Rumor Trail Blazers players getting frustrated with Chauncey Billups coaching style?

[TBpup]

Who knows if Chauncey is a good coach.

Dame isn't close to what he was last season due to his injury.
CJ has been out.
The roster knows this version of itself is played.
Zeller predictably has already been hurt (twice)
RoCo seems checked out a large majority of the time.

In passed years, a healthy Dame could overcome the rest of those. Now that he is a little hampered, you see the difference. Just one or two more made shots from Dame would have change a LOT of games.

 

[julius]

Who knows if Chauncey is a good coach.

Dame isn't close to what he was last season due to his injury.
CJ has been out.
The roster knows this version of itself is played.
Zeller predictably has already been hurt (twice)
RoCo seems checked out a large majority of the time.

In passed years, a healthy Dame could overcome the rest of those. Now that he is a little hampered, you see the difference. Just one or two more made shots from Dame would have change a LOT of games.

It shows 100% just how much the team and Stotts over relied on Damian. Without him, the team is horrific. With him barely playing at his normal level, the team is horrific.

 

[wizenheimer]

It shows 100% just how much the team and Stotts over relied on Damian. Without him, the team is horrific. With him barely playing at his normal level, the team is horrific.

and yet, there are several posters here shitting on him in every game thread because he isn't carrying the team this season

 

[julius]

and yet, there are several posters here shitting on him in every game thread because he isn't carrying the team this season

I don't think it's that he's not carrying the team, it's that he has almost been a detriment to the team. His play has been awful. He's shooting the worst he's ever shot. His effective FG% is by far the lowest, and his 3 point fg% is significantly worse than before. His ORtg and DRtg are the worst of his career too.

 

[Wade Garrett]

Popovich or Phil Jackson are two of the greatest coaches in the history of basketball, and guess what, they were both assholes, and we need a asshole who is hard on the players because they are soft pussys

Calling Gregg Popovic an "asshole" proves you know little about him.
Now, I've never met Phil Jackson, but a nicer famous person than Coach Pop is hard to find.
Believe me.

 

[Chris Craig]

Calling Gregg Popovic an "asshole" proves you know little about him.

He's more classy than that

He's a whole ass

 

[THE HCP]

It shows 100% just how much the team and Stotts over relied on Damian. Without him, the team is horrific. With him barely playing at his normal level, the team is horrific.

I was actually going to go the other way and say how impressive it was in the past that in spite of all the injuries we always had, we were still able to win games and make the playoffs.

 

[TBpup]

and yet, there are several posters here shitting on him in every game thread because he isn't carrying the team this season

Maybe some are, but it seems like much of the criticism has been when he shooting brick city style and continues to gun away while a teammate(s) are having much better shooting nights, but get significantly less shots.

In his last 6 games, Dame is 38-114...a woeful 33% from the field. Meanwhile, many teammates were having much better shooting games, but not getting nearly as many shots.

That is what is frustrating.....and has been with MeJ for years.

 

[tester551]

Maybe some are, but it seems like much of the criticism has been when he shooting brick city style and continues to gun away while a teammate(s) are having much better shooting nights, but get significantly less shots.

In his last 6 games, Dame is 38-114...a woeful 33% from the field. Meanwhile, many teammates were having much better shooting games, but not getting nearly as many shots.

That is what is frustrating.....and has been with MeJ for years.

This is true.
Dame has always taken a large number of very difficult shots. Many times its a result of poor shot selection when there is a pass available for a teammate to take a higher percentage shot.
This gets old quick...

 

[wizenheimer]

Maybe some are, but it seems like much of the criticism has been when he shooting brick city style and continues to gun away while a teammate(s) are having much better shooting nights, but get significantly less shots.

In his last 6 games, Dame is 38-114...a woeful 33% from the field. Meanwhile, many teammates were having much better shooting games, but not getting nearly as many shots.

That is what is frustrating.....and has been with MeJ for years.

I get that

what I'm saying is that in some minds here a couple dozen bad games this season cancels 9 seasons of what Dame has done for the team

 

[TBpup]

I get that

what I'm saying is that in some minds here a couple dozen bad games this season cancels 9 seasons of what Dame has done for the team

Yeah....probably not productive to even try and have a discussion with those people.

 

[Haakzilla]

https://theundefeated.com/features/...ups-and-damian-lillard-forging-a-partnership/

Said Lillard: “I’m in [Billups’] office regularly. We’re like, ‘How do we do this? What do you want to see?’ I’m asking him, ‘What can I do to help myself? What do you see that can do better?’ We are having these conversations face to face, but you have people on the outside that want so bad for there to be drama.” Billups said his meetings with Lillard have led to more plays for Blazers center Jusuf Nurkic, thus opening up the offense for the guards. The head coach said through his talks in those meetings, he has also changed up the plays to make the offense “more comfortable” for Lillard and CJ McCollum.

...totally unrelated to the OP here, but I think it interesting that Lillard is labeled to have an elite BBIQ along with Billups -- and maybe this deserves its own thread too @Rastapopoulos? -- but I've never got the sense that his BBIQ was "elite" I can't be the only one thinking this?

 

[blazerkor]

...totally unrelated to the OP here, but I think it interesting that Lillard is labeled to have an elite BBIQ along with Billups -- and maybe this deserves its own thread too @Rastapopoulos? -- but I've never got the sense that his BBIQ was "elite" I can't be the only one thinking this?

Dame's BBIQ on the offensive end is high. He tends to play hero ball after hitting teammates who are wide open, going to the hoop, under the hoop or open from three and watching them blow what he had made easy for him. Calling his own number has worked in the past and it's likely to work again. Right now his shot isn't falling but he has supreme confidence that it will again so he's using the old adage that shooters shoot through a slump.

The only thing I've ever thought Dame had a problem with mentally was denial of the negative. He denies that his teammates don't fit with him or aren't that good and this season he's denied that he's too injured to be effective. That denial has been instrumental in him overcoming the odds so I don't really hold it against him and think that we need people above him to trade away the players that he won't accept aren't right around him and make him sit or even get surgery.

 

[illmatic99]

...totally unrelated to the OP here, but I think it interesting that Lillard is labeled to have an elite BBIQ along with Billups -- and maybe this deserves its own thread too @Rastapopoulos? -- but I've never got the sense that his BBIQ was "elite" I can't be the only one thinking this?

prior to this season, i feel like dame could manipulate and read defenses better than anyone this side of chris paul. he's also consistently been the best P&R PG in the league before this year. takes a lot of IQ to get to that level given his size limitations, offensively anyway.

 

[riverman]

prior to this season, i feel like dame could manipulate and read defenses better than anyone this side of chris paul. he's also consistently been the best P&R PG in the league before this year. takes a lot of IQ to get to that level given his size limitations, offensively anyway.

So why aren't we using the pick and roll under Chauncey much?

 

[illmatic99]

So why aren't we using the pick and roll under Chauncey much?

it's a good question. Chauncey has admitted that while our offense was very potent, it was also very predictable. Also, Dame's shot is in the tank to start the season-- completely reduces his effectiveness as a P&R pg when teams aren't selling out to fight over picks to guard him.

 

[riverman]

it's a good question. Chauncey has admitted that while our offense was very potent, it was also very predictable. Also, Dame's shot is in the tank to start the season-- completely reduces his effectiveness as a P&R pg when teams aren't selling out to fight over picks to guard him.

My thought is we're turning over the ball trying to pass in traffic and then hesitate to thread the needle after so many bad passes....our passes don't have much zip on them

 

[stampedehero]

Watch this: When the season is over and if we don't make a playoff berth, most of you will want him fired.