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What makes you think Lopez is average? Didn't he put up a decidedly above-average 18.9 PER as a starter in NO last year? And hasn't he been pretty well above-average this season as well? I don't think the comparison is quite analogous.

Honestly, I was being generous calling Turner "average". He hasn't sniffed average in 4 years. As a #2 overall pick.

Luc Longly and Bill Cartwright put up some pretty decent numbers to. Does that mean he was above average?
 
Luc Longly and Bill Cartwright put up some pretty decent numbers to. Does that mean he was above average?

Longley never put up decent numbers.

Cartwright was absolutely "above average" when he played for the Knicks. He was even an all-star his rookie year. On the Bulls though, Cartwright's numbers were not good.

Your comparisons are terrible. You really should just stop.
 
Longley never put up decent numbers.

Cartwright was absolutely "above average" when he played for the Knicks. He was even an all-star his rookie year. On the Bulls though, Cartwright's numbers were not good.

Your comparisons are terrible. You really should just stop.

In 97\98 Longly had 11 pts 6 rebounds and 3assts a game. That's decent. He never was great but he had some decent numbers in a few of his seasons.
 
What makes you think Lopez is average? Didn't he put up a decidedly above-average 18.9 PER as a starter in NO last year? And hasn't he been pretty well above-average this season as well? I don't think the comparison is quite analogous.

Honestly, I was being generous calling Turner "average". He hasn't sniffed average in 4 years. As a #2 overall pick.

He is above average…..for us. He fits in very well. As far as before this year, I think that most people would have classified him as a decent center. Certainly not a top center nor a shitty center, middle of the road…..kind of average.

Turner has skills. He has been average, but maybe with a different team he becomes…... above average. It all comes down to fitting the pieces together.
 
Wonder what this is??? Gunderson felt compelled retweet!!

Tony Allen

Wow !!!
 
Wonder what this is??? Gunderson felt compelled retweet!!

Tony Allen

Wow !!!

Was a rumor of him being traded to Minnesota. Would be a great addition for them in a playoff push, I think.
 
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Grizzlies and Wolves are discussing a trade that may involve J.J. Barea, Chase Budinger, Tony Allen, Tayshaun Prince
 
Was a rumor of him being traded to Minnesota. Would be a great addition for them in a playoff push, I think.

Why would Memphis make that deal? They're rolling right now. Plus, Allen has been out for 6 weeks, and when he comes back, will only help Memphis and their slowdown/defense game plan.
 
Why would Memphis make that deal? They're rolling right now. Plus, Allen has been out for 6 weeks, and when he comes back, will only help Memphis and their slowdown/defense game plan.

Courtney Lee can give them similar production, but also can shoot the 3. Budinger gives them someone who can shoot from outside, and Barea gives them a backup PG they don't currently have.
 
Courtney Lee can give them similar production, but also can shoot the 3. Budinger gives them someone who can shoot from outside, and Barea gives them a backup PG they don't currently have.

Memphis has 15 on their roster right now. Who else goes, or do they just waive 2 players?

Wow, just saw that Marc Gasol dinged his knee again, and is questionable for the Knick game. That sucks for Memphis.
 
I'm still a bit cynical about this veracity of this rumor. Two teams who are potentially battling for the #8 seed are looking to trade with each other. That rarely happens.
 
Memphis has 15 on their roster right now. Who else goes, or do they just waive 2 players?

Wow, just saw that Marc Gasol dinged his knee again, and is questionable for the Knick game. That sucks for Memphis.

allen and prince for budinger and barea
 
Ah I love this time of year. Millions of trade rumors that in the end really mean nothign but are fun none the less.
 
The Sacramento Kings offered Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and two draft picks for Rajon Rondo, according to Yahoo! Sports

The Sacramento Kings offered the Boston Celtics a package of Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and draft picks for Rajon Rondo, according to a source.

The deal did not go through due to Rondo's lack of interest in signing a long-term contract with the Kings.

The Celtics reportedly want multiple first round picks in a deal for Rondo.
 
The Sacramento Kings offered Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and two draft picks for Rajon Rondo, according to Yahoo! Sports

The Sacramento Kings offered the Boston Celtics a package of Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and draft picks for Rajon Rondo, according to a source.

The deal did not go through due to Rondo's lack of interest in signing a long-term contract with the Kings.

The Celtics reportedly want multiple first round picks in a deal for Rondo.

Oh Rondo....
 
The Sacramento Kings offered Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and two draft picks for Rajon Rondo, according to Yahoo! Sports

The Sacramento Kings offered the Boston Celtics a package of Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore and draft picks for Rajon Rondo, according to a source.

The deal did not go through due to Rondo's lack of interest in signing a long-term contract with the Kings.

The Celtics reportedly want multiple first round picks in a deal for Rondo.

Smart guy, especially with the Kings giving up picks.
 
And Boston does that becuase.........

Because it works on the trade machine. What I'd like to see are the trades that BGD doesn't post here. Those must be wonderful.
 
That would have actually been a pretty interesting trade for Boston. Thomas and McLemore.
 

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