Trading up?

[Fez Hammersticks]

Canzano, via Sports Sunday, feels the Blazers will be very busy on draft day and will trade up for a PG.

It's a deep class but there are only a few worth trading up for.

-Brandon Jennings: 6'2" PG
-Tyreke Evans: 6'6" Combo
-Ricky Rubio: 6'5" PG
-Jeff Teague: 6'2" PG
-Jrue Holida: 6'4" PG

Mike Barrett and Co. talk about Koponen. Canzano talks about PG's in this draft. It seems like many have written off Bayless as a future starting PG for us.

 

[julius]

Smoke screen.

 

[<-=*PdX*=->]

Smoke screen.

Exactly. With every thing that is said this time of year, I look in the complete opposite direction. Every year since KP has been at the helm this has been the case, and at least in my view, he has gone a way different than I was led to believe.

 

[BlazerBeliever]

Exactly. With every thing that is said this time of year, I look in the complete opposite direction. Every year since KP has been at the helm this has been the case, and at least in my view, he has gone a way different than I was led to believe.

You have never been led to believe we are going to make at least one draft day trade.

 

[cloudydays]

if we do draft a PG, and we aren't high enough to get Jennings/Rubio, I hope we get Maynor

 

[LameR]

Canzano, via Sports Sunday, feels the Blazers will be very busy on draft day and will trade up for a PG.

It's a deep class but there are only a few worth trading up for.

-Brandon Jennings: 6'2" PG
-Tyreke Evans: 6'6" Combo
-Ricky Rubio: 6'5" PG
-Jeff Teague: 6'2" PG
-Jrue Holida: 6'4" PG

Mike Barrett and Co. talk about Koponen. Canzano talks about PG's in this draft. It seems like many have written off Bayless as a future starting PG for us.

Maynor? Lawson? Flynn?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Canzano, via Sports Sunday, feels the Blazers will be very busy on draft day and will trade up for a PG.

It's a deep class but there are only a few worth trading up for.

-Brandon Jennings: 6'2" PG
-Tyreke Evans: 6'6" Combo
-Ricky Rubio: 6'5" PG
-Jeff Teague: 6'2" PG
-Jrue Holida: 6'4" PG

Mike Barrett and Co. talk about Koponen. Canzano talks about PG's in this draft. It seems like many have written off Bayless as a future starting PG for us.

Rubio is not 6'5". He is 6'3.75"

Jrue Holiday is overrated. He didn't even do that well in college.

I would rather have Maynor or Flynn over any of those guys.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Jrue Holiday is overrated. He didn't even do that well in college.

He shot 30% from college three, he averaged 3.7 assists to 2.1 turnovers. Not very impressive.

 

[Boob-No-More]

If we move up, I'd like it to be to 14 or 15 to get DeJuan Blair.

I love Tyreke Evans, and pairing him with Brandon Roy would give the Blazers a huge, athletic back court, but he'll go higher than the Blazers can realistically get without giving too much.

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

Canzano says all kinds of stupid, half-informed, shit. Why would he stop now?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Jrue sounds like an interesting prospect. I found this from theknicksblog.com:

“NBA teams have their opinions already,” he said. “That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a top-10 pick, but they know what they know.”

The top point guards in the draft offer different skills, with several known more for offense. Holiday is seen as a distributor and, despite his occasional struggles at UCLA, a defender.

Thorpe said that NBA executives have told him they consider Holiday to be the best perimeter defender in the draft.

“No one doesn’t need a pass-first guard who can play lock-down defense,” Thorpe said.

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He sounds like he can be a Rondo type.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Jrue sounds like an interesting prospect. I found this from theknicksblog.com:



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He sounds like he can be a Rondo type.

If you can tolerate developing him for 2 or 3 years he could be fine, but he's only 18 and he did not have a great year at UCLA. He sounds like the kind of kid who needs to go to a team with lots of development time and low expectations for team success, not the kind of player who is going to thrive buried 3rd on the depth chart and unable to get on the court in real game situations with a contender.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

If we can land a starting PG (ie. Andre Miller) we can develop Jrue (or Jerryd?) slowly.

Miller/Blake/Holiday

Chad Ford did say Jrue measured 6'4", he's only 18 so he could still be growing. But to say he's the best perimeter defender in the draft as an 18 y/o guard, that's saying a lot. He has the tools to become a very good player.

 

[LameR]

If we can land a starting PG (ie. Andre Miller) we can develop Jrue (or Jerryd?) slowly.

Miller/Blake/Holiday

Chad Ford did say Jrue measured 6'4", he's only 18 so he could still be growing. But to say he's the best perimeter defender in the draft as an 18 y/o guard, that's saying a lot. He has the tools to become a very good player.

I don't see us keeping Blake if we got Miller.

 

[Mediocre Man]

My opinion is that the Blazers will move up in the draft, and then use that pick to land an expensive player that fills a need at PG or SF

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I sort of agree with MM. We'll move up by trading a player like Outlaw, snag a good PG and let them develop behind Blake. At the same time, it may be that bayless develops as well.

 

[Wheels]

On the players mentioned.. it makes me happy that Maynor wasnt mentioned.. (so youre saying there's a chance!!!)

 

[Nikolokolus]

My opinion is that the Blazers will move up in the draft, and then use that pick to land an expensive player that fills a need at PG or SF

That sounds likely

I sort of agree with MM. We'll move up by trading a player like Outlaw, snag a good PG and let them develop behind Blake. At the same time, it may be that bayless develops as well.

This not so much (developing two young point guards simultaneously doesn't seem to work so well).

Development time is rapidly coming to a close with this team. That's not to say you don't pick up players to develop and slot them behind established veterans who own a starting spot, but this notion that Steve Blake is just going to be a placeholder starter for a year or two while some young point guard tries (and maybe fails) to develop just seems awfully unlikely to me.

I didn't think this a few weeks ago, but I'm more and more convinced that we'll see not only Sergio moved this off-season, but possibly Jerryd moved too, in an effort to trade for a point guard that you can point to and say "that's our starter", with Blake as the primary backup ... but I wouldn't be shocked to see a guard like Eric Maynor, Jrue Holliday, Darren Collison, et al. (a pass-first guy with some defensive chops) acquired and molded over the next year or so to be able to eventually step in as either the primary backup or as a possible starter a year or two after that.

I know I've at times been a big proponent of trying to see what Bayless turns into, but the more I think about, the more I suspect he'll probably need to go to a team that can give him the floor time to develop -- that means more than likely going to a team seeking a young guard where he'll be able to play and make mistakes without fearing an early hook. Frankly, I see his opportunities here being very limited as this team moves forward into its contention window.

 

[Nikolokolus]

On the players mentioned.. it makes me happy that Maynor wasnt mentioned.. (so youre saying there's a chance!!!)

I'm not sure I follow. You don't like Maynor?

 

[Boise Blazer]

I'm not sure I follow. You don't like Maynor?

Correct me if Im wrong BW but are you referring to a smokescreen by the Blazers mngmnt?

 

[Wheels]

I'm not sure I follow. You don't like Maynor?

sorry.. the fact that he's not mentioned is good to me, cause you dont just throw out there who you like this early. I love Maynor.

 

[Wheels]

Correct me if Im wrong BW but are you referring to a smokescreen by the Blazers mngmnt?

exactly. sorry I didnt explain more.. it is still morning afterall lol.

 

[Nikolokolus]

sorry.. the fact that he's not mentioned is good to me, cause you dont just throw out there who you like this early. I love Maynor.

Ah gotcha. I think he's got some potential, but with such a weak draft I keep wondering if I'm subconsciously pumping him (and a few other guys) up to be more than what he really is. Good thing it's in the hands of professional scouts and talent evaluators like Mike Born, Chad Buchanan, and KP and not me.

 

[Wheels]

Ah gotcha. I think he's got some potential, but with such a weak draft I keep wondering if I'm subconsciously pumping him (and a few other guys) up to be more than what he really is. Good thing it's in the hands of professional scouts and talent evaluators like Mike Born, Chad Buchanan, and KP and not me.

lol exactly. And I agree on most accounts. I dont think he will be our starter but I do view him as someone who will be a hell of a backup for a while for us and maybe for longer. Who can be a spot starter, but a really good backup. But yes I'm glad its not on our hands lol, if it was sentimentality could play a big part in keeping players here.

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

Anyone but Rubio. We don't need any more Euro softies, thank you very much.

 

[BrianFromWA]

A guy whose passing has been compared to Magic Johnson and who has "defense" listed under his strengths. You're right...forget adding guys like that.

Let's get rid of Rudy and Batum also...who cares about talent, we don't want "Euro softies"

 

[hasoos]

It's easy to get caught up in the draft hype and think things are going to happen. This years draft stinks, and I see no reason to move up, and because of that, I don't see any reason the Blazers moving up. If the Blazers make a trade on draft day or around there, it will be to get an experienced player coming back, not a draft pick IMO.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Maynor? Lawson? Flynn?

Lawson or Flynn would be a fantastic additions to this team. I could see them both as targets.

 

[cloudydays]

sorry.. the fact that he's not mentioned is good to me, cause you dont just throw out there who you like this early. I love Maynor.

Great minds think alike. I think Maynor is the closest thing to Roy in this draft, (think a Roy/Sergio combo).

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

A guy whose passing has been compared to Magic Johnson and who has "defense" listed under his strengths. You're right...forget adding guys like that.

Let's get rid of Rudy and Batum also...who cares about talent, we don't want "Euro softies"

Yep, I'll stand by what I said. What this team needs is a hard nosed physical presence, someone that can grab a freaking defensive rebound in a close playoff game , someone who can make the other team think twice about going into the paint; not another flashy Euro player who is going to have some highlight reel plays but isn't a lockdown defender. Besides, being noted for something in the Euro leauge is different from the NBA. I mean, look at Rudy-in Euro he was a guy who was fearless going to the rim, and did it often. Here he's mainly a 3point specialtist, thats how the physical nature of the NBA changes a players MO. I have nothing against Euro players obviously, I think that Batum and Rudy are great additions to this team.