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Fez Von Savage said:
Compensation to inherit the BBB circus.

Ingram and SGA are elite prospects IMO. This is the type of deal you'd hope to get.
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In theory Ingram should be elite but it hasn't really translated into on the court success yet after two years. SGA is intriguing but I don't think you can call him elite either.
 
Clippers are very high on SGA anyway. They’ll be building around him for now.
 
BonesJones said:
With the team possibly looking to get under the luxury tax this season with ownership up in the air, we have to look towards Sacremento. It's been rumored before that they're willing to trade Labissiere and I think he'd be a great fit next to Collins and Nurk as a 3rd big going forward. He's young.

If we traded Meyers Leonard and our 2019 1st for Labissiere, it'd serve multiple purposese. It'd get us under the luxury tax, as well as give us a cheap 3rd big for 2019-2020 as well, which could be useful to replace Aminu if he walks. Without Sacremento having a 2019 1st and having a lot of young bigs (WCS, Bagley, Giles), that may be a trade they make.
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If we're buying into the Layman "third year jump", wouldn't Harkless be a better option for this deal? Sac probably does that without the inclusion of the pick, and we keep a full complement of bigs.
 
hoopsjock said:
In theory Ingram should be elite but it hasn't really translated into on the court success yet after two years. SGA is intriguing but I don't think you can call him elite either.
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Ingram's gone from 9 to 16 ppg (on 47% FG & 39% 3P), and he's barely 21. I don't think his trajectory really looks problematic. Wouldn't shock me at all if he jumps to 20+ ppg in year 3 on similar percentages. I mean, he's not Durant, but he sounds on track to elite to me.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Ingram's gone from 9 to 16 ppg (on 47% FG & 39% 3P), and he's barely 21. I don't think his trajectory really looks problematic. Wouldn't shock me at all if he jumps to 20+ ppg in year 3 on similar percentages. I mean, he's not Durant, but he sounds on track to elite to me.
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I didn't say his trajectory was problematic, but putting up 16 ppg on that roster last year isn't exactly great. The 3 point % is a little skewed because he doesn't shoot many of them (1.8 per game). If you look at Wiggins trajectory after his 2nd year he averaged 20.7 points per game on 46% shooting. My point is that Ingram still has to have another big jump to get near elite status. Durant averaged over 25 ppg his 2nd season with better percentages, that comparison isn't even close.
 
John Wall and Bradley Beal pubically called out teammates after Friday's embarrassing loss to the Kings.

The Wiz dropped to 1-4 on the season Friday night and tension appears to be building in the locker room. "We’ve got guys that’s worried about who’s getting shots. …You should never worry about that," said Wall. Brad Beal also had some harsh comments: "Sometimes, we have our own agendas on the floor, whether it’s complaining about shots, complaining about playing time, complaining about whatever it may be." Neither player mentioned Otto Porter by name, but coach Scott Brooks did, saying Porter "can’t worry about" his shots.
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Turner, Aminu, and a pick for Porter.
 
Scalma said:
John Wall and Bradley Beal pubically called out teammates after Friday's embarrassing loss to the Kings.

The Wiz dropped to 1-4 on the season Friday night and tension appears to be building in the locker room. "We’ve got guys that’s worried about who’s getting shots. …You should never worry about that," said Wall. Brad Beal also had some harsh comments: "Sometimes, we have our own agendas on the floor, whether it’s complaining about shots, complaining about playing time, complaining about whatever it may be." Neither player mentioned Otto Porter by name, but coach Scott Brooks did, saying Porter "can’t worry about" his shots.
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Turner, Aminu, and a pick for Porter.
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Wonder if Beal got 6 shots and Porter got 20 on a consistant basis if Beal would feel the same way.
 
Scalma said:
John Wall and Bradley Beal pubically called out teammates after Friday's embarrassing loss to the Kings.

The Wiz dropped to 1-4 on the season Friday night and tension appears to be building in the locker room. "We’ve got guys that’s worried about who’s getting shots. …You should never worry about that," said Wall. Brad Beal also had some harsh comments: "Sometimes, we have our own agendas on the floor, whether it’s complaining about shots, complaining about playing time, complaining about whatever it may be." Neither player mentioned Otto Porter by name, but coach Scott Brooks did, saying Porter "can’t worry about" his shots.
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Turner, Aminu, and a pick for Porter.
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Fuck! This makes me even more mad that we lost to them.
 
Thabo Sefolosha, anyone? He's just come off suspension for the Jazz, but they've got to find minutes for Niang, who is playing great for them.

PROS: great defender, good three point shooter. Would start for us right now, what with Harkless out.
CONS: old (34). Would have to change his number (22). What would Utah want for him? Would he fit into our Vonleh trade exception?

 
Rastapopoulos said:
Thabo Sefolosha, anyone? He's just come off suspension for the Jazz, but they've got to find minutes for Niang, who is playing great for them.

PROS: great defender, good three point shooter. Would start for us right now, what with Harkless out.
CONS: old (34). Would have to change his number (22). What would Utah want for him? Would he fit into our Vonleh trade exception?

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Love Thabo. Makes too much to fit into the TPE though. Don't see anything we could offer that would make sense for Utah.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Love Thabo. Makes too much to fit into the TPE though. Don't see anything we could offer that would make sense for Utah.
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Rastapopoulos said:
Thabo Sefolosha, anyone? He's just come off suspension for the Jazz, but they've got to find minutes for Niang, who is playing great for them.

PROS: great defender, good three point shooter. Would start for us right now, what with Harkless out.
CONS: old (34). Would have to change his number (22). What would Utah want for him? Would he fit into our Vonleh trade exception?

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Niang is playing well? How did Utah get him? Oh yeah. Portland is above that.
 
WAS Gets: Aminu, Leonard, POR 1st
SAC Gets: Harkless, Swanigan, WAS 2nd
POR Gets: Porter Jr, Kofous, Labissiere (TPE)
 
Natebishop3 said:
There is no reason why Collins can't play power forward. If Aldridge can play PF, and Dirk can play PF and Kevin Garnett can play PF, then Collins can play PF.
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I think the question is whether Collins, at this stage of his career, is as comfortable in the PF role, particularly in the Stotts system where the PF is used to stretch the defense, as he is playing the 5 spot. He kind of struggled last year when he was often put out on the perimeter as a spot up 3 point shooter. Also, moving him away from the basket covering 4s negates some of his defensive prowess.
 
e_blazer said:
I think the question is whether Collins, at this stage of his career, is as comfortable in the PF role, particularly in the Stotts system where the PF is used to stretch the defense, as he is playing the 5 spot. He kind of struggled last year when he was often put out on the perimeter as a spot up 3 point shooter. Also, moving him away from the basket covering 4s negates some of his defensive prowess.
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Well there's your problem. They shouldn't be trying to make him into Aminu.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Shouldn't be that hard. Just look at his notes from when he coached LMA.
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I think that Zach has to get a lot more comfortable with his perimeter shooting before that's an option. So far, he's nowhere near consistent in a contested shooting situation once he gets away from the basket.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Agreed. I don't see any reason that the Collins-Nurk pairing can't coexist just as well as the LMA-Rolo pairing. As long as they don't sing together on any commercials, that is.
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It's just lazy coaching by Stotts. I get putting Aminu in the corner because frankly I don't think his BBIQ is very good. He's a decent player, but his decision making is sometimes very questionable. But Zach is sharp. There's no reason to stick him in a corner and tell him to wait for the ball.
 
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