Trump Dominating polls, even with RINO plants sabotage him

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Hey you guys remember when Paul tried to make a mic drop moment when he said "Let's remind trump that China is not part of the TPP deal?"

Well, Paul got his ass handed to him right here. LOL

Not really. Trump's complaint isn't relevant. It's like saying we shouldn't have gun control because criminals will still drive faster than the speed limit. TPP isn't about China, except in the sense that it is about forging stronger ties with non-China countries.

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The later half of the interview talks about him predicting where we are today.

 

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http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/article/new-umass-poll-finds-donald-trump-and-ben

New UMass Poll Finds Donald Trump and Ben Carson Have a Dominant Hold on Likely Republican Primary Voters
Contact: Jared Sharpe 413/545-0444
AMHERST, Mass. – Donald Trump and Ben Carson have a dominating lead over the rest of the field of Republican presidential candidates, and should either of them drop out of the primary race the other stands to benefit the most, according to a new UMass Poll released today by the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

Overall, Trump leads the Republican field with 31 percent of likely Republican voters listing him as their first choice, based on a nationwide online survey of 318 likely Republican primary voters conducted by YouGov America under the direction of the UMass Poll from Nov. 5-13. Carson comes in second at 22 percent, followed by Senators Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio at 13 percent and 9 percent, respectively. No other candidate was able to garner 5 percent support.

The poll also asked the second choice preference among respondents, and 36 percent of Trump supporters named Carson as their secondary choice, while Trump is the second choice preference among 30 percent of those backing Carson, indicating that if one of those two candidates were to leave the race the other would benefit significantly.

“Trump and Carson continue to lead the way as they have for longer than many thought they would, but Cruz and Rubio are well positioned to take advantage if either or both of them falter,” said Brian Schaffner, director of the UMass Poll.

The poll, which also tallied support among confirmed registered voters, also asked respondents to indicate every candidate they were willing to support in their state’s primary, as well as every candidate for whom they would not be willing to vote. Over half of Republican likely voters said they would be willing to support Carson and Trump. Jeb Bush attracted the most opposition among Republicans, with half of all respondents indicating that they would not be willing to vote for him. Other candidates attracting high levels of opposition included Sen. Lindsey Graham, George Pataki, Gov. Chris Christie and Jim Gilmore.

“These are frightening numbers for Bush,” said Raymond La Raja, associate director of the UMass Poll. “More than half of registered primary voters said they would not be willing to vote for him under any scenario. No other top-tier candidate faces this wall of unconvinced voters. Bush may think his campaign treasury will help him outlast other candidates, but that strategy seems implausible if voters do not list him as their second or third choice.

“However, Carson, Rubio and Cruz look well positioned right now,” La Raja continued. “As other candidates leave the dance floor and disappoint supporters, they are the next most attractive dance partners.”

“This poll is more evidence of the anti-establishment mood in the Republican electorate—Republican voters seem strongly opposed to nominating another career Republican party leader,” Schaffner added.

While Trump leads the poll, he also draws more opposition than any of the other frontrunners—nearly one in three Republicans say that they would not vote for him.

“Trump appears to have flat-lined,” La Raja said. “He needs to knock out Carson and Cruz to move forward. But his persuadable voters are fewer than other insurgent candidates. At least one-third of Republican primary voters said they would not consider voting for him.”

Likely Republican voters also said that Trump (40 percent) and Carson (24 percent) would have the best chances of winning a general election campaign.

“For supporters of Trump and Carson this is not just a protest vote,” said La Raja. “They actually think these candidates are best positioned to win the general election. That is fascinating given the weakness of their support among political elites and their total lack of government experience.”

The poll also surveyed 381 likely Democratic primary voters, and found that Sen. Bernie Sanders is struggling to gain any traction against Hillary Clinton. Clinton was the top choice among 63 percent of likely Democratic primary voters, compared to just 29 percent for Sanders.

Democrats also view Clinton as having the best chance of winning the general election, with 78 percent seeing her as the most competitive candidate to take on the Republican nominee, compared to just 19 percent for Sanders.

“Even many of Sanders’ supporters recognize that Clinton has the best chance of winning in November, and that is obviously a key part of her campaign juggernaut,” Schaffner concluded.

YouGov interviewed 1,224 respondents who were then matched down to a nationally representative sample of 1,000 American adults. The respondents were matched to a sampling frame on gender, age, race, education, party identification, ideology and political interest. Likely voters are respondents who said that they would definitely or probably vote in their state’s presidential primary or caucus. Confirmed registered likely voters are those likely voters who the UMass Poll directors were able to match to voter files as active registered voters. The margin of error among Republican likely primary voters is 6.4 percent, and the margin of error among Democratic likely primary voters is 6.0 percent.

 

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New Poll: American Voters’ Security Concerns Grow Following Terror Attacks in Paris
For Immediate Release

Contact: Jeff Cartwright, jeff@morningconsult.com, (763) 234-7431

WASHINGTON (November 17, 2015) — A new poll conducted by Morning Consult in the days surrounding the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris finds that American voters increasingly say national security is a top issue determining their vote. Twenty-two percent of voters say security issues are at the top of their minds when they think about national elections, up five points from the previous week and higher than any other issue besides the economy.

Conducted November 13-16, 2015, the weekly tracking poll shows about three in ten Republicans and self-described conservative voters cite security issues as their top concerns. Seventeen percent of Democrats and 20 percent of those who call themselves independents said security was their top concern.

Asked what poses the greatest threat to the United States, 36 percent said either terrorism here at home or groups like the Islamic State. Twenty-two percent said they were most worried about economic collapse.

Republicans enjoy a clear advantage among voters who say security issues are their top concern; among those voters, 53 percent say they would cast a ballot for a generic Republican candidate, compared with just 27 percent who would vote for a Democratic candidate.

“As the economy slowly recovers and global events dominate the headlines, voters are paying more attention to security issues now than they have in the past,” said James Wyatt, Morning Consult’s director of polling. “That’s an opportunity for more experienced candidates running for president: In times like these, voters are looking for a steady hand on the tiller.”

Full topline results are available here.

Full cross tabs are available here.

Real estate mogul Donald Trump continues to lead the Republican presidential field by a wide margin, after seeing his support dip in late October. Trump leads with 38 percent of the vote, twice the level of support of his nearest competitor, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who takes 19 percent.

Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas) tie for third, at 7 percent each, while former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) finishes with 6 percent. No other contender scores above 3 percent of the vote.

Trump’s lead is built on strong support from voters who have not attended college and among those who make less than $50,000 a year. In both cohorts, Trump takes 44 percent of the vote. Trump does especially well with voters over the age of 65, among whom he takes 49 percent of the vote, and among Republican voters in Northeastern and Western states, where he scores 52 percent and 42 percent, respectively.

“Pundits have gotten rich declaring the impending decline of Donald Trump — and they’ve been consistently wrong. Morning Consult isn’t the only poll that shows Trump still has life, and that the rest of the field needs to work overtime to catch him,” Wyatt said.

Candidate Nov. 13-16 Nov. 5-8 Oct. 29 – Nov 1 Oct. 22-25 Oct. 15-19
Donald Trump 38% 34% 31% 35% 40%
Ben Carson 19% 19% 21% 20% 14%
Ted Cruz 7% 7% 9% 3% 5%
Marco Rubio 7% 7% 7% 6% 5%
Jeb Bush 6% 8% 7% 8% 6%
Carly Fiorina 3% 2% 2% 3% 3%
Mike Huckabee 3% 3% 3% 4% 3%
Chris Christie 2% 2% 4% 3% 4%
Rand Paul 2% 2% 3% 3% 2%
Lindsey Graham 1% * * * 1%
John Kasich 1% 1% 1% 2% 2%
Bobby Jindal * 1% 1% 2% 1%
George Pataki * * 1% 1% 1%
Rick Santorum * 1% * 1% 1%
Someone else/don’t know 11% 12% 11% 11% 14%
On the Democratic side, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leads her nearest rival by 31 percentage points. Clinton takes 57 percent of the vote, compared with 26 percent who favor Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Just 2 percent said they would vote for former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (D).

Sanders challenges Clinton only with the youngest set of voters; among those between the ages of 18 and 29, Sanders and Clinton are tied at 43 percent. Clinton leads by wide margins among liberals (57 percent to 32 percent), Hispanic voters (52 percent to 38 percent) and African Americans (80 percent to 8 percent), the bedrocks of a Democratic primary electorate.

Democratic voters who cite national security as their most important issue trust Clinton much more than the broader electorate: Those voters favor the former Secretary of State by a 61 percent to 13 percent margin.

Candidate Nov. 13-16 Nov. 5-8 Oct. 29 – Nov 1 Oct. 22-25 Oct. 15-19
Hillary Clinton 57% 54% 56% 53% 56%
Bernie Sanders 26% 28% 26% 26% 24%
Martin O’Malley 2% 3% 2% 5% 1%
Someone else/don’t know 15% 15% 17% 16% 18%
The survey continues to find President Obama’s approval ratings struggling. Just 41 percent of Americans say they approve of the job he is doing as president, while 30 percent say the country is headed in the right direction.

The Morning Consult tracking poll surveyed 2,001 registered voters between Nov. 13 and 16 for a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points. Subsamples of 774 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents and 874 Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents carry margins of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points and 3.3 percentage points, respectively.

For complete cross tabs see here. For topline results see here. To set up an interview with Morning Consult pollster James Wyatt, please contact Jeff Cartwright at jeff@morningconsult.com or (763) 234-7431.

About Morning ConsultMorning Consult is a technology and media company that serves leaders at the intersection of policy, politics business, and Wall Street. Through its technology and media platforms, Morning Consult delivers actionable public opinion polling, original reporting, and market research data on the most pressing issues. Over 200,000 government and industry leaders trust Morning Consult to deliver comprehensive coverage of campaigns and congress as well as the energy, finance, health, and tech industries.www.morningconsult.com

Media Contact:Jeff Cartwrightjeff@morningconsult.com(763) 234-7431

 

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OK, I'm going to say something pretty inflammatory, but I have been thinking about it lately. If Trump wins, it honestly wouldn't shock me if he ends up being the Third Antichrist starting WWIII. He's got the ego. Hitler fooled people too. Honestly, he scares me.

I fear for my country if Hillary becomes the Commander in Chief. She is down right scary.

 

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http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-b...-36-rubio-18-carson-15-cruz-10-bush-9/2254421

Fla poll: Trump 36%, Rubio 18%, Carson 15%, Cruz 10%, Bush 9%
A newly released poll of likely Florida Republican primary voters by the Florida Atlantic University Business and Economics Polling Initiative shows Donald Trump with a two-to-one advantage over everybody else and former Gov. Jeb Bush in fifth place, behind Ted Cruz.

“Despite conjecture that Donald Trump has plateaued, his support in Florida remains very strong and could be growing,” said Kevin Wagner, Ph.D., associate professor of political science at FAU and a research fellow of the Initiative.

On the Democratic side, the Nov. 15-16 survey found Hillary Clinton crushing Bernie Sanders 66 percent to 22 percent. But continues to trail in head-to-head matchups with the Republican frontrunners, trailing Carson 50 percent to 41 percent, and Trump 49 percent to 41 percent.

“While Clinton is losing in all the trial heats, she is winning among females,” said Monica Escaleras, Ph.D., director of the BEPI. “Thus it appears that her strategy of targeting women is working.”

From a release:

The GOP primary fight has not had a positive impact on favorability ratings for many of the candidates. Trump has a favorable rating of just 41 percent among all voters, while 51 percent have an unfavorable impression of him. His numbers are more positive among likely GOP voters, however, with 63 percent favorable compared to 32 percent unfavorable.

Clinton also suffers from negative name recognition, with voters giving her a 41 percent favorable rating, compared with 54 percent saying they have an unfavorable impression of her. Among Independent voters, Clinton’s numbers drop to 35 percent favorable and 56 percent unfavorable.

... The polling sample for the Democratic and the Republican primary consisted of 297 and 355 likely Florida voters, respectively, with a margin of error of +/-5.6 percent and +/-5.2 percent at a 95 percent confidence level. The General Election Sample consisted of 829 registered voters with a margin of error of +/-3.3 percent and a 95 percent confidence level.

 

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http://www.shallownation.com/2015/1...rcester-massachusetts-rally-weds-nov-18-2015/

Video: LIVE RALLY - Donald Trump Speech at Worcester, Massachusetts Rally, Weds. Nov. 18, 2015

 

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Now that's how a leader holds a press conference!

 

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I think someone needs to check on Mags. He hasn't posted in this thread for more than 24 hours.

Hope everything is ok in Trumpville!

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Fuck tr*mp

 

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/19/how-the-media-smeared-donald-trump-as-a-nazi/

How the Media Smeared Donald Trump as a Nazi

A story is making the rounds on Facebook that claims Republican frontrunner Donald Trump is calling for “ID badges” for American Muslims. The image on the story is of Jewish children wearing yellow starts during the Holocaust. Very frightening–and a lie.
Step 1: Seed. The lie begins with a Yahoo! profile in which Trump is asked, supposedly (the reporter does not provide his exact question), if he would “require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion.”

Trump does not say yes or no. Instead, he dodges the question, and comes back to the question of monitoring mosques (which the U.S. has done in the past): “We’re going to have to–we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

The Yahoo! reporter, Hunter Walker (a haterof note), construes Trump’s answer as follows: “He wouldn’t rule it out.”

Step 2: Amplify. The story is picked up by CNN. Sara Murray asks whether Trump would “rule out” a database for Muslims–borrowing from Walker’s article. Trump is surprised, and tells her, truthfully, that he never responded to Walker’s question.

Here is their exchange, as reported by CNN:

When Murray asked whether Trump would rule out a database for Muslims, he said he didn’t “know where you heard that.”

“Yahoo News asked you about it, you didn’t rule it out,” Murray said as Trump worked a ropeline after the event.

“No, I never — I never responded to that question,” Trump said.

“So would you not support it?” Murray asked.

“I never responded to that question, Sara,” Trump said.

He added that he didn’t “know who wrote it,” referring to the Yahoo News article, and declined to answer a follow-up question from Murray about whether he would “support something like that,” referring to a Muslim database.

Step 3: Distort. NBC News’ Vaughn Hillyard confronts Trump: “Should there be a database system that tracks the Muslims here in this country?” Trump replies: “There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now, we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.” Hillyard asks: “But that’s something your White House would like to implement?” Trump: “Oh I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.” Hillyard follows up: What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work? It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people from coming into our country illegally.” Hillyard asks if Trump would go to mosques to register people. “Different places,” Trump says.

It is clear from the exchange that Trump thinks Hillyard is talking about new entrants to the United States, presumably Syrian refugees. But Hillyard reports Trump’s answer as if he is talking unambiguously about Muslims already in the United States.

Step 4: Smear. Hillyard comes back later, asking Trump: “Mr. Trump, why would Muslim databases not be the same thing as requiring Jews to register in Nazi Germany?” Trump realizes Hillyard is out for blood. “You tell me,” he says, and walks away.

The story goes viral: “Donald Trump Is In Favor Of Legally Requiring American Muslims to Register on a Database,” writes Zeke Miller of Time, linking to Hillyard’s story at NBC. A proposal Trump never made is now an established mainstream media fact.

[Update: The Washington Post‘s Jose A. DelReal got creative, asking the Trump campaign “whether his proposals would require the creation of a special agency.” (The campaign, according to DelReal, did not respond to his query–did not rule it out, perhaps.)]

Note that none of these esteemed journalists bothers to question their own assumptions, or to ask Trump precisely whether he is talking about American citizens or about foreign nationals. They chase their own questions down a broken telephone line.

Step 5: Nazi. Now the dregs of the Internet begin to play up what Yahoo!-CNN-NBC have produced, with Raw Story reporting: “Trump crosses the Nazi line: Maybe Muslims should wear special ID badges.”

He never said that–but at this stage, who cares.

 

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I think someone needs to check on Mags. He hasn't posted in this thread for more than 24 hours.

Hope everything is ok in Trumpville!

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#MediaLiesMatter

And btw, every poll Trump is winning by double digits.

 

[julius]

It's not hard to say "no, I wouldn't do that".

 

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It's not hard to say "no, I wouldn't do that".

He did in the first interview. But on the second, he is referring to the refugees that come in should have some sort of tracking. Do you agree?

 

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http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-muslims-id/

Demerit Badge

Claim: Donald Trump stated that Muslims should be made to wear identifying badges.

WHAT'S TRUE: Donald Trump was asked in an interview about whether Muslims should be subject to special scrutiny, a question he answered ambiguously.

WHAT'S FALSE: Donald Trump asserted that Muslims should wear identifying badges. After the rumor initially circulated, Trump doubled down on his nebulous responses in a New York Times article.

Example: [Collected via e-mail and Twitter, November 2015]

Any truth to the statements attributed to Donald Trump. tag line: "Trump crosses the Nazi line: Maybe Muslims should wear special ID badges" Reported by Raw Story. "(1) The real estate tycoon and reality TV star said he was open to registering U.S. Muslims in a special database, in addition to requiring them to publicly identify themselves by their faith." (2) "Trump also refused to rule out warrantless searches as part of his call for increased surveillance of Muslim houses of worship, and he has also suggested that U.S. mosques could be shut down if they are deemed to be a security threat — although he’s not certain that’s legal."

Trump goes Full Adolf: Muslims should be forced to carry special IDs: https://t.co/aKW95ADQb9

— G. Willow Wilson (@GWillowWilson) November 19, 2015

Donald Trump Says Muslims Should Be Forced To Wear Special ID Badges https://t.co/768Ccgrmtu WHAT A FOOL!! pic.twitter.com/mxaxSqpV6K

— JS2 (@___JS2) November 19, 2015

Origins: On 19 November 2015 web site The Hill published an article titled "Trump won't rule out database, special ID for Muslims in US," which reported on an interview given by Donald Trump after a series of terror attacks in Paris on 13 November 2015:

“Certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy,” he added. “We’re going to have to do things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Trump would not rule out warrantless searches in his plans for increased surveillance of the nation’s Muslims, Yahoo reported Thursday.

He also remained open toward registering U.S. Muslims in a database or giving them special identification identifying their faith, the news outlet added.

“We’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump continued. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

The comments attributed to Trump caused immediate controversy on Twitter, where a number of users compared the described mandating of badges to similar treatment of Jews in Europe before the Holocaust. However, The Hill was a secondary source for the comments, originally published in a 19 November 2015 Yahoo! Politics articletitled "Donald Trump has big plans for ‘radical Islamic’ terrorists, 2016 and ‘that communist’ Bernie Sanders."

In the context of that interview, it's important to note that Trump's responses were non-committal. Furthermore, they were clearly in response to leading questions for which the actual phrasing wasn't even provided:

But Trump ... has concerns about the larger Muslim community here in the U.S., he said.

Yahoo News asked Trump whether his push for increased surveillance of American Muslims could include warrantless searches. He suggested he would consider a series of drastic measures.

“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule ... certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

Yahoo News asked Trump whether this level of tracking might require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion. He wouldn’t rule it out.

“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

Precisely how such a question was presented to Trump was not elaborated upon in the printed text of the interview, nor was what his exact response (not "rul[ing] it out") entailed. Moreover, the portions involving quotes were so exceptionally vague ("do things that we never did before," "certain things will be done") and full of obfuscation, it was impossible to discern even vaguely what Trump referenced. (The mandate of badges for Muslims was quite a leap by any measure.)

While it appeared Trump fielded a question about enhanced surveillance for Muslims and mosques, in no reasonable interpretation of the material provided did he himself suggest that followers of Islam should wear Holocaust-like badges as in Nazi Germany. That assertion appeared to be one fronted by the interviewer, and not fairly attributable to Donald Trump. It's true that Trump espoused a position many would deem objectionable or offensive in the little he did say, but the controversy hinged largely on words he didn't appear to have said.

On 20 November 2015, The New York Times published an article titled "Donald Trump Says He’d ‘Absolutely’ Require Muslims to Register." In that article Trump was pressed on his earlier statements, and he deflected the question in a similar vague fashion:

Donald J. Trump, who earlier in the week said he was open torequiring Muslims in the United States to register in a database, said on Thursday night that he “would certainly implement that — absolutely.”

Mr. Trump was asked about the issue by an NBC News reporter and pressed on whether all Muslims in the country would be forced to register. “They have to be,” he said. “They have to be.’’

When asked how a system of registering Muslims would be carried out — whether, for instance, mosques would be where people could register — Mr. Trump said: “Different places. You sign up at different places. But it’s all about management. Our country has no management.’’

Asked later, as he signed autographs, how such a database would be different from Jews having to register in Nazi Germany, Mr. Trump repeatedly said, “You tell me,” until he stopped responding to the question.

Last updated: 20 November 2015

Originally published: 19 November 2015

 

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He did in the first interview. But on the second, he is referring to the refugees that come in should have some sort of tracking. Do you agree?

I wasn't saying that he said it. I'm just saying it's not hard to say it.

Don't you usually discredit snopes?

 

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I wasn't saying that he said it. I'm just saying it's not hard to say it.

Don't you usually discredit snopes?

I discredit snopes for liberal bias. But this was such a lie that snopes couldn't ignore it, even with their bias

 

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http://www.dailywire.com/news/1269/no-donald-trump-doesnt-want-register-all-american-ben-shapiro

No, Donald Trump Doesn't Want to Register All American Muslims. It's Just Another Media Smear.

Today, the media declared Donald Trump a Nazi. Why? Well, according to outlets ranging from NBC News to The New York Times, Trump endorsed the idea of registering all Muslims in the United States with the government.

There’s only one problem: he didn’t.

To understand what Trump actually said, it’s necessary to understand that Trump is essentially a Magic 8 ball when it comes to answering media questions without full information. Trump’s 2016 slogan is “Make America Great Again,” but his secondary slogan could be, “Wing It With The Donald.” His go-to answer when he’s asked questions about topics he doesn’t really get is something along the lines of, “We’re going to have to look at that.”

With that in mind, here’s how the “Trump as Muslim-registering Nazi” meme got going.

As Joel Pollak writes at Breitbart News, the idea of a Muslim database originated not with Trump but with a reporter for Yahoo! Trump declined to answer the question, probably because he didn’t understand it or its implications. So he gave his go-to “I don’t get it” answer: “We’re going to have to – we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely. We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

CNN quickly jumped on the story. Sara Murray asked Trump about a national Muslim database – to which Trump answered that he had no idea “where you heard that…I never responded to that question.” When pressed, Trump insisted, correctly, “I never responded to that question.” He declined to answer the question again – again, because Trump never rules things out when he doesn’t understand the proposal at hand. He stalls.

That didn’t stop the headlines. Next, NBC decided to ask about the Muslim database that originated in the head of a Yahoo! News reporter. “Should there be a database system that tracks the Muslims here in this country?” Trump answered, “There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now, we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.”


It’s clear from this exchange that Trump believes the NBC reporter, Vaughn Hillyard, is asking about new Muslim immigrants, not all Muslims currently in the United States – which is totally plausible, given the wording of the questions. After all, Trump has been discussing Muslim refugees, which is the national conversation, not all Muslims; the reporter then asks about “the Muslims here in this country,” to which Trump says that he’d register new Muslim immigrants coming into the country: “It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people from coming into our country illegally.”

Registration of new immigrants, by the way, is exactly the proposal made by the Obama administration; visas are a method of registration.

But now Hillyard and Trump are talking past one another. Hillyard asks, “Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims of this country?” The question is now more clearly worded, but Trump doesn’t hear it: his answer is all about illegal immigration again: “There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today, you can do it. But right now we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall and we cannot let what’s happening to this country…” At which point Hillyard interrupts him, asking “Is that something your White House would like to do?” Trump answers, “I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.”

Later, Hillyard, thinking he’s got Trump on the hook for registering all Muslims in Gestapo-like fashion, not just new Muslim immigrants, says, “Mr. Trump, why would Muslim databases not be the same thing as requiring Jews to register in Nazi Germany?” Trump, puzzled and annoyed, says, “You tell me.”

The media has jumped on all of this to suggest that Trump not only favors a Muslim database, but originated the idea. Sam Stein, the smear artist reporter for The Huffington Post, tweeted about “Trump’s Muslim database idea.” Timereported, “Donald Trump Is In Favor Of Legally Requiring American Muslims to Register on a Database.” MSNBC reported, “Trump crosses new line, endorses database for American Muslims.”

It’s clear from the conversations that Trump doesn’t know he’s being asked by NBC about registering all American Muslims rather than merely Muslim immigrants. That’s not an excuse for his bloviation and lack of clarity. But it does show the hypocrisy, once again, of a leftist media that refuses to treat Democrats by the same standard. For example, when Hillary Clinton was asked at a New Hampshire town hall meeting about Australia’s mass gun confiscation, she gave a Trumpian answer: she said it was “worth looking at.” Unlike Trump, however, she understood the question, as was clear from her full response. There were no headlines in major media about Hillary endorsing wholesale gun confiscation.

That’s the way this game works. The media have learned Trump’s Magic 8 ball routine, so they’ll just begin asking him more and more ridiculous questions, waiting for him to say, “We’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” then label his cryptic answer an endorsement of their ridiculous policy proposals. Trump should be ready for it. So should Americans.

 

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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2..._claim_donald_trump_said_register_all_muslims

Drive-Bys Lie and Claim Donald Trump Said Register All Muslims
RUSH: The Drive-Bys are trying to destroy the two leading Republicans again today, Donald Trump and Ben Carson. They are doing a terrific job of taking Trump out of context. He was leaving the stage, I guess it was last night, he was doing a personal appearance somewhere, he was leaving the stage, he's finished, and a Drive-By gets amongst the autograph speakers and starts peppering him with questions. He answered a question and it's how the reporter is purposely misinterpreting it to say that Donald Trump last night said that he's in favor of a registration database of all Muslims in the US, and everybody in the Drive-Bys has run with it, and he didn't say it. We have the audio sound bite coming up to illustrate it.

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RUSH: Now, I don't know if you have seen it yet today. There are stories all over the Drive-By Media -- the Associated Press, Yahoo News, I mean, it's everywhere -- that Donald Trump supposedly is calling for the registration of all Muslims in America. Trump is demanding that they all be registered and that a massive database be collected. CNN is all over reporting this. Even the Wall Street Journal has picked up on it. There's a problem, though: Trump didn't say it. I'm gonna tell you what happened. At a recent public appearance Trump's coming off the stage after one of his usual one hour to 90-minute appearances.

He's probably worn out and spent, and there's the usual crowd of autograph seekers and supporters and fans, and amongst them is a Drive-By Media reporter who says to Trump, "Should there be a database system that tracks the Muslims that are in this country?" Trump says, "There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems, and today you can do it. But right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what's happening to this country happen again." Reporter: "Is that something your White House would like to implement?"

There's no specificity there. The question is just, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" Trump has given a multifaceted answer. She says, "Is that something," without specifying what she's asking about. Trump said, "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely," and that's how they report that Trump "demands a database and registration for all Muslims," when he didn't say it! He never said it. It's a Journalism 101 trick. It's right out of the manual they teach you at the first year of journalism school in how to destroy political opponents or powerful people you don't like. It's that common a technique.

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RUSH: Now, I'm not sure, but I think that the reporter that asked Trump the question and has totally, totally twisted this purposefully to convey something that did not happen, I think the reporter works for Business Insider. I think the reporter is Hunter Walker. If that's who it is, you need to know that this guy is a major backer of Hillary Clinton, as most in the Drive-By Media are. He has written endless articles championing her, and now I think he writes for Yahoo News and is the Business Insider politics editor.

So here is how this happened. This is in Newton, Iowa, yesterday after a campaign event. Trump's leaving the stage, and a reporter says, "Should there be a database system to track Muslims in this country?" Now, nobody has suggested that, keep in mind. Trump has not suggested it. So the reporter's not asking a question bouncing off anything Trump has said. It's just a question thrown at Trump, and it comes to him in the midst of autograph seekers and fans and supporters wanting to meet him after his performance is finished.

TRUMP: There should be a lot of systems beyond database. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength. We have to have a wall. And we cannot let what's happening to this country happen.

REPORTER: But is it something your White House would like to implement?

TRUMP: Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely.

REPORTER: What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work?

TRUMP: It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people from coming into our country illegally.

REPORTER: Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered into a database?

TRUMP: It would be just good management. What you have to do is good management procedures. And we can do that.

REPORTER: Would you go to mosques and sign these people up into the system?

TRUMP: Different places. You sign 'em up at different -- but it's all about management. Our country has no management.

RUSH: Okay. Now, two things about this. The first is, as I said, everybody in the Drive-By Media is running with this because they think they've got Trump again. They're salivating out there, folks, they are hoping, they've got their fingers crossed, they've doubled down, they're putting this story everywhere: Trump sexist, Trump bigoted, Trump anti-Muslim, wants a database; wants to go to their mosques to sign 'em up; wants to have them carry around symbols on their clothes to tell everybody who they are. And he never said it.

This reporter, Hunter Walker, retweeted the headline from the AP. The AP headline: "Trump Says He Would Absolutely Implement Muslim Database." This little know-nothing reporter is so proud of his work today. This, as I say, journalism 101. This is what they teach you when you want to take out a political opponent or a powerful person you don't like, this is how you do it, with innuendo.

Again, here's what happened. Trump comes offstage, "Should there be a database system that tracks Muslims that are in this country?" It's a setup question from the get-go. Nobody has suggested it. Trump said there should be a lot of systems beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it, but right now we have to have a border. We have to have strength. We have to have a wall, and we can't let what's happening to this country happen again.

He has not confirmed a database. He has not confirmed registration of Muslims. He's changed the question to his favorite subject, the wall and the border and keeping illegal immigrants out. The reporter says, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" Not specifying. If anything, the guy's talking about the border. The last thing Trump said in his answer was talking about the border, strength, a wall. The reporter says, "Is that something your White House would like to implement?" There is nothing specified. The use of the word "that," the reporter then can say, "Well, I meant Muslim registration, look what Trump said, Trump knew what I was talking about."

But Trump's answer was, "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely."

Reporter: "What do you think the effect of that would be?"

"It would stop people from coming in illegally." Trump's still talking about the border. He's still talking about the wall. He says, "We have to stop people from coming into this country illegally." So how in the world can Trump be talking about the registration of Muslims or anybody when he's still talking about keeping people out of the country? Muslims are here. This is a good, old-fashioned hatchet job by this low-rent reporter named Hunter Walker who's got everybody in the media reporting it the way he wants because this is what they want people to believe about Trump. This is what they believe about all Republicans. We're bigots, we're racists, sexists and so forth, and Trump's just come along and confirmed it. And I guarantee you there's a contest inside the Drive-By Media to see who can be the one to take Trump out.

Here is what they are forgetting. This isn't gonna hurt Trump. Even their journalistic malpractice is not gonna hurt Trump. They haven't figured that out. They keep applying standard, ordinary, everyday tactics on hit pieces to Donald Trump, and all that happens as a result is that Trump increases his support. Trump's support gets stronger. It gets deeper every time they try something like this because Trump is dead serious about protecting this country and its borders and keeping terrorists and so forth out of the country. He makes no bones about it. He's one of the only candidates that's unwavering on it. It's the number one issue.

And you combine what's happening with ISIS in Paris and border security, national security, protecting and defending the country and the people who live here is far and away the number one most important issue because everything descends from it. The economy descends from it. Jobs descend from it. Everything that matters descends from this country remaining a country. It has to have a border. That border has to be enforced. Trump's the only guy talking about. They think they've got him. They're gonna be crying in whatever it is they drink. This is not going to rip the bottom out of Trump's campaign. It's not gonna destroy Trump's campaign no matter how much they're lying, no matter how they try to distort this, because Trump did not say he's in favor of registration or a database of all Muslims in America.

And once again, what's gonna happen here is an ever increasingly aware and sophisticated public is gonna just get angrier and angrier at the usual childish tactics of the very unrespected Drive-By Media. Once the public learns what's happened here, the anger is not gonna be at Trump. There wouldn't have been that much anger at Trump anyway among his supporters. That's what they don't understand. You people in the media have got to understand something. You're gonna have to go about this a different way. You didn't make Trump; you can't destroy him. There's nothing you can do. And look at the lengths they're now going to try. Exactly what they did to Romney, by the way. This is no different than Harry Reid saying, "Mitt Romney hasn't paid his taxes in ten years." "Hey, look at Mitt Romney putting the family dog on top of the station wagon." "Hey, Mitt Romney, one of his employees' wives died of cancer, Romney didn't care, went ahead and canceled the health care plan, didn't care."

I don't think this guy's questions were even registering with Trump. I think Trump continued to talk with his own framework in mind, meaning his focus on the wall. Because if you continue on with the sound bite -- keep in mind here that Trump's never talked about registering or having a database of Muslims. The reporter asks a fake question: "Is that something your White House would do, like to implement?" Trump answers, "Yeah." He keeps talking about the wall. He keeps talking about the border. "Oh, I would certainly implement that, absolutely." Trump's still talking about the border.

The reporter says, "What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work?"

Trump: "It would stop people from coming in illegally." He's still talking about the border. He's still talking about his wall. "We have to stop people from coming in illegally."

Reporter: "For Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered in your database?" Trump has never said that he wants to register them in his database. He's talking about the wall. He's talking about the border. This idiot, talentless reporter says, "Well, for Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered in your database?" Trump says, "It would be good management. What you have to do is good management procedures, and we can do that." He's still talking about the wall. He's not even listening to this kid. He's walking out of there, he's answering the question, he's got it answered, he's on the wall, he's on the border, that's what he's talking about.

When it's all over the reporter makes it up that Trump's talking about registration of Muslims and a database. Totally makes it up. Anyway, I gotta take a break here. I just wanted you to see this. I wanted you to hear it, the reporter's own words, Trump's own words because it's been picked up everywhere, and, mark my words, the next poll that comes out, Trump's just gonna jump even higher and they're not gonna know what to do with themselves in the Drive-Bys. But you people in the media are gonna have to learn something. When you don't make somebody, you can't destroy him. And you haven't made Trump. The media has nothing to do with why Trump's where he is, and therefore you can't take him out. You can try, you may think you can, but he's got a bond, a connection with his supporters and his audience that you people are not gonna be able to break no matter how hard you try.

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RUSH: So you know how this works? I just got an e-mail from a friend of mine who plays around on Facebook, and he sent me a screenshot of his Facebook post that he sent out, and he wants me to know that he's on top things. He says, "Yeah, Trump wants to register all Muslims. The last guy that wanted to do that was Hitler with the Jews! Come on, folks! We're going backwards." So I just had to write him back: "Hey, buddy, you've got it 180 degrees wrong. Trump didn't say it!" This is a guy that reads the news all day. This is exactly how this happens. You've got every Drive-By news source now reporting this.

I'm not sure who the reporter was that actually got this whole thing started, but there are the suspects who have taken what that kid did and expanded it are all over the place. You could mention any Drive-By name out there and you'd be pretty close to being accurate about who did this. I'm not exactly sure who the reporter was at the Trump event. I was told one thing and now I'm told that that's not necessarily true. But the guy's name I gave you is still responsible for expanding, amplifying, and leading this. That Hunter Walker is who kicked it all off. Doesn't really matter.

I mean, they're all the same stripe, and they've all got the same objective here. And this e-mail I just got from a friend of mine -- who's not an idiot, and you know, he's not a casual consumer of news. It's in the Wall Street Journal. This guy's a financial guy. He read it in the Wall Street Journal, and the Wall Street Journal to these guys is gospel. I have tried to tell every friend of mine, and it's probably gone for naught. I've tried to tell them just based on the way I get covered, and they know me and they know what's written about me is all bogus. I said, "Could you not apply that to every story you hear, particularly about people you support?

"Could you just learn to not believe anything you read if it's defaming Republicans in the Drive-By Media? Could you just learn to be suspicious of it and try to confirm it on your own? (sigh) But it doesn't work that way. People believe it. "There it is! It's in print. It's right there," or, "It's on my screen, Rush! I mean, they can't write stuff that isn't true!" I can't tell you how often I hear that. So Trump's gonna... I don't know how he's gonna deal with this. He will, but... (sigh) Let me... I'm gonna go ahead and get in trouble myself here. Can I give you what I think might have happened with a lot of people when they first saw this BS story?

What do you think? You're driving around or you're reading or whatever and you hear, "Trump wants to register all Muslims!" (interruption) Yeah. (chuckles) Get my drift? So I'm just marveling here. I'm thankful for the opportunity. I'm thankful I haven't retired. I'm thankful I've still got this program and a chance to come here every day and illustrate the dishonest, the reprehensible, the just scummy way these people work. And each time I see something like this, I focus even more on, "They're not media!" This isn't media! This isn't the news. The media is the Democrat Party. The media is all part of the left-wing establishment that's trying to advance the Democrat Party agenda.

Every time I see a story like, "Trump has to fight media here or overcome media," I ask: Why would you have to overcome the media? The media's just a bunch of journalists telling people what happened who weren't there. (thumps table) Of course, this is the exact opposite. Everybody knows now, or many people. And even people who know what the media is, still get sucked in and believe this stuff. But when you read the transcript of what Trump said, when you actually read it or hear it and then compare it to the news being reported, you can't escape the fact that the media's making it up; that Trump never said it.

 

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Funny that the side that ran with the "you didn't build it" shit is upset now.

 

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