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Xericx said:
He's not holding anyone hostage. Pritch is builidng a good, balanced team. Oden is 20 years old and we have all the flexibility on earth. This team is not centered around Oden, although he has the biggest chance to greatly increase our championship odds.

Tell me how Oden is "holding the entire franchise hostage"? That is bunk.

He's 20 years old on a rookie contract. Legit low post defensive and offensive threat, commands double and triple teams. We don't have to "move on" from Oden. It sucks that he's injured but the things I see are rediculous.
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Trading him for pennies on the dollar is ridiculous. "Moving on" is exactly what the team did last season, and I see nothing ridiculous about it. If Greg comes back and contributes, great. If Greg someday becomes the best player on the team, good for him. Until then, this is Roy's and LMA's team.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Trading him for pennies on the dollar is ridiculous. "Moving on" is exactly what the team did last season, and I see nothing ridiculous about it. If Greg comes back and contributes, great. If Greg someday becomes the best player on the team, good for him. Until then, this is Roy's and LMA's team.
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Co-Signed
 
oldmangrouch said:
Trading him for pennies on the dollar is ridiculous. "Moving on" is exactly what the team did last season, and I see nothing ridiculous about it. If Greg comes back and contributes, great. If Greg someday becomes the best player on the team, good for him. Until then, this is Roy's and LMA's team.
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again, we are continuing to build. Its not like we're not getting more talent and trying to figure out chemistry. greg is part of this team.
 
Xericx said:
again, we are continuing to build. Its not like we're not getting more talent and trying to figure out chemistry. greg is part of this team.
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Not right now he isn't.

All people are saying is that you have to move on and play with the team you have, and I think the players and coaches would agree. Cashing it in until Greg returns is the last thing you want to do. Besides the obvious reasons, even when he comes back there's no gaurantee that he'll be back for long. There's always the reasonable possibility that Greg will come back and finish out the year playing well and being a big part of any success we might have, but for now it's wrong to assume that that will happen, given his past. I hope we'll be able to look back and mock posters like me for thinking he's injury prone, but right now to say otherwise strikes me as... funny.

Oden still has incredible upside and a rookie contract, and a lot of time to come back and play well. When people say we need to move on, I take that to mean we need to be realistic about our current situation, not that we should trade him and toss him aside.
 
this is a minor ankle injury that happened within the flow of the game. nothing changes for the long-term future as far as Oden is concerned.

Roy-Oden-Aldridge are the future. Roy-Aldridge are the present. Add Webster and Rudy and Bayless, etc and we still have a great team with a great future.

I'm not worried. just pissed.
 
Xericx said:
this is a minor ankle injury that happened within the flow of the game. nothing changes for the long-term future as far as Oden is concerned.

Roy-Oden-Aldridge are the future. Roy-Aldridge are the present. Add Webster and Rudy and Bayless, etc and we still have a great team with a great future.

I'm not worried. just pissed.
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Webster's option has yet to be picked up by the team. Barring a break-out season, he's going to be a RFA, and if somebody pays him, he's gone.
 
PapaG said:
Webster's option has yet to be picked up by the team. Barring a break-out season, he's going to be a RFA, and if somebody pays him, he's gone.
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I personally think Webster will be an integral part of this team. He adds so much, and is getting better. Again, injured...but he should be good to go too. We have money.
 
Xericx said:
I personally think Webster will be an integral part of this team. He adds so much, and is getting better. Again, injured...but he should be good to go too. We have money.
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It doesn't matter. At this point, it is clear the team is willing to let others bid on him and then decide if he is worth matching.

It's make or break time for Martell in Portland, and if the team viewed him as "integral", he would already be extended outside of his rookie contract.
 
He should be locked up now for cheap IMO. Just like what we did with Outlaw.....his value is low, and he owes us for sucking early on.
 
This is the most batshit crazy thread I've ever read on a board.
 
it's_GO_time said:
Oden's trade value is about as low as it's going to be right now . . . check that . . . it is the lowest it has been to date. Point is, you won't get much for him right now.

Blazers are going to have to ride Oden out and hope this isn't Bowie all over again.
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At least we turned Bowie into Buck Williams!
 
Oden is under a lot of pressure. All the pre-draft info on him, his rehab video clips and blogs, the press when he was at the practice facility just starting to play. I am thinking that he is worried about all the hype surrounding him about what he can do and that he hasn't settled down into a comfortable mindset.

Think about it. Rudy Fernandez has already played under pressure. Hes been in the European league for several years, won some MVP honors and has international game play especially in the Olympics. He already understands his role, his abilities and the basics of game. Hes made a smoother transition because hes not under stress by the press anymore.

Oden has the jitters. He's nervous. Give him time and he will be fine.
 
maxiep said:
This is the most batshit crazy thread I've ever read on a board.
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Unfucking believable. He sprained an ankle and people are ready to dump him and think we couldn't get crap for him. Are you guys serious, pleaaaaaaaaaaaase this is the most ridiculous thread ever. This kid is coming off surgery played three plays and then rolled an ankle. It isn't chronic, it wasn't a knee, he's not out half the year hes out maybe 6-12 games big flipping deal. He is a championship caliber big man. You win titles with big men (Jordan is the exception). Sorry I mean no disrespect for Xerix, just this type of shit pisses me off. We can't jump off the ledge every time something goes wrong. These same things were said about Roy and LMA a year ago. Give him time, there still isn't a team in the league that wouldn't love to have him and give up premier talent to get him.
 
DaRizzle said:
How about Bynum for Oden?


psych!
(had to, im drunk)
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Laker fan thoughts on trading Oden? Is this not the craziest shit you have ever read? You guys should trade Bynum he's started off slow and is coming off major surgery, oh wait you just signed him to a near max contract.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Laker fan thoughts on trading Oden? Is this not the craziest shit you have ever read? You guys should trade Bynum he's started off slow and is coming off major surgery, oh wait you just signed him to a near max contract.
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Well the situation is different. No matter how many of your guys want to belittle Bynum he still has shown he can produce at the NBA level....but yes anyone who even has a notion of jumping off the ship right now with Oden is ridculous for two reasons.

1. Give him a fucking chance
2. As already said, his trade value would be relatively low at this moment in time
 
Some harsh comments about Oden today from David Thorpe (as quoted on TrueHoops).

The gist: first, he no longer believes Oden has superstar potential. Second, he wouldn't let Oden back on the court until he drops around 50 (!) lbs.

While I think the 2nd point is hyperbole - I'm not sure he is totally wrong. Maybe a lighter Greg would be both healthier and more effective.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Unfucking believable. He sprained an ankle and people are ready to dump him and think we couldn't get crap for him. Are you guys serious, pleaaaaaaaaaaaase this is the most ridiculous thread ever. This kid is coming off surgery played three plays and then rolled an ankle. It isn't chronic, it wasn't a knee, he's not out half the year hes out maybe 6-12 games big flipping deal. He is a championship caliber big man. You win titles with big men (Jordan is the exception). Sorry I mean no disrespect for Xerix, just this type of shit pisses me off. We can't jump off the ledge every time something goes wrong. These same things were said about Roy and LMA a year ago. Give him time, there still isn't a team in the league that wouldn't love to have him and give up premier talent to get him.
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No, I'm not serious, but I also think it is foolish to assume that GO has the same trade value right now that he did before the summer of '07. He is damaged goods at this point and hasn't yet proved any tangiible value as a player. I'm not saying he won't, hell, I am hoping he's a Hall of Famer, but at this point, let's stop treating him as some sort of superstar.
 
I wouldn't trade Greg Oden for unlimited group sex with the Pussycat Dolls.
 
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