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I’ve heard of Flip Murray. Not familiar with a Flip Lopez. Any relation with to Left Eye?
Flip might be a nickname for Felipe, but Felipe Lopez hasn't been in the NBA since 2002.
 
Let a team that was relevant not that long ago win the trade and both teams remain under the cap.

PTD trades Ayton, Grant, Simons
BRK trades Ben Simmons, Nic Claxton, Noah Clowney, Bogdanovic and draft capital

Brooklyn improves significantly. They win the trade.
Portlands wins by eliminating the contracts of Simmons and Bogie next season. 2 young, athletic bigs added. Claxton on a descending contract like Avdija. Draft capital returning is reasonable.

BIGS — Clingan, Claxton, Time Lord, Clownie, Reath
FORWARDS — Camara, Avdija, Murray, Walker
GUARDS — Scoot, Sharpe, Banton, Rupert, Thybulle

… with trades Thybulle (February trade, or summer opt-in and trade, or opts out) … Bogie traded if a contender wants him for the playoffs for different expiring contract(s) …
Brooklyn doesn’t want to win. They got their draft picks back.
 
Wolves need a guard. Simons destination?



Wolves are over the 2nd apron so they can't aggregate salaries or take on more salary than they send out

about the only trade that would work is Simons for Randle and Wolves wouldn't do that
 
The problem is that Ayton isn't bad. The problem is that Ayton is fucking lazy. Those are two different things.
I don't know if lazy is the right word. The dude obviously puts work in.

It's that he refuses to use his size, athleticism and skill the best ways possible. Yeah I would say that he runs from the grind of scoring on the block on one end and blocking shots down low on the other end but either he is a supernatural talent or he puts in work to be so athletic and skilled. He just doesn't do things he's obviously capable of to be the most effective.

It is fucking frustrating... that being said I'm hoping for the slim chance that some coach/GM duo think that they can get him to do those things he's capable of to be dominant and at least take him for neutral value.
 
Wolves are over the 2nd apron so they can't aggregate salaries or take on more salary than they send out

about the only trade that would work is Simons for Randle and Wolves wouldn't do that

Why? Because they don't want Simons or they want to keep Randle? I think they wanted out of Town's contract bad enough that they took Randle as a last result. But he does not seem like a good fit to me. I bet Randle opts out and goes elsewhere if they flounder in the playoffs. Simons might be a good replacement this year for DD. Long shot but possible.

But unless they give us a FRP....why would Portland do it?
 
Why? Because they don't want Simons or they want to keep Randle? I think they wanted out of Town's contract bad enough that they took Randle as a last result. But he does not seem like a good fit to me. I bet Randle opts out and goes elsewhere if they flounder in the playoffs. Simons might be a good replacement this year for DD. Long shot but possible.

But unless they give us a FRP....why would Portland do it?

I wasn't talking about whether or not each team would do the trade; I was just pointing at about the only trade that would work for Simons-->Minny with the CBA trade rules.
 
Why? Because they don't want Simons or they want to keep Randle? I think they wanted out of Town's contract bad enough that they took Randle as a last result. But he does not seem like a good fit to me. I bet Randle opts out and goes elsewhere if they flounder in the playoffs. Simons might be a good replacement this year for DD. Long shot but possible.

But unless they give us a FRP....why would Portland do it?
If they make the playoffs!
 
The problem is that Ayton isn't bad. The problem is that Ayton is fucking lazy. Those are two different things.

Yeah, not really lazy, but appears disinterested and that has the same effect.

I wonder, though, if playing with an emerging Scoot might change that. If he knows moving and working is going to get him dunks, maybe he's more motivated to move and play harder.
 
Ant Grant Ayton Timelord and Thybulle will all be traded by the deadline for 4 first round picks
 
Wolves are over the 2nd apron so they can't aggregate salaries or take on more salary than they send out

about the only trade that would work is Simons for Randle and Wolves wouldn't do that
Actually that's one Simons trade that the other team might be more keen on than the Blazers!
 
Ant Grant Ayton Timelord and Thybulle will all be traded by the deadline for 4 first round picks
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This is an idea I've had for decades, but there should be an "EXPENDABLES" NBA franchise, possibly without a permanent base, they hop around among states without NBA teams, that consists of all the players that other teams don't want but can't get rid of. Those teams still have to pay their salaries, but they no longer count against the cap (and this team has no salary cap).

Who would be the starters on the current version?
Jusuf Nurkic/DominAyton
Anfernee
Patrick Williams
Grant Williams

It's good for the players, because they actually get to play and showcase their wares so either their real team finds a trade for them or they can do a Westbrook when their way-too-large contract expires. But they're not stinking up the lockerrooms with bad attitudes or taking minutes away from younger guys who need to develop.
 
This is an idea I've had for decades, but there should be an "EXPENDABLES" NBA franchise, possibly without a permanent base, they hop around among states without NBA teams, that consists of all the players that other teams don't want but can't get rid of. Those teams still have to pay their salaries, but they no longer count against the cap (and this team has no salary cap).

Who would be the starters on the current version?
Jusuf Nurkic/DominAyton
Anfernee
Patrick Williams
Grant Williams

It's good for the players, because they actually get to play and showcase their wares so either their real team finds a trade for them or they can do a Westbrook when their way-too-large contract expires. But they're not stinking up the lockerrooms with bad attitudes or taking minutes away from younger guys who need to develop.
Bradley Beal and Butler. What happens when they win it all!
 
This is an idea I've had for decades, but there should be an "EXPENDABLES" NBA franchise, possibly without a permanent base, they hop around among states without NBA teams, that consists of all the players that other teams don't want but can't get rid of. Those teams still have to pay their salaries, but they no longer count against the cap (and this team has no salary cap).

Who would be the starters on the current version?
Jusuf Nurkic/DominAyton
Anfernee
Patrick Williams
Grant Williams

It's good for the players, because they actually get to play and showcase their wares so either their real team finds a trade for them or they can do a Westbrook when their way-too-large contract expires. But they're not stinking up the lockerrooms with bad attitudes or taking minutes away from younger guys who need to develop.
In the interest of making that team's appeal greater, they should hire Whitsitt as GM and either Mike Dunleavy or Paul Westhead as HC to make it "The Biggest Shit Show in the World".
 
In the interest of making that team's appeal greater, they should hire Whitsitt as GM and either Mike Dunleavy or Paul Westhead as HC to make it "The Biggest Shit Show in the World".
Is Westhead still alive?
 
SI.com had a trade idea of Ayton to the Pistons for Ron Holland II, Isaiah Stewart, and a 2025 second-round draft pick

not the worst idea but the Pistons are not that dumb anymore -- last year maybe but now that they brought in Langdon to head things that team is starting to show they have a direction ... unlike the Blazers but maybe Cronin can prove me wrong and trade a vet or two soon.

I will say it feels like Pistons get the shaft in this deal -- Blazers might have to add Rupert to the deal ( I would not ) but I think that would make it more fair
 
SI.com had a trade idea of Ayton to the Pistons for Ron Holland II, Isaiah Stewart, and a 2025 second-round draft pick

not the worst idea but the Pistons are not that dumb anymore -- last year maybe but now that they brought in Langdon to head things that team is starting to show they have a direction ... unlike the Blazers but maybe Cronin can prove me wrong and trade a vet or two soon.

I will say it feels like Pistons get the shaft in this deal -- Blazers might have to add Rupert to the deal ( I would not ) but I think that would make it more fair
They just took Holland in the lottery. That's beyond awful for Detroit. I mean, shit, Stewart alone is better than Ayton. There's no way they entertain that. Rupert aint closing the gap.
 
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