Top 30 Current Players

[THE HCP]

on the all-time NBA top 250 scoring leaders list. Very Interesting!
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_career.html

1-Shaq
2-A.I.
3-Kobe
4-KG
5-Ray Allen
6-Duncan
7-Dirk
8-Pierce
9-Vince
10-T-Mac
11-Finley
12-Marbury
13-A. Jamison
14-Stackhouse
15-Juwan Howard
16-J Kidd
17- Sheed
18-Grant Hill
19-Nash
20-Rip Hamilton
21-The Matrix
22-Biby
23-Rashard Lewis
24-Lebron
25-Jason Terry
26-E. Brand
27-Billups
28-Peja
29-Cuttino Mobley
30-Andre Miller

We just signed 2 of 'em and I think 'Bron will retire the all-time leader!

 

[Wheels]

Thats RIGHT.. 2 of em B*tches! I dont know about Bron Bron catching Kareem though.

 

[BlazerFanForLife]

I dont see Bron catching Kareem the man hold these records...
Holds NBA career record for:
Most points (38,387)
Most minutes played (57,446)
Most field goals made (15,837)
Most field goals attempted (28,307)
Most All-Star selections (19)
Most All-Star games played (18)

 

[Mediocre Man]

Our bench will be awesome with Howard and Miller.

 

[mook]

Our bench will be awesome with Howard and Miller.

I used to get annoyed by your repetition of this line. At this point I'm just kind of embarrassed for you. I hate seeing somebody I generally like reading spiraling so far into the land of broken records.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I used to get annoyed by your repetition of this line. At this point I'm just kind of embarrassed for you. I hate seeing somebody I generally like reading spiraling so far into the land of broken records.

Your words comfort me.


How about this. Right now, we know Howard will be a bench player. We also have no idea who the starting PG is going to be, but the early favorite would have to be Blake because Nate has said he does not want to mess with a 54 win team.

Is that fair?

 

[BrianFromWA]

It's true: a Miller/Rudy/Webster/Howard/Oden 2nd unit is pretty good. With Travis as the 11th-man designated gunner.

 

[Wheels]

Your words comfort me.


How about this. Right now, we know Howard will be a bench player. We also have no idea who the starting PG is going to be, but the early favorite would have to be Blake because Nate has said he does not want to mess with a 54 win team.

Is that fair?

say it 11 posts in a row.. and that will be the MM I have grown to know recently

 

[Natebishop3]

I think Miller will be a huge contributing factor this season. Howard, I'm not so sure...

 

[Wheels]

I think Miller will be a huge contributing factor this season. Howard, I'm not so sure...

on the court from him? not at all. But the improvements in the mentality of our bigs I think we will see it from them, and he will help with that.

 

[graybeard]

Your words comfort me.


How about this. Right now, we know Howard will be a bench player. We also have no idea who the starting PG is going to be, but the early favorite would have to be Blake because Nate has said he does not want to mess with a 54 win team.

Is that fair?

MM, your Nate hate has clouded your brain. Yes, Nate said that the incumbents will have their jobs going into the season, which is the way it should be. However, that could change after the first practice if Nate decides another player is better at a position. What is so hard to understand about that? Stop the Nate hate, it is getting tiring and detracts from your normally intelligent posts.

The Sonics are no longer our rivals, so it's okay to accept Mr. Sonic. He's one of us, deal with it.

 

[barfo]

Nate says things he doesn't mean (or changes his mind about later). At this point it doesn't matter what he says about the lineup.

barfo

 

[Draco]

I was surprised to see Dirk so high, he could have quite a few years of high scoring left, especially being more of a jump shooter who doesn't rely on athleticism. Most of the other top scorer's outside of Kobe are getting up there in years.

 

[MrJayremmie]

Most of the other top scorer's outside of Kobe are getting up there in years.

Well Kobe is in his 30s, so he is gettin' up there as well. And he came right from High school, so his body has more wear and tear on it than others.

 

[huevonkiller]

Well Kobe is in his 30s, so he is gettin' up there as well. And he came right from High school, so his body has more wear and tear on it than others.

He averages 25 a game on only 36 minutes, so that tear isn't bad for his age.

Kobe's about a year behind Bron's pace, so he's not doing too bad even though he didn't get as many garbage buckets.

If he plays long enough I could see him being 3-1 easily on this list.

 

[Ed O]

He averages 25 a game on only 36 minutes, so that tear isn't bad for his age.

Kobe's about a year behind Bron's pace, so he's not doing too bad even though he didn't get as many garbage buckets.

Why do you think James gets more "garbage buckets"? I'm not saying he does not. I just don't know where you get that from.

LeBron has played for teams that tend to be very slow paced. I don't think that Kobe has had that handicap.

Ed O.

 

[Draco]

Well Kobe is in his 30s, so he is gettin' up there as well. And he came right from High school, so his body has more wear and tear on it than others.

Well of course nobody on the list is young... But Kobe is not old when comparing him to Shaq, AI, KG, Allen, Duncan.

 

[huevonkiller]

Why do you think James gets more "garbage buckets"? I'm not saying he does not. I just don't know where you get that from.

LeBron has played for teams that tend to be very slow paced. I don't think that Kobe has had that handicap.

Ed O.

LeBron uses much more shot clock per possession (usage rate is not a measure of that) than any other player in the NBA which circumnavigates the PER formula; Kobe doesn't have that handicap. People should become more familiar with the nuances of per before commenting on how efficiently one uses time.

James didn't have to earn starter's minutes from the beginning of his career. Kobe was coming off the bench for a deep backcourt on a winning team. Hence the somewhat low minutes for a star such as himself, had he averaged 38 minutes a game the record would probably be out of reach. Because you're not going to average 30+ a game with an in his prime Shaq, and Kobe draws more FTs without Shaq. Per is sacrificed along with any stat in that kind of winning situation.

 

[huevonkiller]

Well of course nobody on the list is young... But Kobe is not old when comparing him to Shaq, AI, KG, Allen, Duncan.

Yeah he wasn't terribly overused coming out of Highschool either. Then during his third season there was that NBA lockout thing. :]

 

[Ed O]

LeBron uses much more shot clock per possession (usage rate is not a measure of that) than any other player in the NBA, which circumnavigates the PER formula; Kobe doesn't have that handicap. The PER formula is hardly perfect, people should become more familiar with the nuances of it before commenting on how efficiently one uses time.

Because James didn't have to earn starter's minutes from the beginning of his career. Kobe was coming off the bench for a deep backcourt on a winning team. Hence the somewhat low minutes for a star such as himself, had he averaged 38 minutes a game the record would probably be out of reach.

Because you're not going to average 30+ a game with an in his prime Shaq, and Kobe draws more FTs without Shaq. Per is sacrificed along with any stat in that kind of winning situation.

I don't understand why any of that has to do with "garbage buckets".

Ed O.

 

[huevonkiller]

I don't understand why any of that has to do with "garbage buckets".

Ed O.

Then all hope is lost. :O

That's kind of a strict definition of the term, I use it nonchalantly.

 

[KingSpeed]

rookie Bron was wayyyyy better than rookie Kobe

 

[BenDavis503]

I thought garbage buckets were Carmello Anthonys thing. You know, up 30 with 3 minutes to go and he still tries to score and wont go out of the game.

 

[Foulzilla]

Then all hope is lost. :O

That's kind of a strict definition of the term, I use it nonchalantly.

I too don't get it. To me garbage buckets are the types of buckets picked up on broken plays or unplanned plays such as putbacks. You seem to be using an entirely different definition (which may be perfectly valid, I just don't know it), so I'm curious how you mean.

 

[huevonkiller]

I too don't get it. To me garbage buckets are the types of buckets picked up on broken plays or unplanned plays such as putbacks. You seem to be using an entirely different definition (which may be perfectly valid, I just don't know it), so I'm curious how you mean.

Yeah.

It is all in my previous post; an amusing term I use nonchalantly.

 

[MARIS61]

Bunch of ooooooooooooooooooooooooold guys on that least. Pts accumulated over great lengths of time.

Few of them will be playing 3 years from now.

 

[MARIS61]

Our bench will be awesome with Howard and Miller.

Although I've maintained all along that Miller will take Sergio's place ON THE BENCH, I see it as a very weak move with no upside. Howard will be a more positive move, as Channing never got it together.

Anyone who envisions Miller and Roy happily sharing the ball as starters is delusional.