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PtldPlatypus said:
this line caused a question to come to my mind, and I apologize if it comes off as disrespectful, but I've got to ask.

How does the trans community view the notion of species dysphoria in relation to gender dysphoria? Is the former considered less valid than the latter? Or is someone who legitimately self-identifies as a dog to be treated and accepted as such comparably to how you are to be as a woman?
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Species dysphoria is known to be a 4-chan troll to attempt to delegitimize trans people but as far as bog standard furries go we're pretty supportive of them in general.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
Actually I wasn't wrong. To say that the only thing the military does is war is not accurate or factual. Marazul is trying to turn it into some strange touchy feely insult to our military and that is wrong and rude. To say that the men and women who serve in our military are only good for war is an insult to their brave and honorable service for our country and when called upon, the world.

God Bless America.
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No, you're wrong.

The only mission is war.

If there's no military personnel available to help with disaster relief (because they're all occupied with their actual mission of war) and the president utilizes the IRS to go pick up dead bodies, that does not mean that a mission of the IRS is humanitarian efforts.
 
Of course it's a key mission for the United States.

It's not a mission of the military though.

Keep spinning and failing.
 
The president can tell the military to do whatever he wants.

If the president has the military start mowing everyone's lawns, that does not mean the a mission of the military, is to mow lawns.
 
Nate said:
Of course it's a key mission for the United States.

It's not a mission of the military though.

Keep spinning and failing.
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That quote is from an article by the military saying that is a key mission.

It also provided examples.
 
The Coast Guard is one of the branches of the US military.

The only mission is clearly not war.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That quote is from an article by the military saying that is a key mission.

It also provided examples.
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It's a key mission of the United States.

Not the military.

Humanitarian efforts get in the way of the actual mission. Which is to prep for war, and go to war.

But like I said, it could be argued that war is a humanitarian effort. I'm sure Jewish people think so.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The Coast Guard is one of the branches of the US military.

The only mission is clearly not war.
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Wrong again.

They are part of the department of transportation.
 
Nate said:
Wrong again.

They are part of the department of transportation.
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Sorry man, the Coast Guard is considered part of the US Armed Forces.

It is part of the dept of Homeland Security.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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The Marine Corps is a department of the navy.

The coast guard used to be part of the department of treasury, then department of transportation, then (I forgot) department of homeland security. During war time, it can be switched to be a department of the navy. It's not a branch of the military though.

So its the army, Air Force, and navy.
 
Formed in 1915 by the merger of the Revenue Cutter Service (est. 1790) and the Lifesaving Service (est. 1848), and later absorbing other federal agencies, the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) is a military service, a law enforcement agency, and regulatory agency. It is one of the seven uniformed services of the United States and one of the five services of the United States Armed Forces. Its role includes enforcement of U.S. maritime law, coastal defense, search and rescue, environmental protection, and regulation of maritime industries.[27]

During peacetime the USCG falls under the administration of the United States Department of Homeland Security (previously the U.S. Department of Transportation, 1967–2003, and the United States Department of the Treasury, 1915–1967). During wartime, the USCG may, at the direction of the President of the United States, report to the Secretary of the Navy; its resources, however, are integrated into U.S. military operations in wartime (see 14 U.S.C. §§ 3–4).
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Looks like they used to fall under the Department of Transportation. Not since 2003, though. They are one of the five services of the United States Armed Forces, though.
 
And they only put the coast guard under the department of homeland security, because of 9/11.

Probably had something to do with money.
 
Minstrel said:
Looks like they used to fall under the Department of Transportation. Not since 2003, though. They are one of the five services of the United States Armed Forces, though.
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Nate said:
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I can see why you identify so strongly with Trump. Both of you are unable to read (allegedly in Trump's case).

And before you attempt the classic "Wikipedia lol" move, here it is from the Coast Guard's own website:

The U.S. Coast Guard is one of five branches of the US Armed Forces, and falls under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.​

Link

You should e-mail your picture to them, not us.
 
Nate said:
The Marine Corps is a department of the navy.

The coast guard used to be part of the department of treasury, then department of transportation, then (I forgot) department of homeland security. During war time, it can be switched to be a department of the navy. It's not a branch of the military though.

So its the army, Air Force, and navy.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces
 
Minstrel said:
I can see why you identify so strongly with Trump. Both of you are unable to read (allegedly in Trump's case).

And before you attempt the classic "Wikipedia lol" move, here it is from the Coast Guard's own website:

The U.S. Coast Guard is one of five branches of the US Armed Forces, and falls under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.​

Link

You should e-mail your picture to them, not us.
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Well since the Marine Corps isn't a branch of the military. You are, again, wait for it....

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Nate said:
Well since the Marine Corps isn't a branch of the military. You are, again, wait for it....

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I know it's hard to admit you were wrong, pumpkin. It's painful to be humiliated on the Internet by some lame "look-it-up" types.
 
Minstrel said:
I know it's hard to admit you were wrong, pumpkin. It's painful to be humiliated on the Internet by some lame "look-it-up" types.
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I know it's hard to be humiliated by someone who's actually done something with their life. But the Marine Corps is a department of the navy. It's not a branch of the military. Nor is the coast guard. Eat a dick. Maybe a trans Dick that was chopped off?
 
Nate said:
I know it's hard to be humiliated by someone who's actually done something with their life. But the Marine Corps is a department of the navy. It's not a branch of the military. Nor is the coast guard. Eat a dick. Maybe a trans Dick that was chopped off?
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You really should be telling all this to Rear Admiral James M. Heinz, the director of the Coast Guard. It's their website that identifies them as one of the five branches of the armed services. The "eat a trans dick" thing will probably be initially confusing to him, because he won't have any idea why you're filled with impotent rage over this issue.
 
Female infantry officer: http://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/04/27/meet-the-army-s-first-female-infantry-officer/

Female rangers: http://www.businessinsider.com/first-women-to-earn-army-ranger-tab-2015-8

Nate is so great at insults (actually he is pretty crappy on insults) but real short on facts. His "facts" boil down to "I SAID SO!!!!"

And changing the subject of course.

Meanwhile, to no one's surprise, Trump lied when he said he consulted with military leaders. He consulted with right wing antigay organizations. The Secretary of Defense was not notified and taken by surprise. The heads of the military were not notified. General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said yesterday (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...irman-says-transgender-policy-wont-change-yet) there will be no change in military policy.
There will be no modifications to the current policy until the President's direction has been received by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary has issued implementation guidance.
In the meantime, we will continue to treat all of our personnel with respect. As importantly, given the current fight and the challenges we face, we will all remain focused on accomplishing our assigned missions.
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Never thought I'd see the day when the Pentagon and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff were the ones defending civil rights. But I guess that, unlike Trump, they ARE focused on "the mission" and are not going to just throw away thousands of skilled and experienced personnel.
 
Nate said:
I know it's hard to be humiliated by someone who's actually done something with their life. But the Marine Corps is a department of the navy. It's not a branch of the military. Nor is the coast guard. Eat a dick. Maybe a trans Dick that was chopped off?
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Hahahahahshshshshahshahahahahah this shit is gold before it gets edited
 
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