Trade LMA NOW!!! Sign Hickson to a MAX deal pronto!

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I'm a total advocate of moving into the early 20's of this years draft (via buying another pick as we've done in the past, or even a trade) and grabbing Tony Wroten. Kid is dynamic, and has tremendous size, and far more of a natural point then Evans ever was.

This guy would be a real project. No right hand, 58% on free throws and 18% three pointers and has more turnovers than assists. He is only 18 though.
 
This guy would be a real project. No right hand, 58% on free throws and 18% three pointers and has more turnovers than assists. He is only 18 though.

True on all accounts. You can teach shooting though, and as you said he's young and that shot will get better. He is left hand dominant, but still dominated at the college level, as only an 18 year old. He has unteachable skills though, which is what I like. Height, athleticism, court vision, and ability to finish at the basket. You can teach dribbling with the oft hand, and shooting jumpers, you can't teach the ability to drive to the hoop and find the open man. I like him, but he probably should be considered a project.
 
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look at Batum
 
Hickson is a good ballplayer. He definitely has a role with us if we can keep him. We just need to get lucky with the ping pong balls now.
 
POR is a team desperately needing quality bigs, so we perhaps finally find one in JJ and then there is talk of trading our ONLY other quality big who happens to be an all star - just how fukkin stupid is that? (shakes head) In addition I think JJ and LMA's games can complement one another and they could often play together
 
POR is a team desperately needing quality bigs, so we perhaps finally find one in JJ and then there is talk of trading our ONLY other quality big who happens to be an all star - just how fukkin stupid is that? (shakes head) In addition I think JJ and LMA's games can complement one another and they could often play together

That I can agree with.

Although if you are rebuilding, then it wouldn't be fair to Aldridge to use up his prime years for the rebuild. I'm against a full rebuild and actually think we could rebuild very quickly.
 
That I can agree with.

Although if you are rebuilding, then it wouldn't be fair to Aldridge to use up his prime years for the rebuild. I'm against a full rebuild and actually think we could rebuild very quickly.

LMA will be what? 27 soon and he is a skilled PF that frankly does not really too much on athleticism, he's got at least 5 prime years left and should be solid till 34 at least. Batum and Hickson are 23, Ewill is 22 or 23, and we can add a couple players via trade that or FA that fit right into that gropup. LMA IMO fits very nicely with that group IMO
 
Read some of the comments though. Doesn't sound like JJ earned many fans with his play in sacto

Interesting comments. I doubt he played bad on purpose to force his way out of Sac town. I mean Cleveland and Portland are not exactly top destination spots in the NBA. And he played well (so far) in 2 of his 3 places. I am curious to why Petrie would just cut himm intsead of trading him. I wonder how much power he has for that franchise, because he has made some curious moves the last few years. Is he still calling the shots? Would we still want him as a GM?
 
LMA will be what? 27 soon and he is a skilled PF that frankly does not really too much on athleticism, he's got at least 5 prime years left and should be solid till 34 at least. Batum and Hickson are 23, Ewill is 22 or 23, and we can add a couple players via trade that or FA that fit right into that gropup. LMA IMO fits very nicely with that group IMO

What I'd like to know--if Aldridge were answering honestly, would he rather stay in Portland and be part of a 2-year rebuild, or be traded to another team...that also wouldn't be a contender...
 
What I'd like to know--if Aldridge were answering honestly, would he rather stay in Portland and be part of a 2-year rebuild, or be traded to another team...that also wouldn't be a contender...

IMO if we get NJ's pick (4-8) and are smart amd maybe a little luck in the draft and getting FA's or via trades, we could/should next year be a much better team then this year and better then any of the teams we've had the past 5-6 years. We are not that far away if we play our cards right with the FA money and draft picks we have. However, those assets HAVE T) be used very wisely by a skilled GM - do we have that is the big Q?
 
What I'd like to know--if Aldridge were answering honestly, would he rather stay in Portland and be part of a 2-year rebuild, or be traded to another team...that also wouldn't be a contender...

No team Aldridge will be traded to will be a contender, because only rebuilding teams have the pieces that the Blazers would want.
 
No team Aldridge will be traded to will be a contender, because only rebuilding teams have the pieces that the Blazers would want.

My point exactly. People say "he wouldn't want to be part of a rebuild", but what other option is there?
 
Barring getting a REALLY good player back, along the lines of DWill, I don't want to see the team trade LA. Trading your best player seldom turns out to be a good thing.

Seems to me, assuming JJ isn't a flash in the pan, that LA could start at C and JJ at PF. Then upgrade with the draft/FA's for PG/SG/backups. LA/JJ/Nic is a pretty solid front court.

We could get by with Wes at SG, but if Flynn doesn't pan out, the team needs to FINALLY find a PG.

I suggested trading Roy, Joel, Blake and TrOut for Rose/Huges back when Rose was a pup. In hindsight, we would be in a better place now if we had made that trade, even if it wasn't very popular when I posted it. (Trade checkers says it doesn't work now, because the players aren't with the same teams now. It did work at the time.)

http://sportstwo.com/threads/129416-Wild-Ass-Consolidation-Trade-Idea...?highlight=Rose

Definately NOT meant as an 'I told ya so', because the reason I was up for it was that I (foolishly, as it turns out) thought Rudy would become close to Roy in skill. ugh.

Go Blazers
 
Barring getting a REALLY good player back, along the lines of DWill, I don't want to see the team trade LA. Trading your best player seldom turns out to be a good thing.

Seems to me, assuming JJ isn't a flash in the pan, that LA could start at C and JJ at PF. Then upgrade with the draft/FA's for PG/SG/backups. LA/JJ/Nic is a pretty solid front court.

We could get by with Wes at SG, but if Flynn doesn't pan out, the team needs to FINALLY find a PG.

I suggested trading Roy, Joel, Blake and TrOut for Rose/Huges back when Rose was a pup. In hindsight, we would be in a better place now if we had made that trade, even if it wasn't very popular when I posted it. (Trade checkers says it doesn't work now, because the players aren't with the same teams now. It did work at the time.)

http://sportstwo.com/threads/129416-Wild-Ass-Consolidation-Trade-Idea...?highlight=Rose

Definately NOT meant as an 'I told ya so', because the reason I was up for it was that I (foolishly, as it turns out) thought Rudy would become close to Roy in skill. ugh.

Go Blazers

Don't think Chicago would have done it anyways. Hometown kid, #1 overall pick...
 
there is no way chi does that trade after the long process of finally getting a franchise player.
 
There was a legitimate chance Rose would become the best player in basketball, or at least in the discussion. Roy was an outstanding player in his own right, but more in the "top 5 players in the league" discussion. The Bulls would have done that trade if Rose didn't want to play in Chicago and made his feelings known. Given that he didn't, there's zero chance the Bulls would trade him. There's not a package of players around today that the Bulls would trade Rose for, IMO.
 
You'd trade him for Aldridge. You'd be better and we'd be better.
 
I still can't believe we got Hickson for nothing. He is clearly playing for a contract, and doing a good job of it. Once he gets one, maybe he'll pass the ball to an open teammate once in a while. In the meantime, he is Z-Bo light. He would be a great backup for us next season. Trading Aldridge for anything less than an all star would be nuts. We need all the front court help we can get to play with Aldridge: Hickson, Draft Pick, Freeland, all of the above.
 
I still can't believe we got Hickson for nothing. He is clearly playing for a contract, and doing a good job of it. Once he gets one, maybe he'll pass the ball to an open teammate once in a while. In the meantime, he is Z-Bo light. He would be a great backup for us next season. Trading Aldridge for anything less than an all star would be nuts. We need all the front court help we can get to play with Aldridge: Hickson, Draft Pick, Freeland, all of the above.

This dude is way more athletic than ZBO. I've never seen Zach do anything even remotely like what Hickson did TWICE against the Clips. I think Randolph is probably one of the most naturally talented post players I've ever seen, unfortunately he's so lazy and immature that he never fully realized his potential. Sound like anyone else we had on our team?
 
Hickson should start next season with Aldridge and we can pick a center prospect with our first rounder. When that player develops to take over the starting rotation, hickson can be the first big man off the bench (after 4 years). Maybe even freeland is that prospect center.
 
I don't understand all the talk about Freeland... didn't he say he doesn't want to come over? I was under the impression that he was happy where he was.
 
I don't understand all the talk about Freeland... didn't he say he doesn't want to come over? I was under the impression that he was happy where he was.

Now that we have hickson and possibly a high draft pick, freeland is kinda moot IMO. If he comes over than good. If he stays then its not really that big of a deal.
 
Now that we have hickson and possibly a high draft pick, freeland is kinda moot IMO. If he comes over than good. If he stays then its not really that big of a deal.

Hickson has had two good games... let's not get TOO excited just yet. I like the guy a lot, and I hope we keep him, but let's not anoint him the second coming of Jerome Kersey for at least two or three more games ;)
 
Now that we have hickson and possibly a high draft pick, freeland is kinda moot IMO. If he comes over than good. If he stays then its not really that big of a deal.

I don't think it's necessarily a given that we use our high draft pick on a big. If MKG drops a couple spots, or the FO really likes Bradley Beal, then it's very possible that we draft a couple perimeter players.
 
I don't think it's necessarily a given that we use our high draft pick on a big. If MKG drops a couple spots, or the FO really likes Bradley Beal, then it's very possible that we draft a couple perimeter players.

I agree. Unless the big is really special (and healthy) I would hope we start focusing on the skilled players. The guards and Sf's that can score. The rules favor the players who can penetrate and shoot. You are not allowed to touch those guys. The bigs seem to be easier to come by because what they are used for is limited these days.

I would be willing to give up both picks to move up to get a stud guard if the right one was available.
 
I remember a story coming out right when Hickson was traded that it was because he was going to want 10m a year.
I don't think we'll keep him. He is going to get a decent offer (4 years 25m) which will be out of our price range if we sign someone to a max
 

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