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I'm happiest for the person who did the laundry...can you imagine getting the orange spray tan and all that hairspray off the pillows, sofas, shirt collars, etc....they will no longer have that task!
The task just shifts to someone in Florida.
 
That's exactly what someone who would ambush someone else would say.
If you speak from the voice of experience then I'm not at all like you and it's more than a little presumptuous of you to imply that I would. As you age you will learn not to make that error.
 
If you speak from the voice of experience then I'm not at all like you and it's more than a little presumptuous of you to imply that I would. As you age you will learn not to make that error.

RELAX ITA A JOKE BRO
 
Whenever Biden says something stupid, will Democrats say he was just Joeking?

barfo


And if he's taking a long time to get his message out, we'll say he's Biden' his time.
 
What the Trump cult really struggles to understand is that this country is NOT going to go Socialist under Biden, now or in the foreseeable future. We might see some “Green New Deal” stuff to try and offset climate change. and for sure he will resurrect the health insurance fight. But the rest of the pie in the sky crap is secondary to the immediate problems we face. AOC and the “squad” cost the Democrats House seats with their brand of populism. And they are likely responsible for the unbelievable number of votes Trump received. Biden and the Dems are already trying to put some distance between themselves and the extremists. Because if they don’t, Biden is the next one term president and Kamala is off to teach at a college somewhere. But then, the Democrats have proven beyond a doubt these past two elections that they are either incredibly slow learners, or they just aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer. The jury is still out....
 
What the Trump cult really struggles to understand is that this country is NOT going to go Socialist under Biden, now or in the foreseeable future. We might see some “Green New Deal” stuff to try and offset climate change. and for sure he will resurrect the health insurance fight. But the rest of the pie in the sky crap is secondary to the immediate problems we face. AOC and the “squad” cost the Democrats House seats with their brand of populism. And they are likely responsible for the unbelievable number of votes Trump received. Biden and the Dems are already trying to put some distance between themselves and the extremists. Because if they don’t, Biden is the next one term president and Kamala is off to teach at a college somewhere. But then, the Democrats have proven beyond a doubt these past two elections that they are either incredibly slow learners, or they just aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer. The jury is still out....

this is just the worst take i've seen all day
 
What the Trump cult really struggles to understand is that this country is NOT going to go Socialist under Biden, now or in the foreseeable future. We might see some “Green New Deal” stuff to try and offset climate change. and for sure he will resurrect the health insurance fight. But the rest of the pie in the sky crap is secondary to the immediate problems we face. AOC and the “squad” cost the Democrats House seats with their brand of populism. And they are likely responsible for the unbelievable number of votes Trump received. Biden and the Dems are already trying to put some distance between themselves and the extremists. Because if they don’t, Biden is the next one term president and Kamala is off to teach at a college somewhere. But then, the Democrats have proven beyond a doubt these past two elections that they are either incredibly slow learners, or they just aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer. The jury is still out....

I agree generally, but I would say instead that Republicans won this cycle by framing the squad as representative of the Democratic party, rather than fringe members.

The mere existence of fringe members doesn't doom a party. Republicans have plenty of nutty back-benchers - and lots of nutty leaders as well. But Democrats are somehow unsuccessful at painting the entire R party as outside the norm.

barfo
 
I agree generally, but I would say instead that Republicans won this cycle by framing the squad as representative of the Democratic party, rather than fringe members.

The mere existence of fringe members doesn't doom a party. Republicans have plenty of nutty back-benchers - and lots of nutty leaders as well. But Democrats are somehow unsuccessful at painting the entire R party as outside the norm.

barfo

Because Democrats are poorly organized and don't follow in lock step when the top makes a declaration.
 
I agree generally, but I would say instead that Republicans won this cycle by framing the squad as representative of the Democratic party, rather than fringe members.

The mere existence of fringe members doesn't doom a party. Republicans have plenty of nutty back-benchers - and lots of nutty leaders as well. But Democrats are somehow unsuccessful at painting the entire R party as outside the norm.

barfo

Because Democrats are poorly organized and don't follow in lock step when the top makes a declaration.

Maybe it has something to do with the 'Big Lie'....that being that media in this country is tilted left

for instance:

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all four of those companies are right wing, with the top-2 being rabidly right wing

on top of the right-wing saturation in radio, Sinclair media now owns 294 TV stations around the US and they are another heavily right wing organization

and of course, there is Fox Broadcasting:

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a bigger issue, besides right win dominance of radio and local TV is that they have message discipline and have spent years hammering away at the 'Democrats are socialists' canard

the media table is significantly tilted to the right
 
Because Democrats are poorly organized and don't follow in lock step when the top makes a declaration.

Yes. Also, if you are a moderate Democratic party candidate and you allow yourself to be painted as Ilhan Omar's sidekick, you suck as a candidate.

barfo
 
By the way, progressive candidates and issues won big. It's the radical centrist Lincoln Project ghouls that make up establishment democrats that lost ground.
 
if you think that anyone in "the squad" is an "extremist", I don't know what to tell you

It depends on your perspective - if you are only considering elected Democrats, then clearly they are at the extreme (and Biden is at or near the opposite extreme). Edit: well, Manchin would be more extreme, for sure.

If you are considering the entire spectrum of political thought, then they aren't anything close to extremists.

barfo
 
By the way, progressive candidates and issues won big. It's the radical centrist Lincoln Project ghouls that make up establishment democrats that lost ground.
speaking of ghouls that make up the establishment....look no further than the guy who's turning into an eggplant before your very eyes...Mitch...I have no neck....McConnell
 
It depends on your perspective - if you are only considering elected Democrats, then clearly they are at the extreme (and Biden is at or near the opposite extreme). Edit: well, Manchin would be more extreme, for sure.

If you are considering the entire spectrum of political thought, then they aren't anything close to extremists.

barfo

Everything depends on perspective, of course. Unfortunately, "both sides" have very similar perspectives.

 
By the way, progressive candidates and issues won big. It's the radical centrist Lincoln Project ghouls that make up establishment democrats that lost ground.

But part of that is the further division of the country into pure blue and pure red. Centrists lost a lot of ground in red places. I'm not sure if there are any progressives that won in a red district?

barfo
 
if you think that anyone in "the squad" is an "extremist", I don't know what to tell you
Probably nothing if you really want to argue the “extremist” opinion.......What AOC and her BFF’s are promoting is waaaaaay to the left of of current “left wing” politics. I’m pretty liberal overall, and while I more or less agree with the philosophy behind her crusade there are at least 70M+ voters who will look you in the eye and tell you honestly, from the bottom of their hearts that those individuals are extremist (compared to their own personal philosophies). And their opinions (like ‘em or not) are every bit as valid as yours or mine. My point was that the right answered AOC by taking house seats from Democrats. The individuals who lost those seats blame AOC et al, for those losses. You can look it up. America is like an aircraft carrier. An aircraft carrier needs a HUGE amount of ocean to turn around in. If the dreams of AOC are ever going to be achieved, it will be when the aircraft carrier has finished it’s turn and is heading in the other direction. That’s going to be awhile yet, and if the Democrats want to hold to power longer than 4 years, they’re going to have to put the brakes on the Green New Deal (or at least the majority of it) and AOC is going to have to learn some hard truths......Rome wasn’t built in a day.
 
Probably nothing if you really want to argue the “extremist” opinion.......What AOC and her BFF’s are promoting is waaaaaay to the left of of current “left wing” politics. I’m pretty liberal overall, and while I more or less agree with the philosophy behind her crusade there are at least 70M+ voters who will look you in the eye and tell you honestly, from the bottom of their hearts that those individuals are extremist (compared to their own personal philosophies). And their opinions (like ‘em or not) are every bit as valid as yours or mine. My point was that the right answered AOC by taking house seats from Democrats. The individuals who lost those seats blame AOC et al, for those losses. You can look it up. America is like an aircraft carrier. An aircraft carrier needs a HUGE amount of ocean to turn around in. If the dreams of AOC are ever going to be achieved, it will be when the aircraft carrier has finished it’s turn and is heading in the other direction. That’s going to be awhile yet, and if the Democrats want to hold to power longer than 4 years, they’re going to have to put the brakes on the Green New Deal (or at least the majority of it) and AOC is going to have to learn some hard truths......Rome wasn’t built in a day.

But aircraft carriers don't start to turn unless someone suggests that maybe they should. AOC is young enough that she might live to see the carrier start to turn.

Those who blame their losses on AOC are no better than Trump blaming his loss on Covid. It's a failure to take responsibility.

barfo
 
that may be true, but labeling Joe Biden 'far right' is 100% chucklehead

my point is that the POV of the American political system has centered the right wing politics. the democrats are right-wingers to begin with, and Joe has plenty of policies that push him even further right.

sure, he's not aesthetically far-right, but zoom out and have a little perspective
 
But aircraft carriers don't start to turn unless someone suggests that maybe they should. AOC is young enough that she might live to see the carrier start to turn.

Those who blame their losses on AOC are no better than Trump blaming his loss on Covid. It's a failure to take responsibility.

barfo
C’mon Barf, politicians and responsibility are mutually exclusive. And try talking to someone who leans hard right. They will be the first to tell you they would vote for the devil (duh) than vote for a progressive agenda. Just as some of us were voting against Trump versus for Joe, they were voting more against the AOC agenda instead of voting for Trump. Sad but true.

And when in the past 2 years has AOC shown any real willingness to compromise ? She has her agenda and get the f**k out of way. That scares the piss out of conservatives, which is exactly her intention. She’d rather burn it all down than admit she’s damaging Democrat chances. It’s everyone else’s shortcoming if they don’t get on board with her. And I don’t support extremists of any stripe.
 
100%.

We don't have a left wing political party in the USA.
Actually you're wrong about that....there's an American communist party...it just doesn't have much following but probably as many members as the Nazi party has....there are a bunch of parties in the US that don't get ink...they're one...Libertarians get the most attention of the small parties...they've only been around since the 70s...
 
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