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Aldridge for Beal, Seraphin, 1st round pick and another player to make contracts match (Okafor)?
 
Aldridge for Beal, Seraphin, 1st round pick and another player to make contracts match (Okafor)?

I wouldnt do it. Seraphin is nothing special, will be a career backup. Not sold on beal, I dont think he is the next ray allen more like the next webster and this draft doesnt have me impressed save for a few players.

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Aldridge for Beal, Seraphin, 1st round pick and another player to make contracts match (Okafor)?

Only if the pick is unprotected, and I doubt Washington would not put protection on the pick.

On another note, why does Washington do that? They're nowhere near contending, with or without Aldridge.
 
sillyness

we get worse, possibly forever

and washington kicks themselves in the nut face
 
Only if the pick is unprotected, and I doubt Washington would not put protection on the pick.

On another note, why does Washington do that? They're nowhere near contending, with or without Aldridge.

Wall, Aldridge and Nene would be a solid core.
 
Seraphin has semi-star potential. Beal has star potential. The first would land us Zeller.

Solid,solid future to go forward with.
 
Nice try anyway.

Aldridge is what he is. A jump shooting big man with touch, but can't be counted on as a #1 option.

A future of:

Lillard
Beal
Batum
Zeller
Leonard

With Seraphin, Hickson and Matthews off the bench could be a great team.
 
Maybe.....

I don't watch the Wizards, but Okafor and Beal's numbers don't look very good. An unprotected pick would be nice though! I'm not sure how well LaMarcus fits in with this team. Lillard, Matthews and Batum are all jump shooters. The Blazers need interior toughness. Hickson would be a solid PF for us, but we need a center. Okafor would be ok till Leonard develops, and we'd get two prospects with Beal and a pick.
 
The Aldridge hating is unbelievable. He does more than just shoot jump shots. He has a post game that ot only produce scores for himself but also for his teammates. He also has been a clutch offensive rebounder in recent games. He is one of the best players in the league. I hope we don't trade him but if we did, you'd regret. His new team would instantly be vastly improved and it'd be Randolph all over again. How come he didn't play like that for us? He did. How is a top 10 scorer in the league not a good number one option? Ugh. His defense is underrated too.
 
Yeah, that's why he wins us so many games.
 
The Aldridge hating is unbelievable. He does more than just shoot jump shots.
You're absolutely right. 1 of every 10 shots is a dunk.

He has a post game that ot only produce scores for himself but also for his teammates.
It's a shame he doesn't like to use it, or his coach isn't letting him use it.

He also has been a clutch offensive rebounder in recent games.
Unfortunately, aside from those 2 OT games, he hasn't been any type of offensive rebounder at all. Including those two monster games, he's #96 in the NBA in ORB%...behind such all-NBA big man talent as Eric Bledsoe, Matt Barnes and Ekpe Udoh.

He is one of the best players in the league.
Gimme a number, Eric. Top 15? Top 20? Top 30?

I hope we don't trade him but if we did, you'd regret.
Maybe. Or maybe you should wait to see what comes back. Did the L*kers regret trading Vlade Divac?

His new team would instantly be vastly improved and it'd be Randolph all over again.
You mean, how the Knicks and Clippers and the first year in MEM were "vastly improved?" Or how we improved 9 games just by trading him, and then made two playoff runs the following years?

How come he didn't play like that for us? He did.
In 2010-11, and 2011-12.

How is a top 10 scorer in the league not a good number one option? Ugh.
If he shot 80 shots a game and averaged 40 points per game doing so, would you say he's the greatest player in the game today? There's your answer.

His defense is underrated too.
Just about every metric of defense and rebounding says that it isn't.
 
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I hope we don't trade him but if we did, you'd regret. His new team would instantly be vastly improved and it'd be Randolph all over again.

To defend Aldridge, you imply that we should have kept Zach instead of him.

<scratches off some dandruff, trying to understand>
 
Maybe. Or maybe you should wait to see what comes back. Did the L*kers regret trading Vlade Divac?

Vlade Divac is not even close to the same talent as LMA. The better question would be was the 76'rs happy when they dealt Chris Webber? Maybe was Sacramento happy that they let Brian Grant walk and go to Portland?

Also, Lakers got Kobe for Vlade. That is a huge improvement obviously. The trade scenarios aren't even bringing back a potential superstar in return. Any deal so far is lopsided to the other team's favor.
 
Brian just dropped knowledge - had to rep that.
 
Aldridge paired with Batum is not a good combo. Both of them are afraid to take it to the paint. So, one needs to go for sure.
 
You're absolutely right. 1 of every 10 shots is a dunk.

It's a shame he doesn't like to use it, or his coach isn't letting him use it.

Unfortunately, aside from those 2 OT games, he hasn't been any type of offensive rebounder at all. Including those two monster games, he's #96 in the NBA in ORB%...behind such all-NBA big man talent as Eric Bledsoe, Matt Barnes and Ekpe Udoh.

Gimme a number, Eric. Top 15? Top 20? Top 30?

Maybe. Or maybe you should wait to see what comes back. Did the L*kers regret trading Vlade Divac?

You mean, how the Knicks and Clippers and the first year in MEM were "vastly improved?" Or how we improved 9 games just by trading him, and then made two playoff runs the following years?

In 2010-11, and 2011-12.

If he shot 80 shots a game and averaged 40 points per game doing so, would you say he's the greatest player in the game today? There's your answer.

Just about every metric of defense and rebounding says that it isn't.

In Summary.........



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Aldridge paired with Batum is not a good combo. Both of them are afraid to take it to the paint. So, one needs to go for sure.

Batum at SG and Aldridge at center would work out great. We need a low post scorer either at SF or PF that can rebound. I think that's our missing piece.
 
Except for defense and rebounding - LMA can't protect the paint and can't rebound. That's not ideal for a C...

You don't have to be a C to protect the rim. A good example of this is Clifford Robinson averaged 1.3 bpg for us in 91-92 (championship contender) Duck only averaged .5. Drexler and Kersey both averaged more than that
 
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Except for defense and rebounding - LMA can't protect the paint and can't rebound. That's not ideal for a C...

Actually he does a much better job with help defense and post defense. In fact; the games I've seen him play center; he rebounds with much better efficiency and tends to be more agressive at the rim.
 
Adding to the above point, this season only 1/2 of the top 20 shot blockers per game are centers
 
Protecting the paint/rim is about more than BPG. I love blocked shots - but they are the "dunk" of the defense...flashy, but not necessarily an indicator. Sound defensive principles are better than blocked shots - especially if your swat sends the ball out of bounds...that just gives the ball back to the opponent with a chance to reset for a better shot.

And mags - you're crazy. LMA is terrible at help/team defense. He's far better (not great, but far better) as a post defender. He's incapable of sliding over to protect the paint - he doesn't understand defensive rotations at all. Occasionally he'll get a weak side block, but he doesn't make sound defensive rotations or understand how to position himself with regards to the ball and other players.
 

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