Notice TPE officially expires

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Paul Allen: “Get Better!”

Dame /Napier
CJ / Pat
Harkless / ET
Aminu / Collins
Nurk / Davis

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Dame / Baldwin
CJ / Curry
Harkless / ET
Aminu / Collins
Nurk / Meyers

Is that really getting better? Yeah, we picked up some young bucks who look promising but realistically aren’t going to be role players for at least another season or two.

 

[Scalma]

So either that's a lie and Paul stopped Neil from making moves with the TPE that would've added to our asset group, or Neil couldn't figure out one single trade that could've made us better now or in the future.

Neither would surprise me but I’ll go with B.

 

[BonesJones]

Neither would surprise me but I’ll go with B.

If B is true, then Neil could help the backlash by not saying stuff like "We have very good, valuable advantages in our TPEs with a really aggressive owner that's not afraid to pay out money.".

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Here's a Neil quote:
So Paul's agressive, and wants to improve and use the TPE's. That says that money shouldn't be any obstacle, which is reaffirmed by Neil saying they view the TPE's as simple "room". States that the TPEs are "really good" and an "advantage" while outlining how they could use them to make the team better.

If that's not "implying they'll be used" to you, then I don't know what to tell you. No where did he say they may or may not be used, and he didn't say things in the manner of "We'll be able to put our TPEs into play and see what we can get for them". He never put emphasis on the possibility of them not being used, and put it all on how valuable and meaningful the TPEs are.

So the fact that they end up meaningless and worthless while we have dead money on the books as a result of matching Crabbe is a huge failure on Olshey's part, and he didn't help with his comments. He implied it'd be used.

The worse part? From matching Crabbe all we got was Nicholson stretched on our cap for multiple years and two sweeps!

 

[Scalma]

Neil is so fiery!

My favorite part is he didn’t forget to add his sig there at the end. Brand game strong.

 

[Scalma]

If B is true, then Neil could help the backlash by not saying stuff like "We have very good, valuable advantages in our TPEs with a really aggressive owner that's not afraid to pay out money.".

Yeah, shut the hell up, why lead the fans on for literally no reason??

 

[BonesJones]

I’m disappointed that he couldnt get ANY thing with it. There are a lot of players that make Minimum-13 Mil.

I don't want to hear the "We don't have a roster spot" excuse... We have Nik Stauskas on a minimum contract, who can be cut with a very small amount of dead money counting against our cap this year. Better yet, we should've never signed him.

You can't tell me the Magic aren't willing to part with Johnathan Simmons for a 2nd round pick and a $6M TPE. Even if they aren't, there's many similar deals out there that makes it hard to believe that there wouldn't be one single deal that would work out for both teams.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I don't want to hear the "We don't have a roster spot" excuse... We have Nik Stauskas on a minimum contract, who can be cut with a very small amount of dead money counting against our cap this year. Better yet, we should've never signed him.

You can't tell me the Magic aren't willing to part with Johnathan Simmons for a 2nd round pick and a $6M TPE. Even if they aren't, there's many similar deals out there that makes it hard to believe that there wouldn't be one single deal that would work out for both teams.

I feel like Stauskas is so redundant... what separates him from Layman at this point? Why have both?

Another thing that pisses me off is we didn’t address the glaring frontcourt hole that is the absense of Ed Davis... we could’ve used that TPE on Tyson Chandler who is expiring after the season anyway..

 

[Scalma]

I don't want to hear the "We don't have a roster spot" excuse... We have Nik Stauskas on a minimum contract, who can be cut with a very small amount of dead money counting against our cap this year. Better yet, we should've never signed him.

You can't tell me the Magic aren't willing to part with Johnathan Simmons for a 2nd round pick and a $6M TPE. Even if they aren't, there's many similar deals out there that makes it hard to believe that there wouldn't be one single deal that would work out for both teams.

No man, you don’t understand the modern landscape of the NBA. Read the CBA idiot.

 

[BonesJones]

Yeah, shut the hell up, why lead the fans on for literally no reason??

He has a level of annoyance with the fanbase because of their annoyance with him, but he's partly to blame, for stuff like that. You can't tout an asset as "valuable" and an "advantage" when it's only such if it's used, then not use it after giving every hint you were going to use it, and not expect to receive backlash.

 

[Hobbesarable]

NO is merely PA's mouthpiece. He's a yes-man through and through.

 

[BonesJones]

I feel like Stauskas is so redundant... what separates him from Layman at this point? Why have both?

We have two shooters off the bench in Curry and Trent. One's a combo guard that can play PG or SG, ones a wing that can play SG or SF, and then Layman, who has shooting potential, is another SF as well, with a multi-tooled PG in WBIV in there as well. We literally have those positions covered, player-wise and shooting-wise, so I don't understand why we'd have someone like Stauskas... It's overkill, and he's the worst of the bunch.

Jonathan Simmons is a unique player, of a certain mold that isn't present on this team. Even if he falls out of the rotation, is it not worth the small gamble and improved depth? I just don't understand... I'd love to have a conversation with Neil about it.

 

[Scalma]

We have two shooters off the bench in Curry and Trent. One's a combo guard that can play PG or SG, ones a wing that can play SG or SF, and then Layman, who has shooting potential, is another SF as well, with a multi-tooled PG in WBIV in there as well. We literally have those positions covered, player-wise and shooting-wise, so I don't understand why we'd have someone like Stauskas... It's overkill, and he's the worst of the bunch.

Jonathan Simmons is a unique player, of a certain mold that isn't present on this team. Even if he falls out of the rotation, is it not worth the small gamble and improved depth? I just don't understand... I'd love to have a conversation with Neil about it.

The only thing I’d use to defend Neil is Paul wouldn’t sign off on spending 20m+ on a jonathon Simmons. But that would only lead me to another question; if you don’t want to financially commit to this group, why don’t you blow it up? What the hell is the plan?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

We have two shooters off the bench in Curry and Trent. One's a combo guard that can play PG or SG, ones a wing that can play SG or SF, and then Layman, who has shooting potential, is another SF as well, with a multi-tooled PG in WBIV in there as well. We literally have those positions covered, player-wise and shooting-wise, so I don't understand why we'd have someone like Stauskas... It's overkill, and he's the worst of the bunch.

Jonathan Simmons is a unique player, of a certain mold that isn't present on this team. Even if he falls out of the rotation, is it not worth the small gamble and improved depth? I just don't understand... I'd love to have a conversation with Neil about it.

Roster construction isn’t Neil’s forte obviously. You can tell by the fact he has a hardon for undersized combo guards and long/skinny guys who can’t really shoot.

 

[Scalma]

Roster construction isn’t Neil’s forte obviously. You can tell by the fact he has a hardon for undersized combo guards and long/skinny guys who can’t really shoot.

When’s the last time we had a roster that you could’ve said was balanced? LAs last season? Made up of mainly guys Neil inherited?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You nerds and your imaginary cap space.

 

[BonesJones]

Roster construction isn’t Neil’s forte obviously. You can tell by the fact he has a hardon for undersized combo guards and long/skinny guys who can’t really shoot.

I think it's just a lack of creativity or a lack of negotiating... I'm not sure. We have to judge on results though, and if results were different, then our judgement would be different as well.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

When’s the last time we had a roster that you could’ve said was balanced? LAs last season? Made up of mainly guys Neil inherited?

Not even those teams were balanced because we had the worst benches in history back then.

I’d say our last truly balanced team would be 2010-11ish.

 

[julius]

I don't really care that they didn't use the TPE on a player that would put them further into cap issues, and wouldn't realistically make a lick of difference.

The biggest thing is they got out of Crabbes shitty contract. I'm happy.

If they traded Meyers for a bucket of cat litter, I'd be happy too.

 

[Strenuus]

I'm really sad about the lack of @Gronk Brady posts. This popcorn needs to be eaten.

 

[Scalma]

I'm really sad about the lack of @Gronk Brady posts. This popcorn needs to be eaten.

He’s got his drafts and timer set for 9:01.

 

[rumbletumble2]

He’s got his drafts and timer set for 9:01.

A man's gotta have a plan. Then again, not if you're Neil.

 

[Hobbesarable]

I'm really sad about the lack of @Gronk Brady posts. This popcorn needs to be eaten.

There was popcorn eating material earlier in the thread.

 

[Orion Bailey]

If you believed him, whose fault is that?

BNM

It's our fault for believing are GM would do something that he implied he would? Why should we expect nothing at of our GM, no matter what he says? That's kinda depressing.

I think you are missing a very important point. Out sending messages. Sometimes what he says isnt meant for the fans. Maybe he said “we have this big tpe to be agressive with” was for other teams?
Maybe he was aggressive with it at first but when the few potential “good move “ choices thst could help the roster now vanished, he backed off?

My point is just because a guy dows an interview doesnt mean he is talking to the fans and diesnt have alterior motives.

With that said, it would have been nice to see something early on for one of those few roster improving guys.

 

[HailBlazers]

I think you are missing a very important point. Our sending messages. Sometimes what he says isnt meant for the fans. Maybe he said “we have this big tpe to be agressive with” was for other teams?
Maybe he was aggressive with it at first but when the few potential “good move “ choices thst could help the roster now vanished, he backed off?

My point is just because a guy dows an interview doesnt mean he is talking to the fans and diesnt have alterior motives.

With that said, it would have been nice to see something early on for one of those few roster improving guys.

Bingo. Being a GM is a sales job. More often than not you loose a sale but you always got to keep an aggressive front.

 

[e_blazer]

Sniff...

 

[Scalma]

Bingo. Being a GM is a sales job. More often than not you loose a sale but you always got to keep an aggressive front.

What was Olshey selling between the start of the offseason and now?

 

[Phatguysrule]

We're not going to clear the mess until 2020 anyway, so why not add to the mess to gain assets that will be valuable past 2020? Lineup another bad contract with ET's and Meyers' and reap the reward when it's off the books. We won't lose anymore flexibility, since we don't have any to begin with. That's not he same as "We have a ton of flexibility, and we have to use it now", which was the theme of 2016. I think we could add future 2nds, including one in 2021, which looks like a super draft where a 2nd round pick would be the equivalent of a late 1st. If we had to take on Miles Plumlee or someone similar this summer to land Gary Trent Jr, I would've done it. I know it's up to Paul but it's a sound, logical strategy that would only be unpursuable based on Paul's pocketbook.

And literally the only reason I can think that we wouldn't do that is if Paul Allen said no. I'm sure Olshey, Stotts, Dame, and CJ would be all over that plan...

 

[BonesJones]

Bingo. Being a GM is a sales job. More often than not you loose a sale but you always got to keep an aggressive front.

No, being a GM is not a sales job at all. What is he "selling"?

 

[HailBlazers]

No, being a GM is not a sales job at all. What is he "selling"?

Of course it is. Your assets in return for others.