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Clinton got a BJ in the oval office from an intern. To my knowledge Trump has not done that.

Exactly my point. Trump is a real alpha male, he wouldn't stop at just a BJ, he would do the humpty hump in the Lincoln bedroom while having Pence stand in the corner humming America the Beautiful.
 
Exactly my point. Trump is a real alpha male, he wouldn't stop at just a BJ, he would do the humpty hump in the Lincoln bedroom while having Pence stand in the corner humming America the Beautiful.

I kind of doubt that given Pence's moral background.
 
Yeah lets get out there and burn shit down and put bike locks in socks and hit nazis with it!!!! that's real change!!
Maybe you should slow down and actually read....and try to actually understand what’s being posted. You jump around like a fart in a skillet. Who the fuck said ANYTHING in the referenced post about burning shit down and hitting Nazis with bike locks????? Jeezus kid, go get a hug or something. At the bare minimum please try to stay on track as far as the actual conversation goes.......you’re giving the rest of us mental whiplash.....
 
And your comment perfectly underlines where and how far we’ve come as Americans....and even humans. We should care dammit! Years ago during the 60’s, when Reagan was on the rise and threw his hat in the ring for president (Nixon got the nomination) my mother (a Republican) made the comment that she could never vote for Reagan because he was divorced (and even though she thought Nixon was truly shady). Even as a 12 year old I thought that was a bit excessive and asked her to explain. And she said that if a man couldn’t be trusted to do right by his wife, then how could he be trusted to do right by an entire country. Yes Cippy, I know you might ask what this has to do with anything, but there is a serious vein of truth in that question. If you can’t be true and faithful to the person who shares your bed and bore your children, what on God’s green earth is going to compel you to be true and faithful to 320 million strangers???? The fact that the bulk of congress....or politicians from time immemorial may have engaged in similar behaviors is utterly irrelevant. We, as American citizens have the right to ask certain questions and to have certain expectations. You (supposedly) choose not to care. That is your right. The rest of us have the right to be disgusted by Trumps behavior and hypocrisy. Get over it.......
No, it's not irrelevant at all. Your thinking is old school, I don't understand why you oldies seem so gullible these days. Wow how do we trust him if he cheated on his wife? politicians lie all the time, where have you been? Trump has lied, Obama has, literally every president but we are stuck on this case where he cheated on his wife before being elected president? I get it, you dislike Trump, as do I. It's just funny to me how everybody around here is all up in arms about this type of shit when this happens all the time. Forget the drone strikes under all these presidents, who cares. As long as he doesn't cheat, he must be telling the truth right? this is your logic toward a president? seems you have more to learn.
 
Maybe you should slow down and actually read....and try to actually understand what’s being posted. You jump around like a fart in a skillet. Who the fuck said ANYTHING in the referenced post about burning shit down and hitting Nazis with bike locks????? Jeezus kid, go get a hug or something. At the bare minimum please try to stay on track as far as the actual conversation goes.......you’re giving the rest of us mental whiplash.....
Seems to be the liberal ideology of progression so I posted it. I am not mad, I honestly could care less about this thread. It's ridiculous and one big circle jerk from the left. I have issues with how the right thinks at times but god damn nobody goes crazier than the left. You eat yourselves and are the ultimate hypocrites on every topic imaginable
 
No, it's not irrelevant at all. Your thinking is old school, I don't understand why you oldies seem so gullible these days. Wow how do we trust him if he cheated on his wife? politicians lie all the time, where have you been? Trump has lied, Obama has, literally every president but we are stuck on this case where he cheated on his wife before being elected president? I get it, you dislike Trump, as do I. It's just funny to me how everybody around here is all up in arms about this type of shit when this happens all the time. Forget the drone strikes under all these presidents, who cares. As long as he doesn't cheat, he must be telling the truth right? this is your logic toward a president? seems you have more to learn.
So.....you have absolutely NO standards or expectations for your elected representatives. Got it. And that is what I just learned. Thank you!
 
So.....you have absolutely NO standards or expectations for your elected representatives. Got it. And that is what I just learned. Thank you!
Why have standards for them when they all have lowered it significantly for years and years? professional liars, it's not my problem you believe them
 
He doesn't vote. Why would have you standards and expectations in something you don't believe in?
Okay sly I don’t know why you believe in politics so much but yeah we get it I’m the dumb one because I don’t vote or believe in these politicians but you’re the old wise ones who blindly believe in your politicians despite all the lies and bullshit. Makes sense...
 
Okay sly I don’t know why you believe in politics so much but yeah we get it I’m the dumb one because I don’t vote or believe in these politicians but you’re the old wise ones who blindly believe in your politicians despite all the lies and bullshit. Makes sense...

I never said you were dumb. I never said I was wiser than you. You have said previously that you don't vote, right? I'm assuming it is because you don't believe the people running have any standards so you have zero expectations. If I am wrong that this isn't the reason you don't vote then I apologize.
 
Okay sly I don’t know why you believe in politics so much

I believe in politics because I see no other system that is as fair. Dictator? King or Queen?

What I really believe in is the ballot measure system. All the time there are ballot measures that when worded correctly focus on an issue or problem that goes beyond traditional political party positions. I would love to see national ballot measures instead of praying that our elected officials will represent our views and needs.

I would like to vote on abortion, some basic/limited gun control, national energy policy, so many national debates and arguments that never get solved that could be with simple national ballot measures.
 
I believe in politics because I see no other system that is as fair. Dictator? King or Queen?

What I really believe in is the ballot measure system. All the time there are ballot measures that when worded correctly focus on an issue or problem that goes beyond traditional political party positions. I would love to see national ballot measures instead of praying that our elected officials will represent our views and needs.

I would like to vote on abortion, some basic/limited gun control, national energy policy, so many national debates and arguments that never get solved that could be with simple national ballot measures.
That’s fair. I just believe that some things will just never be solved, and there is big money involved behind certain things and there is a lot of evidence that supports that. It’s not about the people. It’s all about making the rich richer. Whatever is in their best interest, and these politicians are just the puppets. The guys with big money are the puppet masters
 
That’s fair. I just believe that some things will just never be solved, and there is big money involved behind certain things and there is a lot of evidence that supports that. It’s not about the people. It’s all about making the rich richer. Whatever is in their best interest, and these politicians are just the puppets. The guys with big money are the puppet masters

I agree with some of that. That's why I support national initiative, aka national ballot measures. While big money can go to buying advertising it can't go to outright buying politicians like it does now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_initiative
 

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