right now, especially with something of this magnitude and importance. Actually, it's just hard to believe in anything America.

It also rustles my jimmies to see people using this tragedy to try to make people more patriotic.
 
Some of the photos were pretty compelling.... I'm not even convinced he did it.
 
I think it's very likely he did it. But I am very disturbed by the "fuck the trial, just execute him" mentality.

Because once you accept that - it doesn't end.
 
I think it's very likely he did it. But I am very disturbed by the "fuck the trial, just execute him" mentality.

Because once you accept that - it doesn't end.

The images of the packs that were used for the bombs and the images of the packs they were carrying don't match up. There were also pictures of the two brothers leaving the scene with their backpacks on. It doesn't add up.

Also, add in that they basically murdered the other brother, it's all very sketchy.
 
I think it's very likely he did it. But I am very disturbed by the "fuck the trial, just execute him" mentality.

Because once you accept that - it doesn't end.

He shouldn't be executed until we get the name and location of the Imam that issued the Fatwa
he was following.

Once we get him, then we have the right guy.
 
The images of the packs that were used for the bombs and the images of the packs they were carrying don't match up. There were also pictures of the two brothers leaving the scene with their backpacks on. It doesn't add up.

Also, add in that they basically murdered the other brother, it's all very sketchy.

:lol: You gotta be kidding me! I'm pretty sure the backpacks they were filmed wearing matched up with what they found. Also they have eye witness testimony from a guy who had his legs blown off.
 
Seriously? That's a preposterous conclusion to come to from this article.

Some dumbass cop says he looks smug, and he's a sociopath.

Oh, he didn't show remorse? No shit, he's pleading no guilty. Remorse would kinda hinder that whole deal.

Anyways, I have very little reason to believe anything the cops/lawyers/judges/witnesses say. So I don't.

I'd love to hear your theories on how everything went down, especially if you are unwilling to accept the accounts of eyewitnesses.

And you're absolutely right -- my speculation was also based on his observed behavior outside the scope of this article.
 
I have no theories. To form a theory, you need to be educated on the matter. Education on this matter is unavailable, for various reasons.

Eyewitnesses have proven to be extremely unreliable time and again. Particularly witnesses who have been through a trauma. (like getting their legs blown off)
 
Its pretty obvious he did it, but there is due process. Also I agree that the witness are of little value and are probably more useful in tear jerker type stories. Saying "yes I saw an explosion and yes my arm was blown off" does not prove that this guy did it.
 
Its pretty obvious he did it, but there is due process. Also I agree that the witness are of little value and are probably more useful in tear jerker type stories. Saying "yes I saw an explosion and yes my arm was blown off" does not prove that this guy did it.

And the carjacking victim?
 
And the carjacking victim?

Good point, I assume he could provide good info, especially for the for car jacking charge. They presumably told him also that they were the bombers but Im not sure if thats considered hear say or not.
 
His family still thinks he's innocent and got set up from the get go.
 
I understand not wanting to blindly accept what the govt is saying. They have lied in the past and will most certainly do so again. But personally, I think this one is pretty obvious that at a minimum these two were guilty of killing an officer, shooting at police and exploding items over the course of the night they were captured. I also believe that they were most likely the ones who did the Boston bombings as that explains the rest of their actions. But I dont have evidence of the actual bombings. But, the night they were captured, I was on reddit reading minute by minute updates of what was transpiring over the course of the entire night. dozens of police from different agencies, and precincts were all communicating via radio and we were able to hear word for word all of it as it transpired. I know that conspiracies occur and you don't trust the police. OK. But, there were so many different people all communicating and calling in info and following the chaos of the night, and I see no way that there were that many people all scattered around, all perpetrating this giant hoax on the American people. The vast web of people involved that night makes a conspiracy very very very unlikely.

Just my thoughts.
 

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