Trading up?

[Wheels]

Great minds think alike. I think Maynor is the closest thing to Roy in this draft, (think a Roy/Sergio combo).

I could see that. But like a poor mans version obviously.

 

[BrianFromWA]

physical nature of the NBA, or team schemes changing what Rudy did? He seemed to be pretty fearless playing against the physical NBA Olympic team.

My contention is that we desperately need a PG upgrade, and even the best PG probably isn't going to get tough defensive rebounds or lay people out in the paint. So I'm confused about that part of the statement. Would Jon Brockman be good for this team? I wholeheartedly say "Yes!" But what's a PG going to do? I can't find any scouting report that says Rubio's team D isn't a "strength". And what does "flashy" have to do with it if it gets the job done? I don't see anyone telling Blake to stop throwing Roy back-door alley-oops (on the contrary, I wish he'd do it more, and especially on the fast break). What I do see is that we have 2 or 3 pretty unstoppable bigs on the pick-and-pop and P&R. (Joel's always done well on the roll). We don't have a guard that plays much who can execute it. That's another of Rubio's strengths. Whether or not he's flashy, soft, skinny, ugly, whatever...if he's a better defender and distributor (especially in the P&R), we should be aggressively exploring how to get him.

If you had said "no more soft Bargnani/Dirk shooter-PFs", I'd tend to agree with you.

 

[Wheels]

physical nature of the NBA, or team schemes changing what Rudy did? He seemed to be pretty fearless playing against the physical NBA Olympic team.

My contention is that we desperately need a PG upgrade, and even the best PG probably isn't going to get tough defensive rebounds or lay people out in the paint. So I'm confused about that part of the statement. Would Jon Brockman be good for this team? I wholeheartedly say "Yes!" But what's a PG going to do? I can't find any scouting report that says Rubio's team D isn't a "strength". And what does "flashy" have to do with it if it gets the job done? I don't see anyone telling Blake to stop throwing Roy back-door alley-oops (on the contrary, I wish he'd do it more, and especially on the fast break). What I do see is that we have 2 or 3 pretty unstoppable bigs on the pick-and-pop and P&R. (Joel's always done well on the roll). We don't have a guard that plays much who can execute it. That's another of Rubio's strengths. Whether or not he's flashy, soft, skinny, ugly, whatever...if he's a better defender and distributor (especially in the P&R), we should be aggressively exploring how to get him.

If you had said "no more soft Bargnani/Dirk shooter-PFs", I'd tend to agree with you.

F John Brockman

 

[cloudydays]

I could see that. But like a poor mans version obviously.

Well yeah but Poor Man's Roy and Rich Man's Sergio combination lol

 

[BrianFromWA]

F John Brockman

Care to elaborate? B/c he's a Husky?

http://950kjr.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=mitchinthemorning.xml If you have ~25 min or so, check out the Brockman podcast from 5-15. It's like he drank Brandon Roy's Stepford Player Juice.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Great minds think alike. I think Maynor is the closest thing to Roy in this draft, (think a Roy/Sergio combo).

I'm trying to envision what a Roy-Sergio combo looks like?

It's hurting my brain

 

[BrianFromWA]

I think it's like the episode from House yesterday...he'd be wanting to slow it down and walk it upcourt for an Iso (Roy), when the right side of his brain would subconsciously make him start running and dribbling in circles and he wouldn't know why.

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

physical nature of the NBA, or team schemes changing what Rudy did? He seemed to be pretty fearless playing against the physical NBA Olympic team.

My contention is that we desperately need a PG upgrade, and even the best PG probably isn't going to get tough defensive rebounds or lay people out in the paint. So I'm confused about that part of the statement. Would Jon Brockman be good for this team? I wholeheartedly say "Yes!" But what's a PG going to do? I can't find any scouting report that says Rubio's team D isn't a "strength". And what does "flashy" have to do with it if it gets the job done? I don't see anyone telling Blake to stop throwing Roy back-door alley-oops (on the contrary, I wish he'd do it more, and especially on the fast break). What I do see is that we have 2 or 3 pretty unstoppable bigs on the pick-and-pop and P&R. (Joel's always done well on the roll). We don't have a guard that plays much who can execute it. That's another of Rubio's strengths. Whether or not he's flashy, soft, skinny, ugly, whatever...if he's a better defender and distributor (especially in the P&R), we should be aggressively exploring how to get him.

If you had said "no more soft Bargnani/Dirk shooter-PFs", I'd tend to agree with you.

No, what I meant was that we don't need to draft Rubio at all-the price would be too high to get him, and he wouldn't help out this team as much as a DeJuan Blair type. We need a physical backup PF, and a good veteran PG would perhaps be the key to putting us over the top this year waaay more than a 18 YO point guard. Nothing wrong with flashy play, we just need more of a physical presence on this team.

 

[cloudydays]

I'm trying to envision what a Roy-Sergio combo looks like?

It's hurting my brain

STRENGTHS:
- Ability to play at different speeds
- Craftiness
- Executes offensively
- Floater
- Mid-range game
- Mix between scoring/passing
- Pick and roll play
- Transition play
- True point guard
- Ability to create w/either hand
- Change of gears/Hesitation moves
- Ability to get in passing lanes
- Basketball IQ
- Body language
- Clutch
- Confidence
- Experience
- Mental toughness
- Winning mentality
- Ability to create for others
- Court vision
- Passing skills
- 3-point range
- Ability to shoot off the dribble
WEAKNESSES:
- Out of control at times
- Shot-selection
- Turnover prone
- Ability to defend position at next level?
- Commitment to playing defense
- Defensive fundamentals
- Lateral quickness
- Ability to finish around basket
- Average athleticism
- Average wingspan
- Strength
- 3-point shooting percentages
- Inconsistent shooter

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

physical nature of the NBA, or team schemes changing what Rudy did? He seemed to be pretty fearless playing against the physical NBA Olympic team.


If you had said "no more soft Bargnani/Dirk shooter-PFs", I'd tend to agree with you.

Yeah, but that was for 2 games. Its different when you play 82 games, and get knocked around a lot more going to the hoop.

Couldn't agree with you more on the Bargnani issue.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I'm trying to envision what a Roy-Sergio combo looks like?

It's hurting my brain

A guy who dribbles a lot, hits game winning shots, plays horrible defense half the time, thows lob passes and commits costly turnovers?

BNM