Trade Deadline Predictions

[BonesJones]

Problem with this is it would put the wizards into luxury tax. Oubre is also worth a lot more than Napier imo. Napier would have the same role in Washington as he does in Portland.

Would you do a first and Evan for mahinmi and oubre? I probably would. Oubre is basically what we’d be praying for in the draft.

Then trade Davis and Napier wherever and get under the tax. Maybe get a first back for Napier.

His idea is more plausible. They'd downgrade 2 rotation spots in your idea.

They need to add depth pieces. Leonard is probably a better fit for them than Mahinmi, and while Turners a downgrade from Oubre, Napier is much better than any other guard they have and their more suited to run 3 guard lineups with Bazz, Wall, and Beal than we are.

 

[AFully22]

I’m sticking to my initial prediction of Napier, Harkless, Swanigan and a 2nd for Hood and Rubio. Then I could see Olshey trying to move Vonleh and/or Davis for picks.

 

[dviss1]

Everybody that wants to trade Davis can meet me at Mt. Tabor!!

 

[Sarni]

I’m sticking to my initial prediction of Napier, Harkless, Swanigan and a 2nd for Hood and Rubio. Then I could see Olshey trying to move Vonleh and/or Davis for picks.

I think we will move for Hood and we will include Napier in the package. Not sure what will be the extras, if any. I think Napier's and Hood's value might even be similar right now.

Utah will get Mirotic in exchange for something, I don't know what possibly they could offer - maybe a 2020 pick? I don't know. Chicago might want Burks.

Won't be surprised to see Harkless dealt to the Knicks for Lee.

 

[BrunoSOC]

A lot of things can happen. I hope shabazz stays.

 

[illmatic99]

I think we will move for Hood and we will include Napier in the package. Not sure what will be the extras, if any. I think Napier's and Hood's value might even be similar right now.

Utah will get Mirotic in exchange for something, I don't know what possibly they could offer - maybe a 2020 pick? I don't know. Chicago might want Burks.

Won't be surprised to see Harkless dealt to the Knicks for Lee.

Thing you're on the right track. Getting Hood and Lee for some combo of Napier/Harkless/extras is pretty good. And I'd keep my eye out on the waivers for a third string PG.

Dame/CJ/Hood/Aminu/Nurk

Bench: Pat/Lee/ET/Collins/Ed

 

[illmatic99]

Is there anyway that we can get a second round pick for Meyers? I loathe the idea of giving up assets to undo our own stupid mistakes.

 

[Scalma]

Thing you're on the right track. Getting Hood and Lee for some combo of Napier/Harkless/extras is pretty good. And I'd keep my eye out on the waivers for a third string PG.

Dame/CJ/Hood/Aminu/Nurk

Bench: Pat/Lee/ET/Collins/Ed

No need, he’s already on the roster

 

[illmatic99]

No need, he’s already on the roster

BTW, Wade Baldwin has some um interesting likes on IG. Typical 21 yr old I suppose.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Has this been posted? couldn't access the full article.

"This is the year Portland will break up the potent backcourt of Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum: The Blazers don’t want to trade either one, especially when they awoke Wednesday ranked seventh in the league in defensive efficiency despite the annual external skepticism about the pairing’s capabilities at that end of the floor. But the easiest path to balancing the roster is by parting with one of their two guards — most likely McCollum — for a package headlined by a frontcourt player on their level. No one’s suggesting it’ll happen before the Feb. 8 trade deadline, but Portland’s latest so-so season threatens to be the impetus that finally pushes the longtime Blazers owner Paul Allen in a new direction."
– via New York Times

 

[Scalma]

Has this been posted? couldn't access the full article.

"This is the year Portland will break up the potent backcourt of Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum: The Blazers don’t want to trade either one, especially when they awoke Wednesday ranked seventh in the league in defensive efficiency despite the annual external skepticism about the pairing’s capabilities at that end of the floor. But the easiest path to balancing the roster is by parting with one of their two guards — most likely McCollum — for a package headlined by a frontcourt player on their level. No one’s suggesting it’ll happen before the Feb. 8 trade deadline, but Portland’s latest so-so season threatens to be the impetus that finally pushes the longtime Blazers owner Paul Allen in a new direction."
– via New York Times

Is that Marc stein? Is that a prediction or actual reporting?

I’ll believe it when I see it, but if CJ gets put on the block, Orlando would be my target. A package centered around either Gordon or Isaac.

 

[illmatic99]

That absolutely is NOT the easiest way to balance the roster.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Is that Marc stein? Is that a prediction or actual reporting?

I’ll believe it when I see it, but if CJ gets put on the block, Orlando would be my target. A package centered around either Gordon or Isaac.

Yeh, it is. First sentence sounds like reporting, but as I read more seems to be a prediction.

 

[Scalma]

Yeh, it is. First sentence sounds like reporting, but as I read more seems to be a prediction.

Oh ok. Well this is the same guy that said we’d be the most active team at last years deadline lol.

 

[BrunoSOC]

Is there anyway that we can get a second round pick for Meyers? I loathe the idea of giving up assets to undo our own stupid mistakes.

no way

 

[Scalma]

Is there anyway that we can get a second round pick for Meyers? I loathe the idea of giving up assets to undo our own stupid mistakes.

Idk about that, but I do think we can get someone to take on a portion of his contract.

 

[tlongII]

I predict pain.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Everybody that wants to trade Davis can meet me at Mt. Tabor!!

 

[dviss1]

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Why is everyone so up on Cedi? I haven't seen much from him. I've watched Crowder a bit this season and don't really like his game. Numbers don't tell the whole story and his Defense is overrated.

 

[Scalma]

Why is everyone so up on Cedi? I haven't seen much from him. I've watched Crowder a bit this season and don't really like his game. Numbers don't tell the whole story and his Defense is overrated.

The thing about crowder that gave me some pause in the summer when there was talk about him, was his outside shooting. He's really only had one above average season shooting it from there. Well, this year he's at 30%. So how much of an upgrade would he really be over Aminu?

 

[BBert]

Trade is coming

I think you mean: "Deal coming soon".
(Sorry, old inside joke )

 

[BBert]

There will be no trade.

No deal coming soon

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Why is everyone so up on Cedi? I haven't seen much from him. I've watched Crowder a bit this season and don't really like his game. Numbers don't tell the whole story and his Defense is overrated.

The thing about crowder that gave me some pause in the summer when there was talk about him, was his outside shooting. He's really only had one above average season shooting it from there. Well, this year he's at 30%. So how much of an upgrade would he really be over Aminu?

Actually, I'm not really all that high on either, but I'd like to get some wing talent in exchange for our expiring deals. Although I think that Crowder would perform with Dame/CJ similarly to how he performed with IT, so I think that if he were to return to his Celtics form, he'd be a pretty good 3 for us. And he would be an upgrade over Aminu only in the sense that Stotts would probably actually play him at SF, which he refuses to do with Chief. As for Cedi--he's a rookie, so he'd basically be a lottery ticket, and I just threw him in to make the salaries work. Zizic would work in that deal too, but I figured I'd go for a wing instead of a big.

No matter really--I'm just having fun with the trade machine. Although I think that that deal does actually make sense for all three teams.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The thing about crowder that gave me some pause in the summer when there was talk about him, was his outside shooting. He's really only had one above average season shooting it from there. Well, this year he's at 30%. So how much of an upgrade would he really be over Aminu?

Of course, if we did get Crowder, Stotts would just force him to play out of position at PF - just like he does Aminu. So, I don't see how this trade addresses our needs at SF.

BNM

 

[JDC]

Of course, if we did get Crowder, Stotts would just force him to play out of position at PF - just like he does Aminu. So, I don't see how this trade addresses our needs at SF.

BNM

Aminu's only redeeming skill offensively is 3pt shooting which becomes more valuable at the 4 because A) It becomes a rarer skill and B) The space it provides the rest of the offense.

His decision making on closeouts, complete lack of a pull up game, his long/slow release release and strictly stationary spot shooting don't cleanly translate to the sf position either. He's also an adequate rebounder and interior defender, and would argue that he's overrated as a perimeter defender. Playing with Dame and CJ and 2 traditional bigs also negates any sort of switchability on defense.

If we had a dynamic and efficient option at the 4 (like he had with Dirk in Dallas) it might make more sense, but we don't so we are left with either being borderline top 10 offensively and below average defensively w/ him at the 4 or below average offensively and borderline top 10 defensively with him at the 3.

Long story short, there is no configuration with the current roster that makes us borderline top 10 on both ends.

 

[BigGameDamian]

There will be no trade.

Let me guess...Your falling in love with this team?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Let me guess...Your falling in love with this team?

Time for a reboot.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Boob-No-More]

Aminu's only redeeming skill offensively is 3pt shooting which becomes more valuable at the 4 because A) It becomes a rarer skill and B) The space it provides the rest of the offense.

His decision making on closeouts, complete lack of a pull up game, his long/slow release release and strictly stationary spot shooting don't cleanly translate to the sf position either. He's also an adequate rebounder and interior defender, and would argue that he's overrated as a perimeter defender. Playing with Dame and CJ and 2 traditional bigs also negates any sort of switchability on defense.

If we had a dynamic and efficient option at the 4 (like he had with Dirk in Dallas) it might make more sense, but we don't so we are left with either being borderline top 10 offensively and below average defensively w/ him at the 4 or below average offensively and borderline top 10 defensively with him at the 3.

Long story short, there is no configuration with the current roster that makes us borderline top 10 on both ends.

I take a simpler approach.

We have other viable options at PF, but Aminu is clearly better than anyone we're playing at SF.

For example starting Vonleh at the 4 and Aminu at the 3 actually improves our defense and our rebounding without really hurting our offense. Chief can still be the guy who spreads the floor (Turner doesn't provide any spacing and kills ball movement) and Vonleh and Nurk play well next to each other.

We still need an upgrade at the 3, but I'd like to at least see us try a staring line up of:

PG - Dame
SG - C.J.
SF - Aminu
PF - Vonleh (or Collins)
C - Nurk

The perfect time to try it would have been against NOP with Turner out. Instead, Stotts went ultrasmall against the best frontcourt in the league. We saw the results. Yeah, Davis is a tough cover for anyone, but Chief didn't really stand a chance. Vonleh at the 4 with Chief at the 3 would have been a better match up.

BNM

 

[Labinot41]

Can someone tell me whats the net Rating when Lillard, CJ and Napier are on the court together please?