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CJ + Meyers for Love + Frye (expiring)

and a pick swap of our pick for the BK pick?

How about that? Then use our AC trade exception to get someone like Jeremy Lamb or Courtney Lee to be our SG.

Dame/Lee/Aminu/Love/Nurk is pretty decent. And we will have a definite lottery pick in the summer to mess around with and a bit more salary flexibility.
 
Lowe and Windhorst talked about possibility of a CJ for Love + picks deal but said Blazers wouldn't be interested. Lowe suggested a Frye for Harkless with some 2nd round picks exchange but Windhorst says Frye will end up in Sac, for sure.

Windy: "Dame started to rattle the cage, but how shaky is it?" Lowe: "they have consistently said they won't trade the two guards. But they need to cut money for sure." Windy: "What if Cavs would take on Meyers Leonard and threw in picks for CJ?" Lowe: "It would be interesting for sure."

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=22202591

Interesting, but the problem is, in order to take on Meyer's contract, they need to send an equally shitty one back. Shumpert would work, but damn that guy sucks and his contract is only 1 year shorter than Meyers.

Fry would work, is an expiring contract and C.J. + Meyers for Love + Frye would get us under the luxury tax threshold. But, the article says "Frye will end up in Sac, for sure".

BNM
 
Windy: "Dame started to rattle the cage, but how shaky is it?" Lowe: "they have consistently said they won't trade the two guards. But they need to cut money for sure." Windy: "What if Cavs would take on Meyers Leonard and threw in picks for CJ?" Lowe: "It would be interesting for sure."

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=22202591
What stupid reporting.

The Cavs are over the cap.
They have no big trade exceptions.
They have no big expiring contracts.
So how the hell would they save us money?
 
Lowe and Windhorst talked about possibility of a CJ for Love + picks deal but said Blazers wouldn't be interested. Lowe suggested a Frye for Harkless with some 2nd round picks exchange but Windhorst says Frye will end up in Sac, for sure.

Windy: "Dame started to rattle the cage, but how shaky is it?" Lowe: "they have consistently said they won't trade the two guards. But they need to cut money for sure." Windy: "What if Cavs would take on Meyers Leonard and threw in picks for CJ?" Lowe: "It would be interesting for sure."

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=22202591

So we should devalue the return on CJ just to get rid of Meyers?

How do these guys get paid for this shit
 
What stupid reporting.

The Cavs are over the cap.
They have no big trade exceptions.
They have no big expiring contracts.
So how the hell would they save us money?
He's talking about Portland saving money. Paraphrasing while listening on the fly
 
Interesting, but the problem is, in order to take on Meyer's contract, they need to send an equally shitty one back. Shumpert would work, but damn that guy sucks and his contract is only 1 year shorter than Meyers.

Fry would work, is an expiring contract and C.J. + Meyers for Love + Frye would get us under the luxury tax threshold. But, the article says "Frye will end up in Sac, for sure".

BNM
Exactly. It's like these guys don't know whay they're talking about.
 
So we should devalue the return on CJ just to get rid of Meyers?

How do these guys get paid for this shit
I don't think the framework that I mentioned is all that bad. CJ + Meyers for Love + Frye + some sort of pick or pick swap is not too off. Lowe and Windhorst are among the most connected and intelligent nba reporters fwiw. I'm prolly not doing justice with my paraphrasing. It's a good convo.
 
I don't think the framework that I mentioned is all that bad. CJ + Meyers for Love + Frye + some sort of pick or pick swap is not too off. Lowe and Windhorst are among the most connected and intelligent nba reporters fwiw. I'm prolly not doing justice with my paraphrasing. It's a good convo.
Fryes going to SAC.
 
I don't think the framework that I mentioned is all that bad. CJ + Meyers for Love + Frye + some sort of pick or pick swap is not too off. Lowe and Windhorst are among the most connected and intelligent nba reporters fwiw. I'm prolly not doing justice with my paraphrasing. It's a good convo.

Any CJ/Love package is a terrible idea..if you’re portland. We’re giving up a player’s prime years for someone else’s tail end. No thank you.
 
CJ for Love means our backcourt consists of 2 6’0 point guards, a dude who can’t shoot and pat. Pass on that
 
However I would do CJ/Collins/and a pick for Anthony Davis

Dame has stated he would like to play with Davis and if we had nurk/davis/dame I would be fine with pat starting.
 
How could they take on Leonard to save us money though?

By taking back a player with an expiring contract that that also gets us under the luxury tax threshold for this year.

Frye is exactly that player.

McCollum + Leonard = $33,867, 068
Love + Frye = $30,063,262

Difference = $3,803,806

POR is currently $2,849,291 over the tax threshold. This trade gets us under the threshold this year. So, we would not be paying any tax, and would actually get a share from the teams that are. Plus, it postpones year one of any potential repeater penalty by another year.

And, Frye is an expiring contract we could let walk. Meyers has another two years and $21.7 million left on his contract.

Unfortunately, CLE is hot to get George Hill from SAC and need Frye's contract to make that deal work. Maybe we can work out a 3-team trade where we get Love and Frye, Meyers and Crowder go to SAC and C.J. and Hill go to CLE.

That works salary wise, but other bits and pieces would be required to make it worth it to POR and SAC as they would be gift wrapping a much improved backcourt to CLE. A 3-guard rotation of Thomas, Hill and C.J. would be perfect for CLE. Hill can play both on and off the ball and is an excellent defender. So, he fits well next to both Thomas and C.J. With Crowder gone, they move LeBron back SF, Love back to PF and insert Tristan Thompson back into the starting line up at center. They get J.R. Smith, who has been miserable this year, out of the starting line up (replaced by C.J.) and maybe out of the rotation all together (they still have Wade and Korver to provide scoring off the bench).

BNM
 
Harkless for Lance Thomas, gets us under the Luxury Tax (I think, it's very close)
 
See my suggested 3-team trade. Its not like SAC wants Frye. He's just needed to make the salaries work.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc9dpu6o

BNM
If it's a 3-team trade then that's different. He didn't suggest a 3-team trade so he was disagreeing with the stuff he reported haha.

Still, CJ for Love is an awful idea. We have a logjam of bigs. We don't have anyone to replace CJ (Lamb is a huge downgrade). Love is on the decline, while CJ is still 26.

CJ for Love doesn't make us any better defensively, we lose a ball handler, and our offense doesn't get any better. I don't know why people are entertaining this idea.
 
If it's a 3-team trade then that's different. He didn't suggest a 3-team trade so he was disagreeing with the stuff he reported haha.

Still, CJ for Love is an awful idea. We have a logjam of bigs. We don't have anyone to replace CJ (Lamb is a huge downgrade). Love is on the decline, while CJ is still 26.

CJ for Love doesn't make us any better defensively, we lose a ball handler, and our offense doesn't get any better. I don't know why people are entertaining this idea.

Not saying I agree with the trade, just pointing what's possible. Getting that BRK pick from CLE, plus unloading Meyers and getting under the luxury tax would at least get Neil's attention.

BNM
 
We don't have anyone to replace CJ (Lamb is a huge downgrade).

Undersized SGs who are good shooters, good dribblers, and bad defenders are always available late in the first round. And they only make a couple million per year, not 26M.

As I've said since the first game I saw him in Summer League, McCollum is no Lillard. For years you adored him; I said big deal.
 
CJ/Collins/1st rounder for Leonard

Dame/Napier
Turner/Pat
Leonard/Harkless
Amino/Vonleh
Nurk/Davis

Hello Defense
 
The key to unraveling Olshey's financial mess isn't just dumping Turner, Leonard, or previously Crabbe. It's dumping McCollum, for free if necessary.
 
Undersized SGs who are good shooters, good dribblers, and bad defenders are always available late in the first round. And they only make a couple million per year, not 26M.

As I've said since the first game I saw him in Summer League, McCollum is no Lillard. For years you adored him; I said big deal.

Here are the top 20 guards (by PPG) drafted in the bottom of the first (#20 and lower) in the last ten years. Yeah, no, none of these guys are on CJs level, except maybe Thomas but he’s a PG.

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Here are the top 20 guards (by PPG) drafted in the bottom of the first (#20 and lower) in the last ten years. Yeah, no, none of these guys are on CJs level, except maybe Thomas but he’s a PG.

I don't need to look at your list to know that you're wrong. You say that it's not true that 2 guards per year (=20/2) are drafted late in the 1st or the 2nd, who can do what McCollum does. Even Napier can do what McCollum does, plus be an excellent passing PG, plus not be a butterfingers losing the ball a third of his possessions, plus lead the team in steals, plus not have a contrite jerky attitude, plus not make $26M per year.
 
I don't need to look at your list to know that you're wrong. You say that it's not true that 2 guards per year (=20/2) are drafted late in the 1st or the 2nd, who can do what McCollum does. Even Napier can do what McCollum does, plus be an excellent passing PG, plus not be a butterfingers losing the ball a third of his possessions, plus lead the team in steals, plus not have a contrite jerky attitude, plus not make $26M per year.

Are you the ESPN mod?
 

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