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So Trump wants to pardon himself and his family\friends\co conspirators and is once again trying to derail an investigation against him. Get this idiot out of office.
 
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Spicer just resigned.....they're falling like dominos....Trump's head lawyer just quit....looks like the stands are emptying halfway through the first qtr in DC
 
Another point - a presidential pardon only covers federal crimes, so an individual can still be prosecuted by a state. It also does not cover civil actions.
 
First six months agenda: look into legalities of pardoning self, all of one's associates.

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The Russians are letting his administration bleed like a stuck pig. After this is completely revealed, I'll bet Sessions resigns. Spicer was smart to get put of this BS when he could.
 
Trump has declared full pardon power...he needs to be removed from the White House
 
crandc said:
He has full power to pardon himself for things he said he never did but that would not be a crime if he had done them.
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Yes! Finally you understand. He's totally innocent and will have a pardon to prove it.
 
"While all agree the U.S. President has the complete power to pardon, why think of that when only crime so far is LEAKS against us. FAKE NEWS,"
 
very soon we'll be bombarded with tweets about fakeprosecutors...sad....sic
 
Denny Crane said:
LEAKS against us. FAKE NEWS
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against us? c'mon......if the white house can't handle extreme vetting, the citizens of the country just might...Trump obviously isn't very good at building a team that we can trust by any stretch of the imagination.....The president is supposed to work for us, not against us......if you don't see him selling out our standing around the globe, you're not paying attention. So far he's touted Putin and Xi Jinping.....two leaders who gained power under communist rule....then the Saudi Royal Family ......if these are our allies going forward......things have turned upside down...FAKENEWS is not an explanation.....what we have is a FAKEPRESIDENT.....unqualified, undignified and a guy who for his own popularity will go after anyone questioning him or his policies......what the fuck has Trump actually done? So far he's killed off my families healthcare plan come 2018...back to the drawing board......
 
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riverman said:
against us? c'mon......if the white house can't handle extreme vetting, the citizens of the country just might...Trump obviously isn't very good at building a team..
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Ironic that the leaks of the most honorable candidate and the DNC proved them to be angels.
 
Denny Crane said:
Ironic that the leaks of the most honorable candidate and the DNC proved them to be angels.
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Last time I looked the Democratic party was completely out of power in DC.......and I have no idea who your "honorable candidate" is......the worst player on a good team is still a bad player.
 
from your leak article....included a number of sordid allegations about the president's sexual proclivities.
From that fox news link.....now you realize that Trump is the same guy who said his celebrity comes with pussy grabbing privilege......no basis in sexual allegations eh?
 
riverman said:
Last time I looked the Democratic party was completely out of power in DC.......and I have no idea who your "honorable candidate" is......the worst player on a good team is still a bad player.
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The nature of how the Russians interfered in the election is dubious in the first place, and way overstated if true. The DNC didn't stand up to scrutiny. Funny thing is Trump STILL would beat Clinton.

Then there's the dog kind of citing RT and other Russian sources that have puny readerships in the US. It's hard to see how they could shape public opinion, twitter bots and the like notwithstanding.

On top of all that, there's this absurd view of how Russia works. Everyone is tied to the government! Putin gives direct orders to everyone.

(Not!).
 
riverman said:
from your leak article....included a number of sordid allegations about the president's sexual proclivities.
From that fox news link.....now you realize that Trump is the same guy who said his celebrity comes with pussy grabbing privilege......no basis in sexual allegations eh?
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No basis in fact. Just something YOU want to believe.

I'm objective about it. Show me PROOF the Russian dossier has any truth to it. Haven't seen one shred of proof. With all the time and media bias incentive, and media cash, and man power/hours, not a shred of proof.
 
Denny Crane said:
Just something YOU want to believe
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I heard Trump say what I alluded to....proof enough? I'm not asking to lock up Trump for crimes....He's blatant about his character...you are correct...he's not tied to Russia personally other than asking them to help him with Clinton's emails.....but he's irresponsibly denied the concern within his own camp for self preservation from what I see....his cabinet has been chaotic from the start...maybe that's YOUR thing....
 
riverman said:
I heard Trump say what I alluded to....proof enough? I'm not asking to lock up Trump for crimes....He's blatant about his character...you are correct...he's not tied to Russia personally other than asking them to help him with Clinton's emails.....but he's irresponsibly denied the concern within his own camp for self preservation from what I see....his cabinet has been chaotic from the start...maybe that's YOUR thing....
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If Trump had actually hired "the best" people for the jobs in his cabinet\administration, people with actual experience, then maybe he wouldn't be knee deep in horsehit about now.
 
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riverman said:
I heard Trump say what I alluded to....proof enough? I'm not asking to lock up Trump for crimes....He's blatant about his character...you are correct...he's not tied to Russia personally other than asking them to help him with Clinton's emails.....but he's irresponsibly denied the concern within his own camp for self preservation from what I see....his cabinet has been chaotic from the start...maybe that's YOUR thing....
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He wasn't asking Russia for help with Clinton's emails. He was making a dig against the obstruction of justice embodied in their bleach bit destruction.

The Russians never had those emails. Some collusion!
 
riverman said:
I don't think it's absurd at all....Putin has a track record that speaks for itself...
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Well, he did pwn Obama.

But it's more reasonable to expect that Russia is poor, spends heavily on inferior military equipment, and is utterly corrupt. Closer to a 3rd world country.

Our federal budget is ~4x Russia's entire GDP. Brazil has a bigger GDP.
 
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