TRob a Free Agent?

[Blazer4ever]

I thought he is a free agent and didn't hear he signed with anyone.
Bring him back, yes or no?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

We have absolutely no need or spot for him.

 

[Strenuus]

There's a reason he hasn't been signed.

There's a reason you're not a gm.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Festus, Plumlee
Meyers, TRob

Awesome big men rotation

 

[Orion Bailey]

Festus, Plumlee
Meyers, TRob

Awesome big men rotation

I see three guys with little to no outside or medium range shot at all. Festus might have the best mid range of Plums Trob and himself.

Thas ugly. Sorry. Rather have VOnleh in that spot. Rather have Aminu in that spot. Rather have Davis in that spot...not for better shooting, but better decision making.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I see three guys with little to no outside or medium range shot at all. Festus might have the best mid range of Plums Trob and himself.

Thas ugly. Sorry. Rather have VOnleh in that spot. Rather have Aminu in that spot. Rather have Davis in that spot...not for better shooting, but better decision making.

With TRob you get more explosiveness, better rebounding, more points in the paint, better defense afainst opposing bigs...

 

[Orion Bailey]

With TRob you get more explosiveness, better rebounding, more points in the paint, better defense afainst opposing bigs...

How do you figure we get better rebounding and points in the paint?

Ed davis...7.4 rebounds and 6.5 pts in 20.8 minutes last year

TROB...5.1 rebounds and 4.3 pts in 12.9 minutes a game.

Almost a wash.

But here is what you are missing.

Ed Davis .8 T/O per game in 20.8 minutes per.

TROB 1.0 T/O per game in 12.9 minutes per.

Sorry. Trob and his Blockhead has no place on this team full of intelligent players. And I say that, loving certain aspects of his game. If Meyers had his drive and effort he would become an all star. But the NBA doesn't forgive continual boneheads decisions like Trob is prone to do.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm going to borrow an NFL scouting term, "million dollar body and a ten cent brain."

 

[Trackjack]

I believe we got better players that plays the same position.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

There are too many players in the front court right now to bring T-Rob back. Maybe if the blazers do a consolidation trade T-Rob maybe could come back.

 

[Orion Bailey]

There are too many players in the front court right now to bring T-Rob back. Maybe if the blazers do a consolidation trade T-Rob maybe could come back.

Sure lets get rid of better players than Trob so we can bring him back.

So lets revert back to two years ago when we had a stellar lineup and no bench (Trob was part of the bench). Sorry. Still not a viable option if we are looking at becoming a better team, consolidation trade or not.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm going to borrow an NFL scouting term, "million dollar body and a ten cent brain."

Opposite of Stephen Hawking. The body works great, the brain not so much.

 

[Denny Crane]

I liked him when he was here, but I don't think he adds enough to warrant losing one of our existing front court players to make room for him.

He'd almost certainly be end of the bench here, which seems to be the role he's earned in the NBA.

If Neil signed him, it would not be a horrible move.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Sure lets get rid of better players than Trob so we can bring him back.

So lets revert back to two years ago when we had a stellar lineup and no bench (Trob was part of the bench). Sorry. Still not a viable option if we are looking at becoming a better team, consolidation trade or not.

Only Festus, Plumlee and Meyers are better than TRob

 

[Blazer4ever]

Also, he may seem unintelligent but he plays smart on defense, he's a very good rebounder and on offense he's a better inside threat than probably anyone we have. It isn't NASA, we're looking for basketball players

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Ed Davis is a far better player than TRob at this point. But these threads from you are par for the course I suppose....

 

[Minstrel]

Only Festus, Plumlee and Meyers are better than TRob

Ed Davis is better too. The two players are pretty equivalent defensively and on the boards, but Davis is a much better pick-and-roll finisher. Robinson is really poor offensively.

 

[Scalma]

Trob sucks. He thinks he's a star and blames everyone else for holding him back. If he would just accept who he is(junkyard dog) he could maybe develop into something, but he needs to grow up first.

 

[Denny Crane]

Which of these teams would you prefer he sign with?

Dallas Mavericks, Minnesota Timberwolves, New Orleans Pelicans and San Antonio Spurs.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Only Festus, Plumlee and Meyers are better than TRob

Also, he may seem unintelligent but he plays smart on defense, he's a very good rebounder and on offense he's a better inside threat than probably anyone we have. It isn't NASA, we're looking for basketball players

How can you still think this after I posted his stats for you compared to Davis? Are you blind to reality?

Losing Cred, IMO...

 

[Denny Crane]

IMO, there's no comparison. I'd much rather have Ed Davis playing minutes than TRob.

That said, TRob does fit the profile of the kind of player NO has added to the team. Young, lotto pick, potential untapped.

 

[Orion Bailey]

IMO, there's no comparison. I'd much rather have Ed Davis playing minutes than TRob.

That said, TRob does fit the profile of the kind of player NO has added to the team. Young, lotto pick, potential untapped.

Totally agree. up until this point.

Totally untapped? HE has had many opportunities with several teams and has failed to crack a regular rotation with any of them. I think his potential is what he is. A top tier effort guy who makes too many dumb decisions. The moment he loses a step, his effort will equate to be no more of an impact than any other average player in the NBA. Combine that with his skull and he will be gone in 3-5 years. Until that time, Id rather give that 12th roster spot to a Vonleh or Alexander or someone who hasnt had the opportunities/shows way more promise...

 

[Boob-No-More]

With TRob you get more explosiveness

Yes, both good and bad. He get's a put back dunk or chase down block that makes the highlights a couple times a year, but for every good play he loses his man on defense, commits a stupid foul and makes a boneheaded unforced turnover.

better rebounding, more points in the paint, better defense against opposing bigs...

Ed Davis is better in every one of these areas. Ed's biggest weakness is FT shooting, and again, he's way better than TRob. And, for a guy who dunks a lot, TRob has a terrible FG% for a power forward.

Orion already showed Ed Davis just as good at rebounding, but look at these shooting percentages:

TRob:
FG% = .447
FT% = .431
TS% = .453

Ed Davis:
FG% = .611
FT% = .559
TS% = .616

Davis shoots the ball better, has a lower usage rate, turns the ball over less and commits fewer fouls. Davis even has a slightly better BLK% than TRob. Davis is a better defender and a much better, more efficient scorer.

And TRob is not a good defender, He's terrible. He constantly loses his man on defense and gives up way too many easy baskets.

From 82games.com:

TRob:
Own Production = 16.1
Opponents Production = 21.9
Net Production = -5.7

Ed Davis:
Own Production = 21.0
Opponents Production = 19.1
Net Production = +1.9

TRob is a net negative (by a lot) and Ed Davis is a net positive.

None of DEN, PHI and now BRK, three of the worst teams in the league, wanted this guy back. SAC, HOU and POR also passed on him. He makes an occasional spectacular play, but overall, his negatives far, far outweigh his positives.

BNM

 

[Denny Crane]

Totally agree. up until this point.

Totally untapped? HE has had many opportunities with several teams and has failed to crack a regular rotation with any of them. I think his potential is what he is. A top tier effort guy who makes too many dumb decisions. The moment he loses a step, his effort will equate to be no more of an impact than any other average player in the NBA. Combine that with his skull and he will be gone in 3-5 years. Until that time, Id rather give that 12th roster spot to a Vonleh or Alexander or someone who hasnt had the opportunities/shows way more promise...

I don't think his performance has been terrible. It just doesn't live up to what is expected of a #5 draft pick.

Given 36 MPG, he may well average a double double.

EDIT: maybe at 24MPG he averages a double double, too

 

[Natebishop3]

Trob played very well at the end of last season, which leads me to believe that he is asking for too much money right now or the nets would have re-signed him. It's the same reason why harkless isn't a blazer right now.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Yes, both good and bad. He get's a put back dunk or chase down block that makes the highlights a couple times a year, but for every good play he loses his man on defense, commits a stupid foul and makes a boneheaded unforced turnover.



Ed Davis is better in every one of these areas. Ed's biggest weakness is FT shooting, and again, he's way better than TRob. And, for a guy who dunks a lot, TRob has a terrible FG% for a power forward.

Orion already showed Ed Davis just as good at rebounding, but look at these shooting percentages:

TRob:
FG% = .447
FT% = .431
TS% = .453

Ed Davis:
FG% = .611
FT% = .559
TS% = .616

Davis shoots the ball better, has a lower usage rate, turns the ball over less and commits fewer fouls. Davis even has a slightly better BLK% than TRob. Davis is a better defender and a much better, more efficient scorer.

And TRob is not a good defender, He's terrible. He constantly loses his man on defense and gives up way too many easy baskets.

From 82games.com:

TRob:
Own Production = 16.1
Opponents Production = 21.9
Net Production = -5.7

Ed Davis:
Own Production = 21.0
Opponents Production = 19.1
Net Production = +1.9

TRob is a net negative (by a lot) and Ed Davis is a net positive.

None of DEN, PHI and now BRK, three of the worst teams in the league, wanted this guy back. SAC, HOU and POR also passed on him. He makes an occasional spectacular play, but overall, his negatives far, far outweigh his positives.

BNM

I don't think his performance has been terrible. It just doesn't live up to what is expected of a #5 draft pick.

Given 36 MPG, he may well average a double double.

EDIT: maybe at 24MPG he averages a double double, too

Would you like the opportunity to edit your post based off of BNM's (Awesomeness) even more in depth look?

 

[Boob-No-More]

I don't think his performance has been terrible. It just doesn't live up to what is expected of a #5 draft pick.

Given 36 MPG, he may well average a double double.

EDIT: maybe at 24MPG he averages a double double, too

In terms of net impact, he has been terrible. He shoots terrible percentages from both the line and the floor and constantly loses his man on defense. There is a reason bad teams in desperate need of young talent keep giving up on this guy. He's the kind of guy that might get you 12 and 10 if you play him 36 minutes, but the problem is he'd give up 20 and 12.

BNM

 

[Denny Crane]

IMO, there's no comparison. I'd much rather have Ed Davis playing minutes than TRob.

That said, TRob does fit the profile of the kind of player NO has added to the team. Young, lotto pick, potential untapped.

Would you like the opportunity to edit your post based off of BNM's (Awesomeness) even more in depth look?

No.

 

[Denny Crane]

In terms of net impact, he has been terrible. He shoots terrible percentages from both the line and the floor and constantly loses his man on defense. There is a reason bad teams in desperate need of young talent keep giving up on this guy. He's the kind of guy that might get you 12 and 10 if you play him 36 minutes, but the problem is he'd give up 20 and 12.

BNM

NB3 said it best.

Trob played very well at the end of last season, which leads me to believe that he is asking for too much money right now or the nets would have re-signed him. It's the same reason why harkless isn't a blazer right now.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Trob played very well at the end of last season, which leads me to believe that he is asking for too much money right now or the nets would have re-signed him. It's the same reason why harkless isn't a blazer right now.

It depends on how you define "playing well". Yeah, he got his points and rebounds. The problem is, he did so very inefficiently (high usage rate, very low shooting percentages) and, as usual gave up more than he produced (negative net production).

Given his consistent net negative production, he is really in no position to be making any salary demands. He'll be lucky to be on an NBA roster next season. He might get more money playing someplace like China where his athletic advantage may make up for the other glaring flaws in his game.

BNM