Trade Ideas Thread (3 Viewers)

[tester551]

Why would Memphis do that? They give up the best player and a pick to take on $4M more of useless salary. Makes no sense.

Charlottes not going to trade Lamb for $6M savings and a bunch of nothing. He's expiring. They have much worse contracts. That's like saying we trade Aminu for Tony Bradley and a 2nd to "save salary".

Sorry man.. haha.

These are no more unrealistic than the trades you propose here all the time.

I admit that the Lamb trade is far fetched.

The Parsons trade is completely fair IMO, due to his injury history.

 

[Hoopguru]

Completely agree, this goes back to when people thought Sheed should play the 3. We shouldn't try to develop one of our young hopes at the wrong position.

Bird played 4 for 4-5 years than McHale started there and LB moved to the 3.
Many players including MJ didn't know if he was a 40r3...

 

[Hoopguru]

Bird played 4 for 4-5 years than McHale started there and LB moved to the 3.
Many players including MJ didn't know if he was a 40r3...

and I'm not comparing Collins to Bird I agree that he's either a 4 and/or some 5.

 

[dviss1]

If LeBron goes there they keep Covington and start LeBron and Simmons in the backcourt.

God please no...

 

[BonesJones]

These are no more unrealistic than the trades you propose here all the time.

That's false.

 

[hoopsjock]

For anyone interested I made a post on Liberty Ballers asking what they thought would be fair compensation for taking on the contract of Bayless for no money going back. I read an article saying they were likely to stretch Bayless this summer so I thought why not see what they'd be willing to give up instead of having to do that.

https://www.libertyballers.com/2018...s-instead-of-stretching-his-contract#comments

One idea I hadn't really thought of until making the post was instead of draft pick compensation to try and get the rights to Jonah Bolden, Anzejs Pasecniks, and/or Mathias Lessort. The article I read also seemed to indicate that they weren't going to pick up the extremely cheap team option for Richaun Holmes of $1.6 million because every penny is crucial to getting enough for a max free agent.

If they gave us Bolden, Holmes, and Bayless for the TPE that would be pretty solid in my opinion. They have four 2nd round picks (38, 39, 56, 60) that we could try and get included as well. A big rotation of Nurk, Collins, Bolden (if he came over or Aminu if he doesn't), and Holmes is pretty strong with a ton of upside. I'd imagine the 76ers are pretty high on Bolden though.

 

[Scalma]

For anyone interested I made a post on Liberty Ballers asking what they thought would be fair compensation for taking on the contract of Bayless for no money going back. I read an article saying they were likely to stretch Bayless this summer so I thought why not see what they'd be willing to give up instead of having to do that.

https://www.libertyballers.com/2018...s-instead-of-stretching-his-contract#comments

One idea I hadn't really thought of until making the post was instead of draft pick compensation to try and get the rights to Jonah Bolden, Anzejs Pasecniks, and/or Mathias Lessort. The article I read also seemed to indicate that they weren't going to pick up the extremely cheap team option for Richaun Holmes of $1.6 million because every penny is crucial to getting enough for a max free agent.

If they gave us Bolden, Holmes, and Bayless for the TPE that would be pretty solid in my opinion. They have four 2nd round picks (38, 39, 56, 60) that we could try and get included as well. A big rotation of Nurk, Collins, Bolden (if he came over or Aminu if he doesn't), and Holmes is pretty strong with a ton of upside. I'd imagine the 76ers are pretty high on Bolden though.

Bolden and Lessort would both interest me. I was high on Lessort and Bolden fits our system.

 

[hoopsjock]

Bolden and Lessort would both interest me. I was high on Lessort and Bolden fits our system.

Would you take on Bayless for just the rights to those two? Lessort is only 6'9" and can't/doesn't really shoot outside so I'm not as high on him. Bolden would be a good fit though. I kind of like the thought of a Bolden and Collins tandem.

 

[Scalma]

Would you take on Bayless for just the rights to those two? Lessort is only 6'9" and can't/doesn't really shoot outside so I'm not as high on him. Bolden would be a good fit though. I kind of like the thought of a Bolden and Collins tandem.

I like Lessort because of his defensive versatility. He can guard multiple positions. He’s also one of the best offensive rebounders in Europe. Pretty much if you like Jordan Bell you would like Lessort. Would I take on Bayless just for Lessort? I mean it’s not my money, but if we’re using the TPE I’d want someone better. But if they added Bolden as well, I just might. I also like Cabarrot. Bayless, Lessort, and Cabarrot for the TPE?

 

[hoopsjock]

I like Lessort because of his defensive versatility. He can guard multiple positions. He’s also one of the best offensive rebounders in Europe. Pretty much if you like Jordan Bell you would like Lessort. Would I take on Bayless just for Lessort? I mean it’s not my money, but if we’re using the TPE I’d want someone better. But if they added Bolden as well, I just might. I also like Cabarrot. Bayless, Lessort, and Cabarrot for the TPE?

If Bolden wasn't included I would want #26 then. Bayless, TLC, #26, and the rights to Lessort? That seems pretty fair.

I'd let Napier and Connaughton walk then and just let Bayless and TLC take over their minutes. Bayless might be a good trade chip at the deadline as an expiring contract too.

 

[Scalma]

If Bolden wasn't included I would want #26 then. Bayless, TLC, #26, and the rights to Lessort? That seems pretty fair.

I'd let Napier and Connaughton walk then and just let Bayless and TLC take over their minutes. Bayless might be a good trade chip at the deadline as an expiring contract too.

Shit I meant to include Bolden as well, but now that you mention it, I might take #26 instead. The more picks for Olshey the better.

 

[BonesJones]

Would you take on Bayless for just the rights to those two? Lessort is only 6'9" and can't/doesn't really shoot outside so I'm not as high on him. Bolden would be a good fit though. I kind of like the thought of a Bolden and Collins tandem.

I was super high on Bolden at the draft and I would've rather taken him than Swanigan.

 

[BonesJones]

Maybe this could work? Use the TPE however is most effictive.
MIL Gets: Aminu, 26th
PHI Gets: Future POR/MIL 2nds
POR Gets: 17th, Bayless, Holmes, Dellavedova, Bolden, any other salary PHI wants to dump

Or some variation of?

 

[BonesJones]

If Bolden wasn't included I would want #26 then. Bayless, TLC, #26, and the rights to Lessort? That seems pretty fair.

I'd let Napier and Connaughton walk then and just let Bayless and TLC take over their minutes. Bayless might be a good trade chip at the deadline as an expiring contract too.

I'd rather play Baldwin than Bayless.

 

[hoopsjock]

I'd rather play Baldwin than Bayless.

Oh, I actually meant to put that assuming Baldwin develops. I should've said Bayless would simply take Napier's spot on the roster not necessarily his minutes.

 

[hoopsjock]

Maybe this could work? Use the TPE however is most effictive.
MIL Gets: Aminu, 26th
PHI Gets: Future POR/MIL 2nds
POR Gets: 17th, Bayless, Holmes, Dellavedova, Bolden, any other salary PHI wants to dump

Or some variation of?

My only problems with this:

1) If Bolden doesn't come over this year we are thin at PF.

2) I don't think Philly would need any compensation at all for that, certainly not picks. We could just give them the rights to that guy we got in the trade with Chicago last year, ha ha.

3) There aren't a of guys I really like that would be on the board at 17 that wouldn't still be there at 24 most likely either (unless Hutch rises) so that is a lot of salary to take on for the 17th pick and we lost Aminu.

 

[BonesJones]

My only problems with this:

1) If Bolden doesn't come over this year we are thin at PF.

2) I don't think Philly would need any compensation at all for that, certainly not picks. We could just give them the rights to that guy we got in the trade with Chicago last year, ha ha.

3) There aren't a of guys I really like that would be on the board at 17 that wouldn't still be there at 24 most likely either (unless Hutch rises) so that is a lot of salary to take on for the 17th pick and we lost Aminu.

1.) How? Holmes replaces Aminu.

2.) That's fine.

3.) The thought would be to try to move up for Mikal Bridges.

 

[hoopsjock]

1.) How? Holmes replaces Aminu.

2.) That's fine.

3.) The thought would be to try to move up for Mikal Bridges.

1) Holmes is a center. He can't really play PF.

3) I don't think 17 and 24 is enough to move up to 9 or so to get him.

 

[Scalma]

1) Holmes is a center. He can't really play PF.

3) I don't think 17 and 24 is enough to move up to 9 or so to get him.

It isn’t.

 

[hoopsjock]

Shit I meant to include Bolden as well, but now that you mention it, I might take #26 instead. The more picks for Olshey the better.

I was super high on Bolden at the draft and I would've rather taken him than Swanigan.

It sounds like from everything I'm reading both on national sites and 76ers forums that they would be willing to dump a bunch of stuff if it meant clearing up more cap space. It seems like the #10 pick might actually be in play. Bayless, Holmes, TLC, and #10 instantly clears about $15 million in cap space for them this summer. If we threw in a lottery protected 1st in 2019 maybe they would throw in Bolden too and be more apt to include #10.

 

[BonesJones]

1) Holmes is a center. He can't really play PF.

3) I don't think 17 and 24 is enough to move up to 9 or so to get him.

1) But Davis can, and Holmes can space the floor enough to make that pairing work.

3) Not by itself, no. But Turner, Swanigan, 17, 24, and a 2019 POR 1st for Lee, Thomas, and 9 has some potential.

I think Bridges could fall to 10 though.

 

[Scalma]

It sounds like from everything I'm reading both on national sites and 76ers forums that they would be willing to dump a bunch of stuff if it meant clearing up more cap space. It seems like the #10 pick might actually be in play. Bayless, Holmes, TLC, and #10 instantly clears about $15 million in cap space for them this summer. If we threw in a lottery protected 1st in 2019 maybe they would throw in Bolden too and be more apt to include #10.

Where do I sign up

 

[BonesJones]

It sounds like from everything I'm reading both on national sites and 76ers forums that they would be willing to dump a bunch of stuff if it meant clearing up more cap space. It seems like the #10 pick might actually be in play. Bayless, Holmes, TLC, and #10 instantly clears about $15 million in cap space for them this summer. If we threw in a lottery protected 1st in 2019 maybe they would throw in Bolden too and be more apt to include #10.

Theres many teams with space that would be willing to do that, but most of them are lotto teams that wouldnt include a pick next year.

I'd do that in a heartbeat. I would even give them a lottery protected right to swap 1sts in 2020.

I would applaud Olshey for making that move. I'm not optimistic though.

 

[hoopsjock]

Theres many teams with space that would be willing to do that, but most of them are lotto teams that wouldnt include a pick next year.

I'd do that in a heartbeat. I would even give them a lottery protected right to swap 1sts in 2020.

I would applaud Olshey for making that move. I'm not optimistic though.

I would jizz my pants if we traded a lottery protected 2019 1st and got back Bayless, Holmes, TLC, rights to Bolden, and #10. We'd be so set giving up just a non-lottery pick for Bridges, could still get Hutchinson too at 24, have the potential of Bolden stretching the floor, and have some cheap roster filler in Holmes and TLC who still have some upside. All without having to give up Dame, CJ, Harkless, Aminu, Collins, or Nurk. We would have a lot of ammo for future trades too.

 

[hoopsjock]

1) But Davis can, and Holmes can space the floor enough to make that pairing work.

3) Not by itself, no. But Turner, Swanigan, 17, 24, and a 2019 POR 1st for Lee, Thomas, and 9 has some potential.

I think Bridges could fall to 10 though.

1) I hate the thought of Davis playing PF at all. Holmes thinks he can space the floor but he shot 12.9% on 3's this year on 0.6 attempts per game.

3) I don't see either team doing that. Turner is not likely to help us move up not matter how many picks are included.

 

[BonesJones]

1) I hate the thought of Davis playing PF at all. Holmes thinks he can space the floor but he shot 12.9% on 3's this year on 0.6 attempts per game.

3) I don't see either team doing that. Turner is not likely to help us move up not matter how many picks are included.

But Holmes shot 35% last year and is effective from mid-range as well. I think Davis is just as effective at PF.

Turner and Swanigan for Lee and Thomas is an even swap IMO. They dont add salary at all, and none of those players except for Swanigan will be on the team a couple years from now. Porzingas will be out for at least half the season so a PF to develop is of value to them.

So 17, 24, and a 2019 1st for 9? I could see it. Khyri Thomas at 17 would be a great pick for them. Hutchison at 24 would be as well.

 

[BonesJones]

I would jizz my pants if we traded a lottery protected 2019 1st and got back Bayless, Holmes, TLC, rights to Bolden, and #10. We'd be so set giving up just a non-lottery pick for Bridges, could still get Hutchinson too at 24, have the potential of Bolden stretching the floor, and have some cheap roster filler in Holmes and TLC who still have some upside. All without having to give up Dame, CJ, Harkless, Aminu, Collins, or Nurk. We would have a lot of ammo for future trades too.

Would you give up the right to swap 1sts in 2020 along with that?

 

[hoopsjock]

Would you give up the right to swap 1sts in 2020 along with that?

Probably, with some protection though.

 

[hoopsjock]

A Philly fan said he would do this trade without hesitation:

Philly gets a top-55 protected future 2nd rounder

Portland gets Bayless, TLC, Holmes, rights to Lessort, rights to Pasecniks, #26, #38, and #56

I could probably be talked into that but I countered by asking him what adding Bolden into the equation would take away. I'll let you guys know what he says.

Another guy says we could have any combo of 26, 38, 39, TLC, Holmes, or Justin Anderson with Bayless. I'm not sure if he just forgot to include the international guys or if he wouldn't include them in this trade. I'll ask him too.

 

[hoopsjock]

A Philly fan said he would do this trade without hesitation:

Philly gets a top-55 protected future 2nd rounder

Portland gets Bayless, TLC, Holmes, rights to Lessort, rights to Pasecniks, #26, #38, and #56

I could probably be talked into that but I countered by asking him what adding Bolden into the equation would take away. I'll let you guys know what he says.

Another guy says we could have any combo of 26, 38, 39, TLC, Holmes, or Justin Anderson with Bayless. I'm not sure if he just forgot to include the international guys or if he wouldn't include them in this trade. I'll ask him too.

So the above trade the guy said that including Bolden wouldn't be a deal breaker and that the cap space is worth giving that up. Holy crap, I'd do that, would you guys?

Dame/Baldwin/Bayless
CJ/TLC
Harkless/Turner/Layman
Aminu/Collins/Swanigan
Nurkic/Holmes/Leonard/PapaG
Plus picks 24, 26, 38, and 56 and the rights to Bolden, Lessort, and Pasecniks.

We'd have to probably let Davis, Napier, and Connaughton walk and most likely decline the options on PapaG and Layman to make room for rookies. I'm assuming we'd try to package picks to move up. This would of course give us a ton of trade assets too.