Politics Trump declares me a new nationality. I am not.

[Chris Craig]

I did not use it.

But in any case, your liberal dictator approach is not appreciated by me. You delete posts then pull a reason out of your ass to cover the why.

I didn't say you did. I merely compared it with other words that were used. Slurs are not ok to be used here.

I am not a dictator and don't aim or care to be one. I simply moderate by the rules. I don't delete/edit posts without reason or careful regard. I certainly do not store my reasons in my ass.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Don't come back.
My post served as an example of how racist Oswego used to be. Your post looks like drivel to me.

You're still here? I have screenshots of the racist "jokes" you posted. I will be forwarding those shots to the Blazers in a few minutes. Your "I was showing how things used to be" excuse is hilarious.

Any conservative poster would have been banned immediately.

Repeating anti-semitic jokes isn't necessary to prove how racist things "used to be"

Tell one of the Blazers a racist joke and say "it's alright that is just what we used to say"

Good luck with that.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yes, someone was banned for posting the N word in the game threads. They did it 3 different times. They were warned and asked not to do it anymore, after the 3rd time they were banned.

Everyone knows it isn't allowed here. Good luck explaining why Lanny is still here. The soon to be former official message board of the Portland Trailblazers. Where our buddies can say anything they want cuz CONTEXT.

Good luck to you as well. This cesspool needs to die already.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Everyone knows it isn't allowed here. Good luck explaining why Lanny is still here. The soon to be former official message board of the Portland Trailblazers. Where our buddies can say anything they want cuz CONTEXT.

Good luck to you as well. This cesspool needs to die already.

Wait are you serious?

 

[julius]

Everyone knows it isn't allowed here. Good luck explaining why Lanny is still here. The soon to be former official message board of the Portland Trailblazers. Where our buddies can say anything they want cuz CONTEXT.

Good luck to you as well. This cesspool needs to die already.

I'm a little confused. If "our buddies can say anything they want cuz CONTEXT", when, then, was Lanny's comments deleted?

 

[MARIS61]

When I was a kid in the mid 50s in Oswego, now Lake Oswego, the joke going around was something spoken to another White Nationalist "If I knew you were coming I'd have baked a ****." However, Jews were not the only ones ridiculed. Others were as follows:

1. Blacks
1. Jews;
2. Germans
3. Italians
4. Japanese
5. Chinese;
6. Women;
7. Actually the least denigrated of the list was Catholics.

Kind of ugly, huh.

Fortunately that list only came to me from other children my age, obviously taught to them by other children and some nasty adults somewhere along the line.

It wasn't until we moved to NW Portland and I turned 12 that I began to realize just how wrong that was.

I might add that I never heard that crap at school or at church or in the Boy Scouts or directly from any adult.

Of course Lake Oswego, the merger of Oswego and Lake Grove, is now completely different and most of the people are proud of their acceptance of other differing people.

Funny how you and I grew up in the same town a few years apart and you remember so much hate and bigotry all around you while I remember genuine acceptance of people from all walks of life.

 

[MARIS61]

Posting racist jokes but not using a slur to identify the race is racism + hypocrisy + cowardice.

 

[julius]

Posting racist jokes but not using a slur to identify the race is racism + hypocrisy + cowardice.

Yeah, REAL AMERICANS use the slur, damnit!

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm a little confused. If "our buddies can say anything they want cuz CONTEXT", when, then, was Lanny's comments deleted?

It seems pretty obvious so a smart guy like yourself should get it. His comments were deleted, Maris or MarAzul would have been banned. Where is @MarAzul anyway?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Wait are you serious?

Absolutely.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Posting racist jokes but not using a slur to identify the race is racism + hypocrisy + cowardice.

He used the slurs. Pretty much all of them except the N word. That was the cowardice.

 

[julius]

It seems pretty obvious so a smart guy like yourself should get it. His comments were deleted, Maris or MarAzul would have been banned. Where is @MarAzul anyway?

Im not the one who is in charge of that, so I'm not going to discuss it.

 

[MARIS61]

I have always opposed rah-rah flag waving jingoism, from the time I was in high school and refused to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance as a protest against the Vietnam War. I am American by virtue of having been born within political boundaries, and never felt it conveyed any special status. So it is ironic that Trump, by attempting to classify me as a new “national origin” due to my Jewish heritage (although I’ve been an atheist since age 13), that I now must proclaim clearly that I am an American.

Unlike, say, Irish-Americans or Chinese-Americans, who can trace their ancestry to a specific country, Jewish Americans can come from virtually any country on earth. My grandparents were all immigrants; two from Poland, one from Russia, one from Slovenia. I have always simply said I was of East European descent. None of them came from some mythical country of “Jew-land”.

It was stated that making us a new, nationality will enable blocking or banning the anti-Israel Boycott Divest Sanction (BDS) movement on college campuses, although Nazis and white supremacists are “very fine people” who are terribly persecuted when students refuse to listen to them. Bad ideas need to be fought politically, not by naming people a new nationality by executive order. And while many Jewish Americans are sympathetic towards Israel, it is not our nationality.

After “Christ killer” and “money grubber”, the top anti-Semitic slur used against Jews has been disloyalty or at least divided loyalty. Trump himself has used this slur on many occasions. From the Dreyfus affair, to Nazi Germany, to Stalinist purges, to McCarthyism and the attacks on brave patriots like Alexander Vindman and Marie Yovanovich; not really French, not really German, not really Soviet, not really American, the other, the Jew.

For the record:

My national origin is East European
My culture is secular Jewish and American
My religion is none
My nationality is American.

You were born in America.
Your national origin is American.
Your culture is whatever you want it to be.
Your religion, or lack of, is nobody's business. Especially not the government's.
Your nationality is Native American, unless or until you disavow it or commit treason.

I have no idea what your complaint is.

 

[MARIS61]

Yes, they did. Posting slurs of any race, religion, culture, etc on this site are not accepted. Lanny's post has been edited. Reading Lanny's post, I understood he was not using such language to proliferate hate, but to share a valuable lesson. Still, such language is not tolerated here.

His post has been edited. Other posts using his as an excuse to use more of such language have been removed or edited as was deemed fit.

Do not google slurs or disparaging jokes to post here. They will be removed.

Lanny`s post should be deleted. It is 50 years too late to impart any lesson of value and clearly violates the rules. Seems like we're always seeing some rules for somebody and no rules for somebody else.

I prefer no rules for anybody but am fine with whatever rules APPLY TO EVERYONE ELSE.

 

[MARIS61]

Don't come back.
My post served as an example of how racist Oswego used to be.

Your post may be an example of your early family life and upbringing, and your parents circle of friends. It's not an example of the 5,000 or so fine Americans who also lived in Oswego at that time or any other.

 

[H.C.]

Wait, someone posted slurs and or racist jokes to show how it used to be in LO? Seriously?
How out of touch can you be.

Doing things like that is not acceptable at any level of society.

 

[julius]

Wait, someone posted slurs and or racist jokes to show how it used to be in LO? Seriously?
How out of touch can you be.

Doing things like that is not acceptable at any level of society.

Actually, he made a historical reference to a saying that he claimed was said when he was a child living in that area, and then brought up a list of other groups that were slighted, and the references that were made.

It's not like he made a racist joke.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Actually, he made a historical reference to a saying that he claimed was said when he was a child living in that area, and then brought up a list of other groups that were slighted, and the references that were made.

It's not like he made a racist joke.

Bullshit

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Actually, he made a historical reference to a saying that he claimed was said when he was a child living in that area, and then brought up a list of other groups that were slighted, and the references that were made.

It's not like he made a racist joke.

I have the screenshots. He literally said it was "the joke going around" and he said it was "spoken to another White Nationalist"

Then he posted the actual joke and used a word for Jews that I haven't even seen in the comments on yahoo.

 

[julius]

I have the screenshots. He literally said it was "the joke going around" and he said it was "spoken to another White Nationalist"

Then he posted the actual joke and used a word for Jews that I haven't even seen in the comments on yahoo.

That doesn't change anything that I said.

He was explaining how when he was a kid this was the joke going around. That is the textbook definition of "context".

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

That doesn't change anything that I said.

He was explaining how when he was a kid this was the joke going around. That is the textbook definition of "context".

Ahh. Deflection. You said he referenced a "saying" when in FACT he repeated a joke that he just casually threw out there and followed with a list of people he described with slurs. Jonnyboy would be gonnyboy in a heartbeat for the same thing.

I'd post the screenshot but I'd get banned.

I don't even say certain words when I listen to Public Enemy in my car but I sing every part of The Highwayman...my Willie Nelson is on point.

It isn't acceptable now and never will be again. I already forwarded it to the sponsors I found on google. I don't know who runs things like Standard Tv and appliance but I figure Spirit Mountain Casino might not look too kindly on anything remotely racist or anti-semitic.

 

[calvin natt]

Ahh. Deflection. You said he referenced a "saying" when in FACT he repeated a joke that he just casually threw out there and followed with a list of people he described with slurs. Jonnyboy would be gonnyboy in a heartbeat for the same thing.

I'd post the screenshot but I'd get banned.

I don't even say certain words when I listen to Public Enemy in my car but I sing every part of The Highwayman...my Willie Nelson is on point.

It isn't acceptable now and never will be again. I already forwarded it to the sponsors I found on google. I don't know who runs things like Standard Tv and appliance but I figure Spirit Mountain Casino might not look too kindly on anything remotely racist or anti-semitic.

jesus

 

[Chris Craig]

Lanny`s post should be deleted. It is 50 years too late to impart any lesson of value and clearly violates the rules. Seems like we're always seeing some rules for somebody and no rules for somebody else.

I prefer no rules for anybody but am fine with whatever rules APPLY TO EVERYONE ELSE.

His post was edited. The rules apply to e everyone

 

[H.C.]

Actually, he made a historical reference to a saying that he claimed was said when he was a child living in that area, and then brought up a list of other groups that were slighted, and the references that were made.

It's not like he made a racist joke.

I see.
Well I generally trust sly to be fair so I'll go with that.
The other mods I don't trust at all. PP is the closest but even he skews the line at times.

I will say though, context is not an excuse to say certain things.
I don't know what was wrote, nor do I want to know. Simply will say context is not an excuse.

 

[Lanny]

Wait are you serious?

I believe he is.

 

[Lanny]

I see.
Well I generally trust sly to be fair so I'll go with that.
The other mods I don't trust at all. PP is the closest but even he skews the line at times.

I will say though, context is not an excuse to say certain things.
I don't know what was wrote, nor do I want to know. Simply will say context is not an excuse.

It was an example of the type of racism that once existed in Oswego, Oregon.

 

[crandc]

Maris goysplains anti-Semitism to me. Why am I not surprised?

 

[julius]

Ahh. Deflection. You said he referenced a "saying" when in FACT he repeated a joke that he just casually threw out there and followed with a list of people he described with slurs. Jonnyboy would be gonnyboy in a heartbeat for the same thing.

Here's the thing. You know this isn't how it went down. I know this isn't how it went down, and most importantly, the businesses aren't going to take you seriously.

Saying he reference a joke/phrase (which is what he did), and saying he "repeated a joke" that he "causally threw out there" is saying the same thing. The difference is, historical context.

If I posted a picture of some of the propaganda posters from the 1940's, about Japanese people and German people, it'd be considered offensive now. But in the context of discussing a topic about it, it would make more sense than just randomly saying it.

If Lanny had said it out of context, or had a history of saying racists or inappropriate things, or in the case of the poster who was banned for dropping the N word several times after being warned not to, and did it in a way to antagonize or personalize a person or a group of people, the point would be stronger.

This is no different then how the republicans freaked out when whats her face mentioned it's not possible to make Barron Trump an actual Baron, just because his name is Baron. They knew exactly what she was saying, and their fake outrage is silly. Just like this fake outrage is silly.

I'd post the screenshot but I'd get banned.

Since that's not why Marazul was banned (temp or not), I don't see why you think this is the case.

I don't even say certain words when I listen to Public Enemy in my car but I sing every part of The Highwayman...my Willie Nelson is on point.

Neat. So I take it you were super offended during Django unchained?

It isn't acceptable now and never will be again. I already forwarded it to the sponsors I found on google. I don't know who runs things like Standard Tv and appliance but I figure Spirit Mountain Casino might not look too kindly on anything remotely racist or anti-semitic.

Here's the thing. If this website "needs to die" and/or you're trying to submarine it, why don't you just leave the board? If I don't like something, I leave. I don't continually complain about things and beg for attention.

If you saw just how many of the "reports" we get from people who are reporting every single slight, even the most slight of slights, you'd be surprised at how many of them don't qualify for editing. Especially the reports made about the more conservative members of the board. It's not some grand conspiracy. We're not near organized enough for that.

 

[MARIS61]

His post was edited. The rules apply to e everyone

Bullshit. I was banned for 2 weeks for simply out-debating SPD in a friendly discussion. No slurs, no insults, no names, no rules violated.

The post is a vile insult to everyone I grew up with and it's been shown to be fictional on top of disgusting.

Nobody believes you would allow everyone here to post the same thing.

 

[MARIS61]

It was an example of the type of racism that once existed in Oswego, Oregon.

You mean in your home.

Oswego has always been one of the most progressive and accepting communities in Oregon.