Trade Deadline Predictions

[Lukee]

Ofc it makes us better. But I don't see logic with Cavs roster then. They would have Tristan and Ed, same type of players. Than lineup with IT and C.J would be disaster at defense.

C.J and Mo for Bradley and Harris makes sense.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Ofc it makes us better. But I don't see logic with Cavs roster then. They would have Tristan and Ed, same type of players. Than lineup with IT and C.J would be disaster at defense.

C.J and Mo for Bradley and Harris makes sense.

My fear with Harris is he's a classic tweener. Is he an undersized PF, or an oversized SF? Both, actually. He's a good scorer, but not much else. That's why he's on the trading block for the third time in his career at only 25.

My real concern is how would Stotts use him. He's a better scorer than Aminu, but a worse rebounder and worse defender. You don't really want either one of them handling the ball. They seem redundant. Stotts refuses to play Aminu at the 3. Why would he play Harris there?

BNM

 

[Sarni]

Does this make us better?

POR out: CJ, Ed, Collins
POR in: Middleton, Love

CLE out: Love, Frye, Osman, 2018 1st rounder (their own)
CLE in: CJ, Ed

MIL out: Middleton
MIN in: Collins, Frye, Osman, CLE 2018 1st rounder

We throw Pat in at starting SG, have a legit SF and PF now, move Aminu to the bench, bring Harkless back into rotation and let Napier run for 25-30 mpg. We go all in with that roster but that's easily a consistent 50 win team with the core of Dame/Mid/Love/Nurk.

Why would the Bucks give up a very good player in exchange for a struggling rookie and a late first?

 

[Scalma]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ento-kings-working-deal-involving-george-hill
Sacramento has to clear a roster spot to take on one or two additional players in a deal with Cleveland and has been discussing deals for young forwards Malachi Richardson and Skal Labissiere to clear roster spots, league sources said.
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Richardson could be worth a flier. Actually so could Skal.

 

[Sarni]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ento-kings-working-deal-involving-george-hill
Sacramento has to clear a roster spot to take on one or two additional players in a deal with Cleveland and has been discussing deals for young forwards Malachi Richardson and Skal Labissiere to clear roster spots, league sources said.
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Richardson could be worth a flier. Actually so could Skal.

Kings are so pointless. They are in rebuilding mode but willing to trade two very young players 18 months into their NBA career just so they can take more of useless dross from Cavs.

 

[Scalma]

Kings are so pointless. They are in rebuilding mode but willing to trade two very young players 18 months into their NBA career just so they can take more of useless dross from Cavs.

We should take advantage

 

[Sarni]

We should take advantage

I would happily take both of them here for free. You can't really go wrong with two cheap young players for rotation, maybe one of them will develop into a solid 20-25 mpg player. Richardson is a good shooter and Labissiere has decent all around offensive game and rebounding from what I remember.

Apparently they will trade Koufos though. Makes much more sense. I also feel they only reached for Hill in free agency to trade him as soon as they can and obtain some assets, though the assets they will get from Cavs will be a very late first round pick that they will sell in 1-2 years for nothing anyway and a couple of truly terrible players, perhaps one of them on a contract longer than you'd like. They will take Shumpert who is owed $10M this season and has a player option for $11M in 2019 which he has to take because he is worth maybe $3M in open market ($19M at 2016 prices).

 

[BonesJones]

Getting a "tweener" forward is fine when you have another "tweener" forward who can defend both positions well.

If you start Harris and Aminu together, Aminu would guard the best forward, with Harris guarding the worse. Harris isn't a horrible defender, so it'd work fine. Offensively, they'd both function well with everyone else on the floor.

Therefore, worrying about getting a "tweener" forward isn't a problem. We should actually be looking for a tweener forward.

 

[BonesJones]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ento-kings-working-deal-involving-george-hill
Sacramento has to clear a roster spot to take on one or two additional players in a deal with Cleveland and has been discussing deals for young forwards Malachi Richardson and Skal Labissiere to clear roster spots, league sources said.
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Richardson could be worth a flier. Actually so could Skal.

I would love Skal Labissiere. He's as good as Vonleh with more upside. I could see that dude being a top PF off the bench in a couple years. 21 years old still, and putting up Per 36 Numbers of 17ppg and 9rpg. He has the ability to shoot from 3pt and is still putting on the weight he needs.

I'd try and trade Vonleh so we don't have to pay him this summer and then try and replace him with Skal who has two more years until he gets paid.

 

[BonesJones]

I would happily take both of them here for free. You can't really go wrong with two cheap young players for rotation, maybe one of them will develop into a solid 20-25 mpg player. Richardson is a good shooter and Labissiere has decent all around offensive game and rebounding from what I remember.

Apparently they will trade Koufos though. Makes much more sense. I also feel they only reached for Hill in free agency to trade him as soon as they can and obtain some assets, though the assets they will get from Cavs will be a very late first round pick that they will sell in 1-2 years for nothing anyway and a couple of truly terrible players, perhaps one of them on a contract longer than you'd like. They will take Shumpert who is owed $10M this season and has a player option for $11M in 2019 which he has to take because he is worth maybe $3M in open market ($19M at 2016 prices).

This is actually a very smart move by Sacremento. Using cap space to get a 1st round pick, and doing it in the way where they don't take on a bunch of future salary.

If we were to trade Aminu, Cleveland would be the place to do it. They need a legit PF off the bench (Crowder at 6'6 is struggling as their "small ball 4"). They also need defense. And a shooter is always good next to LeBron.

They've also value Davis a lot. I'd be trying to swindle them into swapping that BKN pick for ours. Something like Davis, Aminu, and MIN/LALs 2nd for Shumpert and the right to swap with the BKN Pick (Top __? protected).

What do you guys think that pick would need to be protected to get CLE to accept? Ex. if it's top 5 protected, then if the BKN pick is top 5 they get to keep it and we can't swap.

While it could turn out with us giving up Davis and Aminu for essentially nothing, the reward would be greater than the risk if we could move up from something like 17 to 8 or 9. IDK. Just being creative here. We need some creativity at the deadline.

 

[BonesJones]

My real concern is how would Stotts use him. He's a better scorer than Aminu, but a worse rebounder and worse defender. You don't really want either one of them handling the ball. They seem redundant. Stotts refuses to play Aminu at the 3. Why would he play Harris there?

BNM

You don't need either to handle the ball. Usually you'd have two ball handlers on the court with them (and Harris isn't a bad ball handler like Aminu, and could be the 3rd ball handler).

They're not at all redundant. Harris has more perimeter skills than Aminu or Harkless, and he played Aminu at the 3 and has played Harkless at the 3. Just because he likes Aminu at the 4 doesn't mean he wouldn't play Harris and Aminu together.

 

[BonesJones]

Layman and our 2019 2nd for Skal.

They cut Layman, get something for Skal.

We then trade Vonleh at the deadline and Skal becomes our new, exciting young PF, as well as cut our losses with Layman.

 

[BonesJones]

Ofc it makes us better. But I don't see logic with Cavs roster then. They would have Tristan and Ed, same type of players. Than lineup with IT and C.J would be disaster at defense.

C.J and Mo for Bradley and Harris makes sense.

Davis and Thompson would never play together, and CLE needs defense, so why wouldn't they want Davis? That would give them a good defensive/offensive rebounding C for 48 minutes of the game.

I think they'd greatly value Aminu (more than Ed). Like, value him more than any of us can imagine.

Why?
- They need defense
- They need a backup PF (they've been using Crowder (6'6) at PF)
- They would value his 40% 3pt shooting
- The switchability between the 4 man group Crowder/Lebron/Aminu/Green is top notch. Aminu is the only PF of the group, though. Guarding GSW requires switching screens and you could have 3 of those 4 on the court at the same time. Thompson is also a solid perimeter defender so having him at C would bring even more switchability.

 

[42N8Bounce]

I haven't read thru all of the rumored/proposed trades on here, so I apologize if this or something similar has already been proposed.

Blazers trade:
- Leonard
- Davis
- 1st rnd pick

Bulls trade:
- Mirotic

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd9rfyv7

Another version of this is to have the Blazers trading Leonard, Napier, Vonleh and a 1st rnd pick.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaquezgl

Both of these trades save the Blazers just enough to get them under the lux tax.

It hurts to lose that 1st round pick, but the Blazers are the second youngest team in the NBA. They need to start consolidating talent and acquiring players in their prime. Mirotic is only 26 years old. His contract has a team option for next year. He gives the Blazers that 3rd reliable scoring option they desperately need.

Get 'er done Olshey!

 

[BonesJones]

I haven't read thru all of the rumored/proposed trades on here, so I apologize if this or something similar has already been proposed.

Blazers trade:
- Leonard
- Davis
- 1st rnd pick

Bulls trade:
- Mirotic

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd9rfyv7

Another version of this is to have the Blazers trading Leonard, Napier, Vonleh and a 1st rnd pick.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaquezgl

Both of these trades save the Blazers just enough to get them under the lux tax.

It hurts to lose that 1st round pick, but the Blazers are the second youngest team in the NBA. They need to start consolidating talent and acquiring players in their prime. Mirotic is only 26 years old. His contract has a team option for next year. He gives the Blazers that 3rd reliable scoring option they desperately need.

Get 'er done Olshey!

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Don't trade Davis and a first in that package. Id try this:

BOS or CLE Gets: Davis, 2019 MIN/LAL 2nd, 2021 POR 2nd
CHI Gets: Leonard, 2018 BOS or CLE 1st
POR Gets: Mirotic

 

[Scalma]

I would love Skal Labissiere. He's as good as Vonleh with more upside. I could see that dude being a top PF off the bench in a couple years. 21 years old still, and putting up Per 36 Numbers of 17ppg and 9rpg. He has the ability to shoot from 3pt and is still putting on the weight he needs.

I'd try and trade Vonleh so we don't have to pay him this summer and then try and replace him with Skal who has two more years until he gets paid.

Wow a proposal I agree with.

We should add a second and get Richardson as well. Why not

 

[LayneStaley]

Davis/Turner/1st Rounder For Love

Napier/Vonleh/Leonard/2nd Rounder For Hood/Rubio

Both Trades Work(for us)

Nurk/Collins
Love/Amino
Hood/Hark
CJ/Pat
Dame/Rubio

If it doesn’t work out send CJ and Love to SAS for Leonard and filler in offseason.

 

[BonesJones]

Davis/Turner/1st Rounder For Love

Napier/Vonleh/Leonard/2nd Rounder For Hood/Rubio

Both Trades Work(for us)

Nurk/Collins
Love/Amino
Hood/Hark
CJ/Pat
Dame/Rubio

If it doesn’t work out send CJ and Love to SAS for Leonard and filler in offseason.

Leonard, Davis, and a pick isn't landing Love and Love + CJ isn't getting is Kawhi AND filler.

 

[BonesJones]

Wow a proposal I agree with.

We should add a second and get Richardson as well. Why not

You've seen the light.

Guess youre delusional now too.

I tink they're only trying to trade one of them.

 

[Sarni]

You've seen the light.

Guess youre delusional now too.

I tink they're only trying to trade one of them.

They need to cut players so if they take a player back, they must let both of them leave.

 

[LayneStaley]

Leonard, Davis, and a pick isn't landing Love and Love + CJ isn't getting is Kawhi AND filler.

I agree but my trade was turner/Davis/and a 1st

I think it depends on how much Love has fallen out of favor. No one thought Boogie would net basically nothing for the kings last year either. Maybe turner and Davis could help with that pathetic CLE defense...i know IT and crowder like playing with turner.

 

[Scalma]

They need to cut players so if they take a player back, they must let both of them leave.

Well he did mention they could just cut Layman.

But we could also theoretically trade for either one of them without sending any player back, no? We still have a TPE. don’t think we’d use it on guys on their rookie contracts, just throwing it out there.

 

[Denny Crane]

Cavs are desperate. but I think they're only willing to part with Love if they get back a guy that starts for them and is a huge contributor.

CJ might get it done, but I'm not seeing it makes us enough better, if at all.

 

[BonesJones]

I agree but my trade was turner/Davis/and a 1st

I think it depends on how much Love has fallen out of favor. No one thought Boogie would net basically nothing for the kings last year either. Maybe turner and Davis could help with that pathetic CLE defense...i know IT and crowder like playing with turner.

Boogie got the 10th pick, Hield, and Tyreke Evans.m, which is much better than Davis, Turner, and the 20th pick. That's not happening.

 

[BonesJones]

They need to cut players so if they take a player back, they must let both of them leave.

Uhh, they receive two players, send one out, why would they need to cut two?

 

[dviss1]

I'd do our first round pick for Hood. Either him or Oubre, same thing.

I'd LOVE Oubre.

 

[dviss1]

Milwaukee needs scoring (although I think it’s mostly Kidd that is the problem) and I think CJ is the better pure scorer. I don’t think Milwaukee has any desire to sign Jabari to a contract this summer so getting a 1st for him is a good way to get out of that. We could also add Aminu in this deal.

Utah needs a PG and if they strike out on Kemba then Napier might be their best option, he’s every bit as good as Hood IMO. This package for them is essentially a way to get rid of some guys they dont want to pay with no real future on the roster while adding some building blocks for a rebuild. Napier, Mitchell, Gobert and some picks is a good starting point for them. Taking back Rubio is a big favor, he’s been really bad, and Hood is a RFA who has been up and down and seemingly unhappy.

Holy crap. This is actually a good post.

 

[Scalma]

Layman and our 2019 2nd for Skal.

They cut Layman, get something for Skal.

We then trade Vonleh at the deadline and Skal becomes our new, exciting young PF, as well as cut our losses with Layman.

Skal would be nice because he’s got a nice rounded offensive game and also fits Terry’s offense.

I like Malachi because he’s a tough defender with great length (7’ wingspan) who’s a much better shooter than his percentages indicate and can score off the dribble. He just needs a chance with a real team. He’d be a cheap gamble to fill our biggest hole.

 

[BonesJones]

Skal would be nice because he’s got a nice rounded offensive game and also fits Terry’s offense.

I like Malachi because he’s a tough defender with great length (7’ wingspan) who’s a much better shooter than his percentages indicate and can score off the dribble. He just needs a chance with a real team. He’d be a cheap gamble to fill our biggest hole.

Both of those guys are posters that Stotts would mold well. Both of them have more natural skill and drive than Harkless.

 

[illmatic99]

Lowe and Windhorst talked about possibility of a CJ for Love + picks deal but said Blazers wouldn't be interested. Lowe suggested a Frye for Harkless with some 2nd round picks exchange but Windhorst says Frye will end up in Sac, for sure.

Windy: "Dame started to rattle the cage, but how shaky is it?" Lowe: "they have consistently said they won't trade the two guards. But they need to cut money for sure." Windy: "What if Cavs would take on Meyers Leonard and threw in picks for CJ?" Lowe: "It would be interesting for sure."

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=22202591