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...I still chuckle about the omni-present reference to record numbers of voters turning out...last time I checked because of a growing population there are now more people who are eligible to vote than ever before...common sense and simple math actually.

...I also don't recall ever saying exactly when the Trump train would derail...but I am always amused by reading another swing and miss in vain...cheap but yet predictable entertainment.
 
so its been established, when someone speaks the truth about Chump, they're either whining, crying, stamping their feet, or just asshole's with "only their opinion", which is a helluva lot larger than Chump supporter's realize....

One who cries for the extinction of the GOP is not a Patriot, they're degenerates or in other words, Chumppanzee's...Trumptards....!!!

With time comes change, but not Chump change. Change will evolve and always has...the very argument b/t Marx/Western Minds....obvious we gotta' Marxist (confused) believer in the room....and without a Diploma....lmao, ... still swinging at shadows...

I get this visceral of one with a bag over head, flailing away endlessly at the ghosts in their dreams...keep up the Chump pom poms, it will be his own supporter's who disown voting for him in years to come, but......they're too blind to see....off the cliff go ye'-

Chump, Clinton are no different than adding Sander's to the shit fest pile-
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If Our Forefather's were looking on, they'd swear Red-coats infiltrated this nation, within the GOP-
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so its been established, when someone speaks the truth about Chump, they're either whining, crying, stamping their feet, or just asshole's with "only their opinion", which is a helluva lot larger than Chump supporter's realize....


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So there we have it------> in your own words you say someone's opinion is "the truth"....except the opinions you disagree with.
Yes indeed, I DID SAY Hugh Hewitt (or anyone else) has both an asshole AND an opinion.
Including me....and you.
Here are my exact words regarding Hewitt used in post #1201 which you have referred to.
"and of course this is just his opinion, and just like an asshole, everyone has one- including Hughey."

Jeez, the least you can do is read the statement and wording accurately....c'mon now, pay attention and try not to let emotions get the best of you.

And I also DID say (same post #1201):
"Looks to me as if this guy is crying and stamping his little feet"...
Aw, so sorry I said this about Hughey.

Lol, do you actually behave like this with "the guys" at the local bowling alley, pub or job?

Sensitive.



Its pretty obvious THIS is also part of the reasons I disagree with Hewitt.
The guy - IMO - is both acting childish and misguided in believing a different nominee chosen as a result of last minute rule changes and disregarding the people's vote will actually beat Hillary.
That's MY opinion- I could be wrong, I could be right......and I also happen to believe IMO my opinion has more merit.
You disagree. Good for you.
We aren't going to change each other's minds.


Oh, one last thing just for clarification purposes- when you call Trump a "chump".....
Where I came from, a "chump" is a guy who is a pushover and easily taken advantage of.
What planet did you say you were from? lol
Keep up the good work.


 
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yankeesince59 said:
..."it's a madhouse".
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with the blind leading the blind, the illiterate trying to teach others how to read.........."the lunatic is on the grass"; but not in this head....

as One sings, or tries too:
"We are the goon squad and we're coming to town, beep-beep-"

"It's big and it's bland
full of tension and fear
They do it over there but we don't do it here."
 
Mattingly23NY said:
...^^^
with the blind leading the blind, the illiterate trying to teach others how to read.........."the lunatic is on the grass"; but not in this head....

as One sings, or tries too:
"We are the goon squad and we're coming to town, beep-beep-"

"It's big and it's bland
full of tension and fear
They do it over there but we don't do it here."
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You're not trying to impress me with your superior intelligence are you? :morningtime:
 
Mattingly23NY said:
....^^^
excellent read

one who claims not to be a racist publicly, usually IS a bigot, lying racist...kinda' like when they tell you its not about the money...!

good quote from Stuart Stevens: “This is a sick guy, and Americans are not longing for a president who’s going to go out and use ethnic slurs against people,” he said. “It’s amusing in the same way telling dirty jokes around a frat house can get laughs, but most people grow out of that. It’s childish.”

I find Chump's remark racists against any one with Indian heritage/bloodlines, I know 59 has some "Cherokee" is it??? My own French Canadien heritage is mixed with Miq'mak-Iriquois,
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Mattingly23NY said:
....^^^
excellent read

one who claims not to be a racist publicly, usually IS a bigot, lying racist...kinda' like when they tell you its not about the money...!

good quote from Stuart Stevens: “This is a sick guy, and Americans are not longing for a president who’s going to go out and use ethnic slurs against people,” he said. “It’s amusing in the same way telling dirty jokes around a frat house can get laughs, but most people grow out of that. It’s childish.”

I find Chump's remark racists against any one with Indian heritage/bloodlines, I know 59 has some "Cherokee" is it??? My own French Canadien heritage is mixed with Miq'mak-Iriquois, ...

typical ignorance is all Chump can utter about- (He know's nothing of Politics), and this is another exhibition, of how little he's qualified for a job in Politics, let alone POTUS, maybe take a cheap shot at running for Atlantic City Mayor, better yet dump him in Newark, let him clean that mess up....but, he can't, couldn't if he tried...

Chump's no different than a black man wearing his pants around his knee's, how, he exposes his ass/mouth in public for attention, the more controversy, the merrier this moron is....as are those who vividly, ignorantly support Him, nothing different, than what time has shown us with Adolf...

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Stuart Stevens said...........lmao
Who gives a shit what Stuart Stevens said.
He's part of the nearly soon to be extinct "GOP Establishment" as we know it.
Eventually, they'll either be tossed out on their asses, or the Democrat leftwing "Progressives" will solidify their power and put the Republican Establishment out to pasture and onto the scrap heap of history.
lol

The people are catching on to the Paul Ryans, Mitt Romneys, Mitch McConnells and the rest of the putrid lame Republican Establishment who are tone deaf and incapable of communicating to average Americans and WERE/ARE in control as the country is slowly bleeding to death on the world stage and internally.

So sorry everyone doesn't agree with you.


More high minded sophisticated holier than thou bullshit is the answer...ding dong, more cowbell!

Pocahontas...?
Oh my goodness....I'm outraged.
 
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not sure how else to solve this issue when considering "due process". we can't pull an FDR and stick the muslims in internment camps. Once we let people into the US, they start reaping the benefits of our society. We can't just start limiting rights and freedoms for immigrants, we have to rather limit immigration in the first place.

sorry but the door should only open to someone willing to demonstrate their commitment to assimilation. additional scrutiny on muslims is prudent given the radicalization movement within that culture. one way to do this is limit immigration to specific occupations that fill a need in our society. families aren't automatically included. second, birth on US soil shouldn't equate to citizenship, that must also include overt steps and intent to be Americans. otherwise the rule of law will never work.
 
totus44 said:
not sure how else to solve this issue when considering "due process". we can't pull an FDR and stick the muslims in internment camps. Once we let people into the US, they start reaping the benefits of our society. We can't just start limiting rights and freedoms for immigrants, we have to rather limit immigration in the first place.

sorry but the door should only open to someone willing to demonstrate their commitment to assimilation. additional scrutiny on muslims is prudent given the radicalization movement within that culture. one way to do this is limit immigration to specific occupations that fill a need in our society. families aren't automatically included. second, birth on US soil shouldn't equate to citizenship, that must also include overt steps and intent to be Americans. otherwise the rule of law will never work.
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The so-called record number of "votes" as a proportion of eligible voters goes to George W Bush in 2004. Sorry D-man. And W did it with registered GOP only, none of this open primary crap where we let DEM's troll the polls to hand the GOP the only fucktard that can't beat Hillary.

Saw an interesting tweet:


Matthew Poster– ‏@Matthew_Poster
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@JonahNRO all the rules committee needs to do is require the nominee to release his tax returns. Trump will drop out rather than be exposed
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totus44 said:
The so-called record number of "votes" as a proportion of eligible voters goes to George W Bush in 2004. Sorry D-man. And W did it with registered GOP only, none of this open primary crap where we let DEM's troll the polls to hand the GOP the only fucktard that can't beat Hillary.
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Saw an interesting tweet:


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@JonahNRO all the rules committee needs to do is require the nominee to release his tax returns. Trump will drop out rather than be exposed
1:58 PM - 18 Jun 2016
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...Tote, the other thing that makes me laugh when the sheep point to Trump getting 24 million votes as if it's some great achievement...but the fact is that with the US population increasing every year there are proportionately also more eligible voters every 4 years.

...also, 24 million votes is a drop in the bucket compared to the 125 million votes cast in the 2012 election.



...it's laughable actually...but on a different level it's sad to think that so many people are so easily led.
 
The Self-Immolation of the Republican Party
Column: How the GOP lit itself on fire

BY: Matthew Continetti
June 17, 2016 5:00 am

A great article, that more than defines Trumptardian Politics, and His Trumptard Supporter's.....


The Darwin Awards is a popular website that “commemorates individuals who protect our gene pool by making the ultimate sacrifice of their own lives. Darwin Award winners eliminate themselves in an extraordinarily idiotic manner, thereby improving our species’ chances of long-term survival.” I’d like to nominate a certain political party for one. It should win hands down.


The competition is tough. “All human races, cultures, and socioeconomic groups are eligible,” according to the contest rules. Though these rules do not specifically mention political institutions, the Republican Party, founded in 1854, meets the criteria for entry. No doubt about it.


Its story is true—as much a part of our reality as the sky and the stars. The voters that make up the party are, as the rules stipulate, “capable of sound judgment.” By supporting the least qualified, least knowledgeable, most unsuited major-party nominee for president in history, they are engaged in an “astounding misapplication of judgment.” Every week that Donald Trump remains the Republican nominee, the party comes closer to removing itself from the presidential gene pool. Self-selection is at work here. Trump’s supporters are choosing their party’s demise.


Want proof? Alan Abramowitz, a political scientist at Emory University, built a model that has correctly predicted presidential elections since 1992. The model says the GOP is set to win the presidency this year, 51 percent to 49 percent. But Abramowitz says to ignore his findings, not because they are wrong but because they describe an election that is not actually taking place. “The model is based on the assumption that the parties are going to nominate mainstream candidates who will be able to unite the party, and that the outcome will be similar to a generic vote, a generic presidential vote for a generic Democratic versus a generic Republican.”


Translation: If Republican voters had nominated a typical candidate, a governor or former governor who had won office in a big state by straddling the center and the right, that man would be ahead of Hillary Clinton right now. But instead the voters went for Trump, who has never run for nor held office, dodged the draft, and spent the last year insulting Mexicans, P.O.W.s, women, the disabled, Muslims, you name it, while saying George W. Bush lied us into war with Iraq and implying Ted Cruz’s dad had a hand in the Kennedy assassination. Then there was the part where he bragged about his genitals before ranting that he would order soldiers to commit war crimes and “If I say do it, they’re going to do it.” This week he cast the troops in Iraq as thieves, threw his support behind an unconstitutional proposal to deny Second Amendment rights to citizens on the no fly list, invited Kim Jong Un to Washington, hinted that President Obama supported ISIS, denied press credentials to the Washington Post after the paper reported this insinuation, and then turned around and tweeted that a Breitbart.com article proved he was right about Obama all along.


This is not a good man. This is not a stable man. It is in the self-interest of no rational person to have him near the situation room. So it does not come as a surprise to see support for Donald Trump collapsing in the Real Clear Politics poll average. Hillary Clinton now leads him by about six points. His unfavorable rating in the ABC News / Washington Post poll is up to 70 percent, a record high. The election isn’t until November 8. Where will Trump’s unfavorable rating be then? 85 percent? 90? He’ll make the record books all right—as the most reviled nominee in U.S. history.


A majority of voters told CBS that Hillary Clinton would win the presidency. An analysis of 11 battleground states conducted by Politico has Clinton winning 8 of them. The GOP as a whole has a favorable rating of only 32 percent, the lowest number since Bloomberg started polling in 2009. Maryland governor Larry Hogan, one of the most popular officials in the country, said he would not vote for the nominee of his party. The Reuters poll has the Democrats leading the Republicans in the congressional generic ballot by 11 points. In recent days Trump has hired a pollster for indigo-blue New York and traveled to Georgia, Texas, and Arizona, even though Ohio, Virginia, and Florida will decide the election. Next week Trump plans to travel to Scotland—not to meet with foreign dignitaries but to reopen one of his golf resorts. He knows nothing, has done nothing but promote himself for 30 years, and deserves nothing. And he’s not going to change. Seventy year olds do not change.


Four years ago I wrote that the summer of an election year is when campaigns define their opponents. In 2012, Barack Obama’s campaign transformed Mitt Romney from a mild-mannered technocrat into a soulless tool of capital. On Thursday Clinton began her television campaign against Trump, spending millions of dollars in swing states that will define the New York real estate developer as a risk to the nation’s economy and security, a misogynist and bigot, an ignoramus and doofus. She won’t be wrong.


What is most remarkable is that the television advertising is beside the point. It is Donald Trump who has done the Democrats’ work for them, defining himself in the most negative terms through an unending series of inane, ludicrous, and deranged comments. It’s not the media, the party elite, the Democrats sabotaging Donald Trump. It’s Trump. This is self-immolation on an epic scale.


Trump and his supporters overstate his competitiveness by conflating the wishes of the Republican primary electorate with those of the general electorate. Trump will replicate his success, they say, by continuing to do the things that won him the Republican nomination: “telling it like it is,” accepting “the mantle of anger,” not being “politically correct.” This is a huge error. Not only do Trump’s utterances repel Democratic voters—a number of which any successful candidate has to win—but they also frighten Republican ones. Romney got 47 percent of the vote in 2012. To use a real-estate metaphor: How do you expect to build a skyscraper when you are demolishing the foundation?


Trump supporters will tell me that I am paying too much attention to the polls, even though they fetishized the same polls throughout the primary. They are wrong. Any serious campaign analyst looks at the polls. It is mid-June, Clinton has had a consistent lead that is beginning to widen. What is likely to change the trajectory of this race? The terror attack in Florida did not change it. Whatever bounce Trump gets from the convention will dissipate by October. The debate—and there may be only one—is unlikely to move the needle in his direction. He’ll probably be able to hold himself together for about 35 minutes, then the moderator or Clinton will say something and he’ll let himself go, ranting about Monica Lewinsky and how Mitt Romney is a choke artist and all the people Hillary has murdered. And when we are in late October, and Trump is still behind, his supporters will dismiss the polls as skewed, as phony. And when Trump loses, his cheerleaders in talk radio and on the Internet won’t accept a smidgen of responsibility, but will blame the neocons and the media and the Republican establishment for not doing more to help a lunatic become president.


It’s a joke. All of it: his candidacy, the apparatus of propaganda and grift surrounding it, the failures of governance and education and culture that have brought us to this place. What disturbs me most is the prospect that Donald Trump is what a very large number of Republican voters want: not a wonk, not an orator, not a statesman, not even a leader, really, if by leader you mean someone who persuades and inspires and manages a team to pursue a common good. They just want a man who vents their anger at targets above and below their status.


How cathartic it is to give voice to your fury, to wallow in self-righteousness, in helplessness, in self-serving self-pity. It’s what one expects of teenagers, artists, bloggers, pajama boys—immature, peevish, radical, self-destructive behavior. If that is how Republican voters would like to end their days, in a defensive posture of suspicion and loathing of this big crazy wonderful country that has made them literally the wealthiest and most entitled generation of human beings in the history of the world, well, that’s their right as Americans, I suppose. Best of luck. The Darwin Award will be ready for you November 9.

This entry was posted in Columns and tagged 2016 Election, Donald Trump, Republican Party.

http://freebeacon.com/columns/self-immolation-republican-party/
 
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"Translation: If Republican voters had nominated a typical candidate, a governor or former governor who had won office in a big state by straddling the center and the right, that man would be ahead of Hillary Clinton right now."



...bingo.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I've always thought George Will was a very sharp individual anyway, but he's spot on here;


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Bullseye...


So if he doesn't have a get out the vote mechanism, what does he have? What he has is crowds. And like a real amateur in politics, he seems to confuse the enthusiasm of the crowds in front of him at the moment in the high school auditorium with the larger electorate. Whereas in fact crowds are definitionally not a representative selection of the American people.
 
^^^If Trump doesn't wake the fuck up he could end up losing by one of the biggest landslides ever in November....hell, for that matter he still needs to be concerned with having the nomination taken away from him.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
more lies, that never end....

and=

this line from Biden has me falling out of my chair-

"Joe Biden warns that Trump seems to be trying to radicalize all Muslims".
WARNS he's trying, how about IS radicalizing Muslim's, or hitting a bee's hive, hornet nest....
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...evidently, Trump and his minions believe he can simply insult his way to The White House.
 
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