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@dviss1 Enough with the personal insults AND ENOUGH insulting people's family members.

@MarAzul enough with the personal insults.
 
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Spud147 said:
Should Idris and I ever meet in person I'm thrilled to say he's my agreed upon freebee with Mr. Spud... if you know what I mean. :smiley-vampsmoke:
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My wife gave me Gwen Stefani 15 years ago, in all that time she just looked Amazing. And then she got Shelton'd. She still looks great but now I (ME) don't wanna.
 
dviss1 said:
Do your own fucking research. I'm done trying to convince you of anything. You use Breitbart as a resource.
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That's what I fucking though.
You ain't got shit.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Bannon wasn't the Shadow President like y'all said. Just more liberal hysteria proven to be wrong.
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Anyway, how was it proven wrong? By Trump saying so?

barfo
 
barfo said:
Anyway, how was it proven wrong? By Trump saying so?

barfo
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Well, he's on the outs. Never really controlled anything in any capacity close to being the Shadow President.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Well, he's on the outs. Never really controlled anything in any capacity close to being the Shadow President.
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Obviously he is not now the shadow president. No one has said anything like that about him since he got pushed out of the White House.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Obviously he is not now the shadow president. No one has said anything like that about him since he got pushed out of the White House.

barfo
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He never was, otherwise he wouldn't have been pushed out. Its just more of this misplaced hyperbole by the unhinged left, who are freaking out for every little thing.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
He never was, otherwise he wouldn't have been pushed out. Its just more of this misplaced hyperbole by the unhinged left, who are freaking out for every little thing.
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So, nobody who has unofficial power ever loses it? Interesting thesis.

barfo
 
barfo said:
So, nobody who has unofficial power ever loses it? Interesting thesis.

barfo
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He never had it in the first place. They misplaced, psychotic liberal mindset was convinced that Bannon was the man controlling Trump. Then its Putin controlling Trump.

Neither one really ever did, it was just misguided liberal fantasies.
 
Minstrel said:
Yeah, that's your belief. You seemed to think that some proof of that had emerged, but what it is ain't exactly clear.
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So you think he was a mysterious shadow president that Trump obeyed his every piece of advice and controlled?
 
and Putin too. So basically whoever shows up, they are automatically the Shadow President?
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
So you think he was a mysterious shadow president that Trump obeyed his every piece of advice and controlled?
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No, though I think he had a lot of influence on Trump. Much like Dick Cheney, who I don't think was the "real President" in the Bush administration, but I think had outsized influence.

I was more asking you why you felt it was conclusively proven otherwise.
 
Minstrel said:
No, though I think he had a lot of influence on Trump. Much like Dick Cheney, who I don't think was the "real President" in the Bush administration, but I think had outsized influence.

I was more asking you why you felt it was conclusively proven otherwise.
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Nothing he did showed that he was controlling Trump. Advisors influence. That's what they do. He obviously didn't have that much control over Trump if he didn't last long as an advisor. They had disagreements. Trump is his own man, he's not getting controlled by anyone. Its almost hilarious to think so.

People were making it as if Bannon was the puppetmaster behind Trump and there was some vast left wing conspiracy to make America into Nazi germany.
 
What it all comes down to is the liberal fantasy that Trump is incompetent, can't tie his own shoes, blah blah blah. Therefore, they invent the narrative that since Trump is such an idiot, there's someone behind the scenes controlling him.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Nothing he did showed that he was controlling Trump. Advisors influence. That's what they do. He obviously didn't have that much control over Trump if he didn't last long as an advisor. They had disagreements. Trump is his own man, he's not getting controlled by anyone. Its almost hilarious to think so.

People were making it as if Bannon was the puppetmaster behind Trump and there was some vast left wing conspiracy to make America into Nazi germany.
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Yeah, the most extreme takes are usually not going to be right, but I think the main idea was that Bannon was the driving force behind Trump's ethno-nationalistic and economic nationalism themes. No one is ever literally controlled by another, but someone can create an agenda for the person who's in charge.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
What it all comes down to is the liberal fantasy that Trump is incompetent, can't tie his own shoes, blah blah blah. Therefore, they invent the narrative that since Trump is such an idiot, there's someone behind the scenes controlling him.
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I don't know if that's the liberal fantasy or not, but I think it will turn out to be the narrative pushed by conservatives.

"We didn't realize he was senile, of course it all makes sense now, but we had no way of knowing".

Senility (could happen to anyone!) will be a lot more appealing to conservatives than admitting they supported someone who was out-and-out corrupt.

barfo
 
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