Trade Deadline: February 6, 2025

[wizenheimer]

We need a trade deadline thread. The path probably leads to disappointment but there is always hope for change. Hopefully a bigger change than last year when the deadline only netted Banton

trade deadline is Feb. 6

 

[wizenheimer]

dark clouds?

 

[RonBrewer]

I cannot imagine any scenario where we trade for Jimmy Butler. And if we did, i'd jump on the fire Cronin bus.

 

[illmatic99]

i can tell you right now, cronin will do nothing of significance.

and people on this forum will excuse it because they think he's still got no leverage while cleaning up olshey's mistakes.

 

[Phatguysrule]

i can tell you right now, cronin will do nothing of significance.

and people on this forum will excuse it because they think he's still got no leverage while cleaning up olshey's mistakes.

Only excuse he has now is Vulcan. Other than that, this is his baby. He already shipped out or re-signed all the Olshey mistakes.

We do have an incredible lack of talent thanks to Olshey, but we forgave the lopsided deals as a way to quickly boost the rebuild. And Cronin's vets have been in the way of us improving the talent.

So there can be no more excuses, IMO.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Anyone see the Zion Piece on B-Edge ?

Hell No to Zion even if it's Ayton in the trade cause your trading one lazy , unmotivated overpaid sack of crap for another that's injury prone on top of the other issues so NO -- Period

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Anyone see the Zion Piece on B-Edge ?

Hell No to Zion even if it's Ayton in the trade cause your trading one lazy , unmotivated overpaid sack of crap for another that's injury prone on top of the other issues so NO -- Period

what was the deal?

 

[andalusian]

Anyone see the Zion Piece on B-Edge ?

Hell No to Zion even if it's Ayton in the trade cause your trading one lazy , unmotivated overpaid sack of crap for another that's injury prone on top of the other issues so NO -- Period

A team like Portland needs to take chances on reclamation projects, ayton was one that didn't pan out and he is expiring in 18 months, so no problem as far as I am concerned.

Zion is a bigger risk/reward than DA, he can be a #1 on a championship team if all goes right, DA is at best a #3 on a championship roster.

The nice thing about Zion's contact is that there's an out for next year, so if all it takes is DA and some minor youngin it is well worth the risk IMHO.

I doubt NO will do that, they will likely want real pick assets that Portland will not want to give.

 

[RonBrewer]

Anyone see the Zion Piece on B-Edge ?

Hell No to Zion even if it's Ayton in the trade cause your trading one lazy , unmotivated overpaid sack of crap for another that's injury prone on top of the other issues so NO -- Period

Zion is the chance we need to take.

 

[handiman]

Zion would the ultimate stealth tank. No one would ever question us for not playing him, and the outgoing talent to acquire him would make us worse in the short-term.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Whatever -- some of you fans do not learn

Doomed to repeat history when you do not learn from the past.

 

[Hoopguru]

Id consider this if Atlanta would:
Ayton for
Capela & Okongwu
Capela for salary and ability to clear his.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I’d rather take a chance on Zion than Ben Simmons.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[bemac]

Obviously there's an easy answer to this whole process, just look at all the teams who make the perfect trades that return the exact results they imagined. It's almost like Portland is the only team in the league to struggle in building a championship contender.

 

[Chris Craig]

I’d rather take a chance on Zion than Ben Simmons.

Neither

 

[Phatguysrule]

Neither

 

[BigGameDamian]

Obviously there's an easy answer to this whole process, just look at all the teams who make the perfect trades that return the exact results they imagined. It's almost like Portland is the only team in the league to struggle in building a championship contender.

Perhaps we’re too focused on building out of the draft?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Perhaps we’re too focused on building out of the draft?

Aside from getting lucky that's our only viable option.

 

[RR7]

Aside from getting lucky that's our only viable option.

There's also the option of taking high risk swings on guys like Zion, who we wouldn't be able to afford if it didn't come with some risk. Or there's trading for young guys who maybe have another level of development to bank on, like Avdija.

 

[Phatguysrule]

There's also the option of taking high risk swings on guys like Zion, who we wouldn't be able to afford if it didn't come with some risk. Or there's trading for young guys who maybe have another level of development to bank on, like Avdija.

I honestly don't think we have enough assets to build out a "better-than-first-round-and-out" team with those kinds of moves.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Blazinaway]

what was the deal?

There's also the option of taking high risk swings on guys like Zion, who we wouldn't be able to afford if it didn't come with some risk. Or there's trading for young guys who maybe have another level of development to bank on, like Avdija.

I do not want Zion, but the one good thing is that his contract has lots of "outs" from the team's standpoint, so contract risk is a lot lower.

 

[kjironman1]

If the Blazers got him they would have no problem sitting him and improving their draft chances.

 

[RR7]

I honestly don't think we have enough assets to build out a "better-than-first-round-and-out" team with those kinds of moves.

Maybe not. Ideally, we get assets out of Ant, Grant and RW3. Then in theory, you turn around and can try to move those, along with at least 1 future 1st. Mainly, it hinges on internal development, and hopefully getting lucky in this draft.

 

[blazerkor]

There's also the option of taking high risk swings on guys like Zion, who we wouldn't be able to afford if it didn't come with some risk. Or there's trading for young guys who maybe have another level of development to bank on, like Avdija.

I honestly think given where we're at we need to do both. We need to get someone with more potential than anyone else on the roster in the draft and we should be willing to take a huge swing on a guy like Zion.

If we can get a FRP from a trade or trades of Ant, Jerami and/or Timelord then we should be willing to trade that pick, the worst of our 2029 FRPs and Ayton to the Pels for Zion. We should sit Zion for the rest of the season, trying to get him with the best expert opinions, then therapy and training to try and insure that he doesn't pull/strain upper leg muscles again.

A rotation of Scoot, Shaedon, Flagg or Bailey, Zion, Clingan, Deni, Tou, a new small ball C and a backup PG would be vying for the playoffs next season with a decade of time to age into the prime's of the rotation players and become a contender.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I honestly think given where we're at we need to do both. We need to get someone with more potential than anyone else on the roster in the draft and we should be willing to take a huge swing on a guy like Zion.

If we can get a FRP from a trade or trades of Ant, Jerami and/or Timelord then we should be willing to trade that pick, the worst of our 2029 FRPs and Ayton to the Pels for Zion. We should sit Zion for the rest of the season, trying to get him with the best expert opinions, then therapy and training to try and insure that he doesn't pull/strain upper leg muscles again.

A rotation of Scoot, Shaedon, Flagg or Bailey, Zion, Clingan, Deni, Tou, a new small ball C and a backup PG would be vying for the playoffs next season with a decade of time to age into the prime's of the rotation players and become a contender.

If we still had a leader like Dame I'd be good with taking a gamble on Zion. Seems like a recipe for disaster for this apparently leaderless team, in all honesty.

 

[blazerkor]

If we still had a leader like Dame I'd be good with taking a gamble on Zion. Seems like a recipe for disaster for this apparently leaderless team, in all honesty.

I just wonder if Zion needs a change. We do have a really highly educated training and fitness team. I also think if Chauncey is going to be around at least this season, he is the kind of guy who commands the respect of some players. I guess maybe it's an if Chauncey has a good relationship with Zion type of thing.

I just think nothing is as bad of a recipe for Zion as staying in the same place. If he could be convinced to take the rest of this season and the off season to rebuild his body in a sustainable way, so he could spend the next ten years taking care of himself and win a couple of MVPs then I think the guy is definitely worth the risk.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Chauncey commands respect? There are some who question if he’s lost the team and yet he is respected?

I don’t think he would command any respect from Zion.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I just wonder if Zion needs a change. We do have a really highly educated training and fitness team. I also think if Chauncey is going to be around at least this season, he is the kind of guy who commands the respect of some players. I guess maybe it's an if Chauncey has a good relationship with Zion type of thing.

I just think nothing is as bad of a recipe for Zion as staying in the same place. If he could be convinced to take the rest of this season and the off season to rebuild his body in a sustainable way, so he could spend the next ten years taking care of himself and win a couple of MVPs then I think the guy is definitely worth the risk.

Solid points. You may be right. They can have Grant, Ant, and RWill