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Bamba's agent must do everything he can to get him out of Orlando.

Orlando is the place where potential goes to die.
 
I just can't, no matter how hard I try, imagine Olshey doing anything significant with this roster. I read these trade scenarios and I'm like yeah! but it's all dead inside me. No hope. But I'm a glutton for punishment, it seems, because here I am again reading them.
 
Scalma said:
I hate every single one of those proposals. I’m against attaching a first just to dump Meyers/Moe/Turner a year early.
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Agreed. Trades take 2 interested parties. FAs go where they want. The draft actually gives the team control over their own fate. In the hands of a competent GM, it is still the most cost effective way to add talent.

Now, if someone can just convince Olshey to draft a player instead of a "project."
 
Propagandist said:
I just can't, no matter how hard I try, imagine Olshey doing anything significant with this roster. I read these trade scenarios and I'm like yeah! but it's all dead inside me. No hope. But I'm a glutton for punishment, it seems, because here I am again reading them.
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I think the ownership uncertainly is more of a barrier. Because, as for Olshey, he DOES typically do a mid-season trade (that temporarily sparks us to a great second half record and then a flame out in the playoffs).

But now I say that, besides getting Nurk, does he do midseason trades? Somebody find his history of transactions...
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I think the ownership uncertainly is more of a barrier. Because, as for Olshey, he DOES typically do a mid-season trade (that temporarily sparks us to a great second half record and then a flame out in the playoffs).

But now I say that, besides getting Nurk, does he do midseason trades? Somebody find his history of transactions...
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Are you doubting this stuff about Jody Allen wanting to keep the team?

He's made a few. Last season to unload Noah. This season to unload whoever to get below the threshold. There was the Afflalo deal. The Nurk deal turned out to be significant. But since there's no precedent of swinging for the fences, these ideas all seem highly unOlsheyian.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I think the ownership uncertainly is more of a barrier. Because, as for Olshey, he DOES typically do a mid-season trade (that temporarily sparks us to a great second half record and then a flame out in the playoffs).

But now I say that, besides getting Nurk, does he do midseason trades? Somebody find his history of transactions...
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Afflalo and Nurk is all that comes to mind.
 
What's a little frustrating about Olshey is that he seems to stick with players much longer than I would, but then trade them (or let them go) just as they seem to be getting useful.
Certainly that was the case with Patty C, who is SO much better for the Bucks than Stauskas is for us. And it's certainly true for Vonleh (altho, to be fair, I didn't mind losing him) and some are still missing Ed Davis.
 
e_blazer said:
Anyone post these three trade ideas from ripcityproject yet? Sign me up for Avery Bradley.

https://ripcityproject.com/2018/12/...-portland-trail-blazers-target-trade-talks/2/
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Scalma said:
I hate every single one of those proposals. I’m against attaching a first just to dump Meyers/Moe/Turner a year early.
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I'm only on the 1st one and WTF! Why would we give up a 1st round pick for that and why would the Lakers give up an unprotected future pick? MAYYYYYYYYBE if it was Turner instead of Harkless if the only goal was to get under the tax line again.

The 2nd one isn't terrible if we were a piece away from winning a title which we obviously aren't. I'm not sure why we'd have to give up a future 2nd and Trent. The only two good things about this trade is it frees up two roster spots and we get Biggie off the books next year.

The 3rd one is kind of like the other two combined. I don't know if Bradley makes us that much better and we'd be giving up a 1st. I'd rather take back a similar bad contract (like Miles Plumlee) instead of giving up a 1st. Bradley can't be traded until January 15th anyway. Something like:

LAC gets Lin
Por gets Bradley and Plumlee
Atl gets Harkless, Leonard, and Trent
 
Honest question, why are people so protective of 1st round picks? If it's not in the top 12 or so the chances are you aren't getting much. Even a top 12 pick could turn out to not be much... If you can do something "useful" with a pick I don't understand why keeping it is a big deal. Sure you can get lucky once in a while I guess.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Honest question, why are people so protective of 1st round picks? If it's not in the top 12 or so the chances are you aren't getting much. Even a top 12 pick could turn out to not be much... If you can do something "useful" with a pick I don't understand why keeping it is a big deal. Sure you can get lucky once in a while I guess.
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Because giving up a 1st round pick in a salary dump trade is not useful for two reasons:

1) Portland would still be well above the salary cap.

2) Even if it did generate future cap space, the chances that cap space are used on someone that is better than even a low 1st round pick are most likely slim.
 
hoopsjock said:
Because giving up a 1st round pick in a salary dump trade is not useful for two reasons:

1) Portland would still be well above the salary cap.

2) Even if it did generate future cap space, the chances that cap space are used on someone that is better than even a low 1st round pick are most likely slim.
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I understand those things, I just find it odd how protective people are of our annual 20th pick in the draft, that turns out to be a borderline nba player...
I'd attach like the next 12 first round picks (hyperbole) to get rid of ET tomorrow...
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I understand those things, I just find it odd how protective people are of our annual 20th pick in the draft, that turns out to be a borderline nba player...
I'd attach like the next 12 first round picks (hyperbole) to get rid of ET tomorrow...
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If management really felt that way about ET too, wouldn't it be better to simply waive him and eat his salary next year while keeping our picks? I don't want to do that because then we can't trade his contract next year but I'd rather do that than give up picks.
 
hoopsjock said:
If management really felt that way about ET too, wouldn't it be better to simply waive him and eat his salary next year while keeping our picks? I don't want to do that because then we can't trade his contract next year but I'd rather do that than give up picks.
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Unfortunately management is more like lets keep building around ET that seems good...
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I understand those things, I just find it odd how protective people are of our annual 20th pick in the draft, that turns out to be a borderline nba player...
I'd attach like the next 12 first round picks (hyperbole) to get rid of ET tomorrow...
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No matter how slim there are players drafted after pick 20 in every single draft that turn out to be good players. When you have a pick at least you have a chance to land someone meaningful. If you trade it away you have no chance.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I understand those things, I just find it odd how protective people are of our annual 20th pick in the draft, that turns out to be a borderline nba player...
I'd attach like the next 12 first round picks (hyperbole) to get rid of ET tomorrow...
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Also, I believe in two things regarding draft picks:

1) No matter how good or bad your team is I think it's important to always develop young talent.

2) Making good draft picks improves your treasure chest of trade assets either by trading those guys or making other players moveable.
 
Grizzlies just got Oubre for nothing.

Thanks Neil!
 
First day of possible trades for many players. Who is the first to get moved?
 
Guessing some version of the trade will go through, they’re in too deep. I’m wondering whether or not Washington will scramble to dump Oubre somewhere else. We could absorb him without sending salary back. Don’t know if a couple seconds would be enough though. Maybe throw in Trent or Layman? Lol just kidding I know Olshey isn’t bothered.
 
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