Trump: Bernie Sanders wants to tax 'you people' at 90 percent

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
magnifier661 said:
Again... You are not understanding what "bipartisan" means. They would not be "at war" with each other if they are "bipartisan" they would be in agreement and working together to achieve a common goal. You keep describing "partisan" actions like "government shutdown" and "civil war," which is NOT and I REPEAT NOT "Bipartisan actions".

So let me ask you again... Do you really believe this government has been "weakened" when both parties are "bipartisan?"
Click to expand...

Riverman admitted in the post you quoted that he meant partisan..
 
donkiez said:
omg that would be so awesome, I hope he also promises hand jobs and butterfly kisses. Then Im totally voting for him.
Click to expand...

I think he basically is promising lots of things he can't deliver on the money he claims he'll raise.

There isn't enough money.
 
donkiez said:
The proposed payroll tax is 0.2% and intended to fund family time off. He is also proposing to remove the payroll tax cap for earners of 117k. This would raise the average $50k earners payroll taxes from $3100 to $3200. Not exactly the gotcha moment you were going for, but you are correct in that it is a tax increase.
Click to expand...


Regardless of the "amount", again, taxes are still being raised. When does it stop? I for one, don't feel like I want to pay more because some other 'family' needs "time off". Go earn money yourself and work hard if you want "family time off".
 
The taxation trend has been to eliminate taxes on the lower income earners. Reagan cut 6M taxpayers off the tax rolls alone.

It's gotten to the point where more than half pay no federal income tax at all.

The "rich" aren't going to be soaked for much more revenue. They simply won't take a pay check. Many CEOs don't already. And the guy with the biggest income last year (made $150M+) had a $3M salary and the rest was unrealized/untaxable income. Bill Gates made a $1M salary his last year(s) at Microsoft. Tax him the whole thing, he wouldn't mind, and it won't get you much.

Heck, take his entire net worth and it would run the government for a day or two. And then there won't be anything left to take from him.

So if the intent is to really generate revenues to pay for "free" stuff, you have to tax the masses. No way around it.
 
blue32 said:
Regardless of the "amount", again, taxes are still being raised. When does it stop? I for one, don't feel like I want to pay more because some other 'family' needs "time off". Go earn money yourself and work hard if you want "family time off".
Click to expand...

What about maternity and bonding leave? I think a lot of people here agree that the destruction of the family unit is causing the downfall of our country.... should people just work through the birthing process also?
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Sounds like every politician who ever ran for office in my 61 years of life.....
Click to expand...

If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you want to keep your insurance, you can keep your insurance.

That's how it really works. Lies.
 
donkiez said:
What about maternity and bonding leave? I think a lot of people here agree that the destruction of the family unit is causing the downfall of our country.... should people just work through the birthing process also?
Click to expand...

Take good care of that tiny new tax payer.
 
donkiez said:
What about maternity and bonding leave? I think a lot of people here agree that the destruction of the family unit is causing the downfall of our country.... should people just work through the birthing process also?
Click to expand...

Some already pay for that now, with FMLA. And family planning should include saving money for your newborn and family "time off" IMO

And most often, men (in a family) take advantage of that too when they could be earning a wage.

Finally, often times people get pregnant when they are not ready to have a family. That shouldn't be on the rest of the citizens to assist.

Edit: my opinions only. :-)
 
blue32 said:
Some already pay for that now, with FMLA. And family planning should include saving money for your newborn and family "time off" IMO

And most often, men (in a family) take advantage of that too when they could be earning a wage.

Finally, often times people get pregnant when they are not ready to have a family. That shouldn't be on the rest of the citizens to assist.
Click to expand...

If the company has PTO, you can take that concurrent with the leave.
 
blue32 said:
Some already pay for that now, with FMLA. And family planning should include saving money for your newborn and family "time off" IMO

And most often, men (in a family) take advantage of that too when they could be earning a wage.

Finally, often times people get pregnant when they are not ready to have a family. That shouldn't be on the rest of the citizens to assist.
Click to expand...

Coulda, woulda shoulda. If only everybody got pregnant when it was best for them to do so...... and if they did get an unwanted pregnancy, if only there was a health service to help them take care of that, or a family service to help them have the child......
 
donkiez said:
Coulda, woulda shoulda. If only everybody got pregnant when it was best for them to do so...... and if they did get an unwanted pregnancy, if only there was a health service to help them take care of that, or a family service to help them have the child......
Click to expand...

I hear you. But that shouldn't be a burden to the rest of the citizens. Ya know? We're all free, so why should we have to pay for others unplanned/unwanted oops?
 
Sure there might be costs (i.e. the premium for filling with a temp which is often more expensive than the person doing the job), but I thought the suggestion was that taxes were funding this. I don't see how, unless you want to just call it a hidden tax to a company that would have fired the employee who took time off for FMLA and now can't because of FMLA.
 
Sedatedfork said:
Sure there might be costs (i.e. the premium for filling with a temp which is often more expensive than the person doing the job), but I thought the suggestion was that taxes were funding this. I don't see how, unless you want to just call it a hidden tax to a company that would have fired the employee who took time off for FMLA and now can't because of FMLA.
Click to expand...

I don't think Sanders' idea is to help the company pay for anything.
 
I guess my point is. People should take responsibility for themselves and their families and not expect government hand outs; with that said, I also think I shouldn't have to pay more taxes because Bern wants to create free college/healthcare for people.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Riverman admitted in the post you quoted that he meant partisan..
Click to expand...
And??? He meant it from the beginning. Why? Because he still talked shit about parties not agreeing, which wasn't the case. He thinks "bipartisan" doesn't exist
 
blue32 said:
I guess my point is. People should take responsibility for themselves and their families and not expect government hand outs; with that said, I also think I shouldn't have to pay more taxes because Bern wants to create free college/healthcare for people.
Click to expand...
That's true freedom. If people are fine without being free, then by all means, keep voting for politicians that keep adding more socialized programs.

Personally, I like freedom
 
Bullshit, but it's ok mags..have a dig at my expense..Republicans and Democrats squabbling is the norm in Congress and Washington..you've posted about it yourself in the past. Two parties...lobbying for power...yeah..we know, we understand, it's failed us....move on
 
riverman said:
Bullshit, but it's ok mags..have a dig at my expense..bipartisan squabbling is the norm in Congress and Washington..you've posted about it yourself in the past. Two parties...lobbying for power...yeah..we know, we understand, it's failed us....move on
Click to expand...
The parties fail the people. They work for us! They have been bipartisan for decades. They segregate against the people that elect them.
 
blue32 said:
I hear you. But that shouldn't be a burden to the rest of the citizens. Ya know? We're all free, so why should we have to pay for others unplanned/unwanted oops?
Click to expand...

I totally agree in theory, you made your bed type of thing. The problem, as I see it, is that they are people and often products of their environment. Hopeless breeds hopeless. I dont want to encourage reckless behavior, but I do think if we dont do something we will be paying for it in other ways, like prisons and crime. I feel like we cant afford not to invest in the future of our country, in the terms of health care and education. Get healthy, get smart, get working.
 
donkiez said:
I totally agree in theory, you made your bed type of thing. The problem, as I see it, is that they are people and often products of their environment. Hopeless breeds hopeless. I dont want to encourage reckless behavior, but I do think if we dont do something we will be paying for it in other ways, like prisons and crime. I feel like we cant afford not to invest in the future of our country, in the terms of health care and education. Get healthy, get smart, get working.
Click to expand...
I think every American wants this. However, I do believe there has to be a better way to achieve this than giving the government even more control and regulation over it.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I think every American wants this. However, I do believe there has to be a better way to achieve this than giving the government even more control and regulation over it.
Click to expand...
True freedom is without being oppressed by regulation and policies. I understand we must have some sort of social program, but every inch you give, they will ask for more. Before you know it, you look back and realize they've taken a mile.
 
magnifier661 said:
True freedom is without being oppressed by regulation and policies. I understand we must have some sort of social program, but every inch you give, they will ask for more. Before you know it, you look back and realize they've taken a mile.
Click to expand...

Hahahahahahaha! Funny, complete bullshit yet very entertaining. 8/10, would read again.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top