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A top 5 pick... and we get George Hill.
I saw the trade. None of that refutes what I'm saying. Fans love the idea of draft picks and rookies. A 27 year old all star, all nba player isn't going to be excited about the 5th pick in the draft. Especially at the expense of CJ. And if that move is made, if he already had a conversation about the direction of our team with Paul, then he's likely out.
 
I saw the trade. None of that refutes what I'm saying. Fans love the idea of draft picks and rookies. A 27 year old all star, all nba player isn't going to be excited about the 5th pick in the draft. Especially at the expense of CJ. And if that move is made, if he already had a conversation about the direction of our team with Paul, then he's likely out.
This is a top heavy draft. A 5th overall pick is extremely valuable, and were not winning shit in the next couple years. And I don't care if he's excited, we get a player in Hill, who, if he plays the same as he did in Utah, is just about as good as CJ. Trade for someone like Lee to be pur starting two and were better than we were before with a top pick in hand as well. We save money and can make more follow up moves.

We don't need to pander to Dame, as i doubt Dame is "excited" at the moment anyways... I also doubt his loyalty hinges upon CJ being on the team.

So we need to handcuff ourselves to mediocrity by keeping CJ to keep Dame? You see how that makes no sense, right?
 
I'm not a fan of giving up picks but what about this:

Turner, Leonard, and #24

For

Jeremy Lin and DeMarre Carroll

Saves us $1.8 million next season and both players come off the books a year before Leonard and Turner do. Nets are still desperate for picks.

Dame, CJ, Harkless, Aminu, Nurk

Lin, Baldwin, Carroll, Collins, Davis

PapaG, Layman, Swanigan

Doesn't really change our starting lineup situation but I really like that 2nd unit. We could still use the TPE's and/or the tax-MLE to fill out the last couple spots and add some more talent.
 
I'm not a fan of giving up picks but what about this:

Turner, Leonard, and #24

For

Jeremy Lin and DeMarre Carroll

Saves us $1.8 million next season and both players come off the books a year before Leonard and Turner do. Nets are still desperate for picks.

Dame, CJ, Harkless, Aminu, Nurk

Lin, Baldwin, Carroll, Collins, Davis

PapaG, Layman, Swanigan

Doesn't really change our starting lineup situation but I really like that 2nd unit. We could still use the TPE's and/or the tax-MLE to fill out the last couple spots and add some more talent.
I'd try to flip Lin and Layman to CLE for Hill.
 
I'd try to flip Lin and Layman to CLE for Hill.
This would also result with the same lineup:
CLE Gets: Turner, 2019 1st
POR Gets: Hill

BKN Gets: Leonard, Swanigan
POR Gets: Carroll
 
This would also result with the same lineup:
CLE Gets: Turner, 2019 1st
POR Gets: Hill

BKN Gets: Leonard, Swanigan
POR Gets: Carroll
I don't know why any of the 3 teams would do that trade. Portland takes on even more salary next year instead of reducing salary (Hill makes a disgusting $19 million next year and either gets $18 million the year after that or we still have to pay him $1 million for being waived) and would have to give up a future pick that could potentially be decent. The Nets don't get a pick for taking on salary which is more than likely what they are looking for. The Cavs have to take on an extra year of salary for Turner when their salary situation is already a mess.
 
I wonder if Milwaukee would be interested in something like this:

POR Gets: Middleton, Dellavedova, Snell (TPE)
MIL Gets: Aminu, #24, (maybe the right to swap 2020 1sts?)
3rd Team w/ Cap Space (DAL?) Gets: Meyers Leonard, Caleb Swanigan, Future 2nds

Milwaukee saves ~$26M next year, gets a good defender at help at the PF position that creates switchability w/Giannis.. Could go with a starting unit of Bledsoe, Brogdon, Giannis, Aminu, and a C (Henson?) And use the extra pick, free agency and the draft to fill out the bench.

After free agency, if LeBron leaves we could then try to flip Turner and a 2019 1st for Hill. Sign Ilyasova to an MLE

Lillard / Hill / Delly
McCollum / Hill / Baldwin
Middleton / Harkless / Snell
Collins / Ilyasova
Nurkic / Davis

I like that.
 
I don't know why any of the 3 teams would do that trade. Portland takes on even more salary next year instead of reducing salary (Hill makes a disgusting $19 million next year and either gets $18 million the year after that or we still have to pay him $1 million for being waived) and would have to give up a future pick that could potentially be decent. The Nets don't get a pick for taking on salary which is more than likely what they are looking for. The Cavs have to take on an extra year of salary for Turner when their salary situation is already a mess.
Hill and Turner have the same contract lengths and pretty much the same salary. So if LBJ leaves, they'd do it to get a draft pick for Hill IMO.

Brooklyn has no big man depth and a ton of wing depth. If they value Swanigan, they do it. They seem like a team that would experiment with Meyers too (they don't have the best shooting). Add in some 2nds and its possible.
 
Hill and Turner have the same contract lengths and pretty much the same salary. So if LBJ leaves, they'd do it to get a draft pick for Hill IMO.

Brooklyn has no big man depth and a ton of wing depth. If they value Swanigan, they do it. They seem like a team that would experiment with Meyers too (they don't have the best shooting). Add in some 2nds and its possible.
They don't have the same contract. Hill's contract in 2019-2020 is non-guaranteed so they could cut him after next season and only owe him $1 million instead of the $18.6 million they'd have to pay Turner.

No one is taking Leonard for Swanigan and 2nd round picks. That's just not enough value. Maybe next summer when Leonard becomes an expiring contract.
 
They don't have the same contract. Hill's contract in 2019-2020 is non-guaranteed so they could cut him after next season and only owe him $1 million instead of the $18.6 million they'd have to pay Turner.

No one is taking Leonard for Swanigan and 2nd round picks. That's just not enough value. Maybe next summer when Leonard becomes an expiring contract.
Didn't realize it was non-guaranteed, which sucks because Hill is exactly what we need in a 3rd guard.

I think you underrate what some team may see in Meyers. "Take on" Swanigan? He's a fringe 1st-round pick from a deep draft. He doesn't have negative value, and likely has slight positive value. I think a team would take on Leonard for Swanigan and a couple 2nds. Some team would value experimenting with Meyers.
 
I wonder how gettable Jeremy Lamb is. He's going into the last year of his contract and is exactly who we need in a 3rd guard (can attack the rim, handle the ball, shoot the 3, and play solid defense). Given that the Hornets might rebuild and/or look to shed salary, as well as Malik Monk and Dwayne Bacon being young guys who could deserve more minutes next year (plus whoever they draft), I think we should go after him.

POR Gets: Jeremy Lamb (TPE), Nicolas Batum
CHA Gets: Evan Turner, Jake Layman

CHA saves $11M in year one and apx. $45M total.

Lillard / Baldwin
McCollum / Lamb
Harkless / Batum
Aminu / Collins
Nurkic / Davis

OR

ATL Gets: Meyers Leonard, Al-Farouq Aminu, #24
POR Gets: Marvin Williams, Jeremy Lamb, Miles Plumlee (TPE), #30
CHA Gets: Future 2nd(s)

Charlotte saves $21.5M next year, $36.5M total.

Sign Wayne Ellington MLE.

Lillard (35) / McCollum (13)
McCollum (22) / Ellington (20) / Lamb (6)
Harkless (28) / Lamb (20) /
Williams (22) / Collins (26)
Nurkic (30) / Davis (18)
 
Didn't realize it was non-guaranteed, which sucks because Hill is exactly what we need in a 3rd guard.

I think you underrate what some team may see in Meyers. "Take on" Swanigan? He's a fringe 1st-round pick from a deep draft. He doesn't have negative value, and likely has slight positive value. I think a team would take on Leonard for Swanigan and a couple 2nds. Some team would value experimenting with Meyers.
I wasn't trying to say Swanigan has negative value. I actually still think he's capable of being a nice player. If any team wanted Leonard he'd be on that team by now. It's gonna take more than a rookie who barely played and 2nd round picks to get rid of him unless you're taking on another bad contract close to his.
 
I wasn't trying to say Swanigan has negative value. I actually still think he's capable of being a nice player. If any team wanted Leonard he'd be on that team by now. It's gonna take more than a rookie who barely played and 2nd round picks to get rid of him unless you're taking on another bad contract close to his.

Leonards contract might be a bit easier to move now as a team can look at it as a 2 year deal with it being an expiring contract the 2nd year if Leonard doesn't work out. He does have an intriguing skill set and GM's are often looking to take a risk. I guess we will find out this summer or near the trade deadline and even if we had to take back a similar contract then maybe Leonard can be flipped for a similar contract but a player that can be of more use.
 
I wonder how gettable Jeremy Lamb is. He's going into the last year of his contract and is exactly who we need in a 3rd guard (can attack the rim, handle the ball, shoot the 3, and play solid defense). Given that the Hornets might rebuild and/or look to shed salary, as well as Malik Monk and Dwayne Bacon being young guys who could deserve more minutes next year (plus whoever they draft), I think we should go after him.

POR Gets: Jeremy Lamb (TPE), Nicolas Batum
CHA Gets: Evan Turner, Jake Layman

CHA saves $11M in year one and apx. $45M total.

Lillard / Baldwin
McCollum / Lamb
Harkless / Batum
Aminu / Collins
Nurkic / Davis

OR

ATL Gets: Meyers Leonard, Al-Farouq Aminu, #24
POR Gets: Marvin Williams, Jeremy Lamb, Miles Plumlee (TPE), #30
CHA Gets: Future 2nd(s)

Charlotte saves $21.5M next year, $36.5M total.

Sign Wayne Ellington MLE.

Lillard (35) / McCollum (13)
McCollum (22) / Ellington (20) / Lamb (6)
Harkless (28) / Lamb (20) /
Williams (22) / Collins (26)
Nurkic (30) / Davis (18)
I'd rather just eat Turner's contract than take on an extra year of Batum's contract. I'd be surprised if the Blazers took on any contracts that go past 2020.

The other trade is difficult to pull off. Atlanta wouldn't have cap space until after the draft. No team is going to use up cap space to move up 6 spots in the draft when they already have two higher picks. Charlotte would do that trade in a second though. I used to be really high on Lamb but he just never developed. I'd rather have Aminu at this point.
 
Leonards contract might be a bit easier to move now as a team can look at it as a 2 year deal with it being an expiring contract the 2nd year if Leonard doesn't work out. He does have an intriguing skill set and GM's are often looking to take a risk. I guess we will find out this summer or near the trade deadline and even if we had to take back a similar contract then maybe Leonard can be flipped for a similar contract but a player that can be of more use.
It's a new NBA. Teams aren't as willing to take on salary like that. Most teams don't have cap space either. I do think he'll be tradeable next summer but even with just 2 years left it's still over $20 million for a bench player at best.
 
Maybe we can trade for DeRozan. Raptors have always kind of been in the same boat.
 
It's a new NBA. Teams aren't as willing to take on salary like that. Most teams don't have cap space either. I do think he'll be tradeable next summer but even with just 2 years left it's still over $20 million for a bench player at best.

I would look to Philly and see if a future pick and Leonard would bring back Bayless. Bayless would be a useful player and one less year on his contract. The benefit to Philly is they are only taking on one more year than Bayless and have another big on the roster as they have a fragile center right now. Something like that might be able to be pulled of either in the summer or before the trade deadline. Leonard is listed as 127th in the league and could likely drop even lower with new free agent signings this off season.
 
Why a trade won’t happen

Dame is untouchable. Obviously

Olshey loves CJ and laughs anytime a trade is even mentioned. He groups him in with Dame. Do I agree with it? Nope, but his opinion is the only one that matters.

Nurk is our defensive anchor, and he’s about to get paid.

Collins is pretty much untouchable as well.

Aminu and Harkless have value, but what would we get in return that upgrades our roster? Theyre more valuable to us than to anybody else.

The rest of the roster aren’t worth mentioning as trade pieces.

The only trade that has a chance is the Crabbe TPE.
 
Why a trade won’t happen

Dame is untouchable. Obviously

Olshey loves CJ and laughs anytime a trade is even mentioned. He groups him in with Dame. Do I agree with it? Nope, but his opinion is the only one that matters.

Nurk is our defensive anchor, and he’s about to get paid.

Collins is pretty much untouchable as well.

Aminu and Harkless have value, but what would we get in return that upgrades our roster? Theyre more valuable to us than to anybody else.

The rest of the roster aren’t worth mentioning as trade pieces.

The only trade that has a chance is the Crabbe TPE.
If this happens, I would not fault Dame at all if he hold another meeting with Paul Allen and requested a trade. I really hope Dame is holding the Screws to PA and PA is tighting the screws to Olshey.
 
I would look to Philly and see if a future pick and Leonard would bring back Bayless. Bayless would be a useful player and one less year on his contract. The benefit to Philly is they are only taking on one more year than Bayless and have another big on the roster as they have a fragile center right now. Something like that might be able to be pulled of either in the summer or before the trade deadline. Leonard is listed as 127th in the league and could likely drop even lower with new free agent signings this off season.
Huh? Philly is one of the least likely destinations for Leonard. They are trying to get enough cap space for free agents. I could possibly see a trade in which we acquire Bayless using the Trade Exception but there is a below zero chance they take on Leonard.
 
I see Meyers ending up in Dallas when Dirk hangs it up....Wes likes him...
 
Huh? Philly is one of the least likely destinations for Leonard. They are trying to get enough cap space for free agents. I could possibly see a trade in which we acquire Bayless using the Trade Exception but there is a below zero chance they take on Leonard.

Why would we use the tpe for Bayless?.That would make even less sense. My proposal was also possibly at the trade deadline
 
Would the Knicks make Kristaps Porziņģis and maybe Courtney Lee available in a Zach Collins Mo Harkless kind of deal?
 
I'd rather just eat Turner's contract than take on an extra year of Batum's contract. I'd be surprised if the Blazers took on any contracts that go past 2020.

The other trade is difficult to pull off. Atlanta wouldn't have cap space until after the draft. No team is going to use up cap space to move up 6 spots in the draft when they already have two higher picks. Charlotte would do that trade in a second though. I used to be really high on Lamb but he just never developed. I'd rather have Aminu at this point.
He developed a ton this year. He improved in every area.

We could take back smaller contracts from them using the Vonleh TPE to make it work. They'd only need to send out an additional $1.5M
 
I see Meyers ending up in Dallas when Dirk hangs it up....Wes likes him...
Wes is in his last year and unless we give up a pick or take back an equally bad contract Dallas won't take Meyers
 
He developed a ton this year. He improved in every area.

We could take back smaller contracts from them using the Vonleh TPE to make it work. They'd only need to send out an additional $1.5M
He had a career year shooting the 3 but was that an outlier or not? Who knows but he's a career 33.6% shooter from downtown. I know players usually improve their 3pt% under Stotts but I would rather not have another wing that other teams leave open. You often post per36 stats on here and if you look at Lamb's he didn't actually improve outside of about 1 assist per game and the 3pt%. His improved numbers this year are strictly due to averaging 5-6 minutes per game more than he had previously. He also got off to a hot start this year and cooled off. I wouldn't mind having him but he's nothing special or worth pursuing in a trade.
 
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