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Valuing Crowder as a three-and-D wing is like valuing Harkless as a three-and-D wing. He's really only been good in that role last year. This year, his three point percentages have tanked back to previous (poor) levels and even his defense has been nothing special. I wouldn't consider Crowder much a trade chip for Cleveland or a great target for Portland.
 
trading Davis would be a HUGE mistake. If management wants to build a winning team without paying for it...... then they are living in a dream world. Davis makes stuff happen on the floor. He is ONE OF the most valuable pieces coming off the bench that the Blazers have IMO.
Vonleh needs to play more. He is good but too far down the list with Davis and Collins and Aminu ahead of him to get in the game much. Sadly, he is probably tradable.
Turner is growing on me cuz when he does that turnaround jumper.... it mostly goes in. Still, he is just on the edge of the trade offerings in my book too.
Trade Leonard.
Trade Mo.
Keep the rest as it looks to me like they are just starting to find the chemistry and having some fun ballin.

And for heavens sake DON"T TAKE ON SOME GUY WITH A HUGE CONTRACT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE !!!
 
The guy we vastly overpay and who can only shoot contested turnaround fadeaway midrange shots is growing on you ?
 
Yeah I am not too keen on Crowder anymore either. He wasn't good before Boston and he hasn't been good since Boston either. Stevens got the best out of him but I am not sure Stotts would.

I would much prefer getting Cleveland's pick and an expiring contract to match salaries (we can't get cap relief from Cavs). Though I reckon that in the end Cavs will get someone else, most likely strike a deal with the Clippers to take DeAndre, or get Favors from Jazz.
 
I wonder what happens with Charlotte players. Nobody will offer anything for Howard and Batum for sure, those are very bad deals. Maybe a team like Milwaukee will offer their bad deals to take Howard but even then I doubt it.

Kemba will be interesting for many teams. I think the best fit for him would be Pelicans who would be able to play their three guard, two big men lineup more efficiently with Kemba, Jrue and Moore but they don't really have that great assets to send back and would need to send back Solomon Hill to match salaries which is terrible enough for Charlotte. New York sound like a good destination, could send back Thomas and Ntilikina which would be good deal for Hornets who would get younger with Frank and could reboot. Utah would be a good destination but they won't send their pick for sure, it can be top 10 at this rate.
 
This is my ‘fuck it’ trade scenario. It’s improbable but I could make an argument why it helps all teams involved.

CJ +2019 1st rd pick for Middleton and Parker.
Napier, Harkless, Swanigan and 2018 2nd rd pick for Rubio and Hood.

Dame/Rubio/1st rd pick
Middleton/Turner
Hood/Aminu
Parker/Collins/Vonleh (?)
Nurkic/Davis

Tons of rotation possibilities, switchable 2-4, some added youth and a much more balanced roster. Again, improbable but a fun idea.
 
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It doesn't help Bucks much IMO. Middleton is a better fit for them than CJ and a more versatile player (not to mention a good defender) and 2019 first won't get them a better player than Jabari.

Utah will want to get rid of wings, not add them although letting Rubio leave might be an incentive, he has not been good.
 
Sarni said:
It doesn't help Bucks much IMO. Middleton is a better fit for them than CJ and a more versatile player (not to mention a good defender) and 2019 first won't get them a better player than Jabari.

Utah will want to get rid of wings, not add them although letting Rubio leave might be an incentive, he has not been good.
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Milwaukee needs scoring (although I think it’s mostly Kidd that is the problem) and I think CJ is the better pure scorer. I don’t think Milwaukee has any desire to sign Jabari to a contract this summer so getting a 1st for him is a good way to get out of that. We could also add Aminu in this deal.

Utah needs a PG and if they strike out on Kemba then Napier might be their best option, he’s every bit as good as Hood IMO. This package for them is essentially a way to get rid of some guys they dont want to pay with no real future on the roster while adding some building blocks for a rebuild. Napier, Mitchell, Gobert and some picks is a good starting point for them. Taking back Rubio is a big favor, he’s been really bad, and Hood is a RFA who has been up and down and seemingly unhappy.
 
Optimistic Bob said:
trading Davis would be a HUGE mistake. If management wants to build a winning team without paying for it...... then they are living in a dream world. Davis makes stuff happen on the floor. He is ONE OF the most valuable pieces coming off the bench that the Blazers have IMO.
Vonleh needs to play more. He is good but too far down the list with Davis and Collins and Aminu ahead of him to get in the game much. Sadly, he is probably tradable.
Turner is growing on me cuz when he does that turnaround jumper.... it mostly goes in. Still, he is just on the edge of the trade offerings in my book too.
Trade Leonard.
Trade Mo.
Keep the rest as it looks to me like they are just starting to find the chemistry and having some fun ballin.

And for heavens sake DON"T TAKE ON SOME GUY WITH A HUGE CONTRACT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE !!!
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In other words you just want to trade our junk and get something good out of it?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7vvohpx
 
SIeepwalker said:
The guy we vastly overpay and who can only shoot contested turnaround fadeaway midrange shots is growing on you ?
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Yea. I can't do anything about the stupid contract he landed. Water under the bridge. But when he goes into that move he knows/believes he is going to make the shot, and he mostly does.
I don't get that sense from anyone else except for Napier. I like the confidence.
 
AFully22 said:
Milwaukee needs scoring (although I think it’s mostly Kidd that is the problem) and I think CJ is the better pure scorer. I don’t think Milwaukee has any desire to sign Jabari to a contract this summer so getting a 1st for him is a good way to get out of that. We could also add Aminu in this deal.

Utah needs a PG and if they strike out on Kemba then Napier might be their best option, he’s every bit as good as Hood IMO. This package for them is essentially a way to get rid of some guys they dont want to pay with no real future on the roster while adding some building blocks for a rebuild. Napier, Mitchell, Gobert and some picks is a good starting point for them. Taking back Rubio is a big favor, he’s been really bad, and Hood is a RFA who has been up and down and seemingly unhappy.
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Yes I have been proposing the Hood deal myself, I just don't think all the other elements in that deal are necessary. We can get him by sending Napier and maybe a second (Hood's value is IMO higher). Harkless for Rubio in that deal is needless, as is Swanigan.

Utah could get better deals though. I won't be surprised if they do something like Hood, Rubio and change for Walker and Lamb. They are also looking to trade Favors so maybe they will even package them both to get someone better, sometimes it is hard to figure out what deals are realistic though.
 
Sarni said:
Yes I have been proposing the Hood deal myself, I just don't think all the other elements in that deal are necessary. We can get him by sending Napier and maybe a second (Hood's value is IMO higher). Harkless for Rubio in that deal is needless, as is Swanigan.

Utah could get better deals though. I won't be surprised if they do something like Hood, Rubio and change for Walker and Lamb. They are also looking to trade Favors so maybe they will even package them both to get someone better, sometimes it is hard to figure out what deals are realistic though.
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hood didn't play tonight against clipps, nothing in injury report
 
tester551 said:
Why would Dallas do that?
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Apparently interested in Leonard, they're rebuilding, would get two other young pieces who have shown promise in Harkless and Vonleh for old expiring veterans.
 
honkicracker said:
One of the worst trade offers anyone on s2 has ever come up with.
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And yet, I think @jlprk would approve that trade. He wanted to be a Jazz fan, but couldn't commit. This trade gets us 4 of their 7 top players. Problem solved!

But mostly, I think he just likes to call Joe Ingles by the nickname he gave him: Jingles. This trade would give him the opportunity to type Jingles on a regular basis.

BNM
 
BonesJones said:
Apparently interested in Leonard, they're rebuilding, would get two other young pieces who have shown promise in Harkless and Vonleh for old expiring veterans.
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I can’t see Dallas, or any other team, taking on Leonard and Harkless’ remaining $40m or whatever combined when they could sign someone like Hezonja for less in free agency. Olshey should get a statue if that happened.
 
riverman said:
Wes played the best game I've seen him play last night as a Maverick....I think the cheers in Portland gave him a lot of energy
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Matthews’ numbers this season pretty much fall in line with the rest of his career. He’s shooting over 38% from outside on over 6 attempts a game. You’ve hinted at a regression this year but the numbers don’t really back it up. I just don’t see how he wouldn’t help us.
 
Scalma said:
Matthews’ numbers this season pretty much fall in line with the rest of his career. He’s shooting over 38% from outside on over 6 attempts a game. You’ve hinted at a regression this year but the numbers don’t really back it up. I just don’t see how he wouldn’t help us.
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I was a huge fan of his....after watching him play multiple games without scoring more than a few points I've changed that tune....don't know his stats but he's not playing very well most games ....I watch former Blazers when I get a chance...Nico...same thing
 
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