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Maybe Trump wants to apologize to Putin for all of the illegal shit we've done and they'll kiss and make up.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
do you usually seek out relationships with crazy people?
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Not at all but you know that’s not the case at all in this situation. It’s to keep things cool. Do you really want to be on the bad side of crazy people?
 
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There are a couple major differences between the NK and Russian situations.

Russia just attempted assasination in the country of our greatest ally. Our duty is to stand with our ally’s who have just expressed the wish to punish not praise Russia.
NK on the other hand is threatening two very tight ally’s Japan and South Korea who both supported increased peace talks and American help in the situation.

So in one case we are working against our ally’s and in the other we are working with them.

The second major difference is that we did not invite Kim Jong Un to the Whitehorse, we are entering talks but not in the symbol of American freedom.

A third difference is that NK is a bad actor with their nuclear program but has not actually attacked America. Putin and Russia just attacked the 16 election and the heart of American democracy.



These issues don’t have to do with collusion, you are conflating two issues. Regardless of the Trump team, Russia did interfere with our election. To invite him to the Whitehouse is to basically say that wasn’t important.


I doubt the NK talks will be productive but I am not morally opposed to them. Inviting Putin to the Whitehouse on the other hand is despicable.
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There is no evidence they interfered with our election. It’s something that has been made up and chased down as a narrative for a while now and it makes no sense. I would put Kim and Putin on the same level of crazy. I don’t see the difference there at all. At least with North Korea you know they wouldn’t attack you. They are too poor to do anything and anytime they threat it’s just to posture up. Russia on the other hand has some serious nuclear power and could actually get crazy one day if they wanted to. I don’t see what’s wrong with establishing a line of communication so that we are on decent terms here
 
Cippy91 said:
There is no evidence they interfered with our election. It’s something that has been made up and chased down as a narrative for a while now and it makes no sense. I would put Kim and Putin on the same level of crazy. I don’t see the difference there at all. At least with North Korea you know they wouldn’t attack you. They are too poor to do anything and anytime they threat it’s just to posture up. Russia on the other hand has some serious nuclear power and could actually get crazy one day if they wanted to. I don’t see what’s wrong with establishing a line of communication so that we are on decent terms here
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There may not be proof of collusion, but there is plenty evidence of Russian interference. World flat too? Study up little buddy.
 
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There may not be proof of collusion, but there is plenty evidence of Russian interference. World flat too? Study up little buddy.
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Who is saying the world is flat? Because you are mad I said there is no Russia collusion? Okay? Don’t get in your feelings it’s not that big of a deal. I just know there really isn’t enough evidence and to continue that narrative only takes away from real corrupt shit trump has done or is doing.
 
Cippy91 said:
Who is saying the world is flat? Because you are mad I said there is no Russia collusion? Okay? Don’t get in your feelings it’s not that big of a deal. I just know there really isn’t enough evidence and to continue that narrative only takes away from real corrupt shit trump has done or is doing.
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Do you understand that there are two different issues.
1) Russian interference
2) collusion.

Different. You just said
Cippy91 said:
There is no evidence they interfered with our election.
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I responded that there may be no proof of collusion

And then you Said”Because you are mad I said there is no Russia collusion? Okay? ”

Good luck little buddy
 
Cippy91 said:
There is no evidence they interfered with our election. It’s something that has been made up and chased down as a narrative for a while now and it makes no sense. I would put Kim and Putin on the same level of crazy. I don’t see the difference there at all. At least with North Korea you know they wouldn’t attack you. They are too poor to do anything and anytime they threat it’s just to posture up. Russia on the other hand has some serious nuclear power and could actually get crazy one day if they wanted to. I don’t see what’s wrong with establishing a line of communication so that we are on decent terms here
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Wow, and where is your proof that Russia had nothing to do with the 2016 election? There has been ample evidence brought forward to show that Russia did interfere. Quick watching Fox News and listening to Trump as he is a serial liar. (and there is plenty of evidence to that as well)
 
CupWizier said:
Wow, and where is your proof that Russia had nothing to do with the 2016 election? There has been ample evidence brought forward to show that Russia did interfere. Quick watching Fox News and listening to Trump as he is a serial liar. (and there is plenty of evidence to that as well)
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What would make you believe I watch Fox News? See the issue is you are already on the defense putting me in the right wing box. I’m not. I don’t watch fox, I don’t watch cnn. The evidence shown isn’t good evidence. This hasn’t been a narrative pushed by left wing news outlets but there is simply no truth to it.
 
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Do you understand that there are two different issues.
1) Russian interference
2) collusion.

Different. You just said


I responded that there may be no proof of collusion

And then you Said”Because you are mad I said there is no Russia collusion? Okay? ”

Good luck little buddy
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Come on they are basically the same thing. By saying they interfered with the election means there would be a collusion. You can’t have one without the other and I don’t understand what calling me little buddy does to satisfy you but I mean okay sure.
 
Cippy91 said:
Come on they are basically the same thing. By saying they interfered with the election means there would be a collusion. You can’t have one without the other and I don’t understand what calling me little buddy does to satisfy you but I mean okay sure.
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They are not at all the same. Collusion means that Trump or somebody worked with the Russians to sway the election. That is still being investigated. But it is very well established that the Russians interfered.
 
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They are not at all the same. Collusion means that Trump or somebody worked with the Russians to sway the election. That is still being investigated. But it is very well established that the Russians interfered.
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I still don’t understand why everybody thinks Russia would purposely want trump to win. Hillary had a uranium deal done with them before, it’s not like she was anti Russia. That’s where the whole theory loses me. It makes no sense for them to want trump to win
 
Cippy91 said:
What would make you believe I watch Fox News? See the issue is you are already on the defense putting me in the right wing box. I’m not. I don’t watch fox, I don’t watch cnn. The evidence shown isn’t good evidence. This hasn’t been a narrative pushed by left wing news outlets but there is simply no truth to it.
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lol. you need to do some better research.
 
Cippy91 said:
I still don’t understand why everybody thinks Russia would purposely want trump to win. Hillary had a uranium deal done with them before, it’s not like she was anti Russia. That’s where the whole theory loses me. It makes no sense for them to want trump to win
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It does sound like they interfered to me. Not necessarily to get Trump elected, but to undermine our democracy. The same thing that we have done in the elections of multiple other countries.
 
Cippy91 said:
I still don’t understand why everybody thinks Russia would purposely want trump to win. Hillary had a uranium deal done with them before, it’s not like she was anti Russia. That’s where the whole theory loses me. It makes no sense for them to want trump to win
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Putin hated Clinton. A wll known fact.
 
I don't even think there is a country called Russia. I've never been there, I can't see it from my house, sounds like one more conspiracy made up by the liberal media.
 
Cippy91 said:
I still don’t understand why everybody thinks Russia would purposely want trump to win. Hillary had a uranium deal done with them before, it’s not like she was anti Russia. That’s where the whole theory loses me. It makes no sense for them to want trump to win
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The American intelligence agencies said it was mainly interference to sow dischord in the elective process at first, and then they selected Trump later.

Also the Uranium One thing is BS. Stop listening to right wing propaganda. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

It’s not a theory at this point.
 
Shaboid said:
It does sound like they interfered to me. Not necessarily to get Trump elected, but to undermine our democracy. The same thing that we have done in the elections of multiple other countries.
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I mean maybe? I just don’t see it I guess.
 
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The American intelligence agencies said it was mainly interference to sow dischord in the elective process at first, and then they selected Trump later.

Also the Uranium One thing is BS. Stop listening to right wing propaganda. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

It’s not a theory at this point.
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So you give me snopes, A well known left wing fact checker. Man. It’s not propaganda. That was a deal that did occur and though she wasn’t the only one involved signing off on it, she was a part of it. The American intelligence agencies have never been truthful in American history. Why believe them now through all the lame shit they have historically done? I mean if there is a narrative they as gonna help push it. I don’t see the connection. Wikileaks dropped the bomb on everybody through a leaker who worked for the dnc, hinted to be Seth rich by Julian assange, go figure he got murdered in a mysterious way. That was the big dnc leaks which kind of made people realize the person they were dealing with in Hillary Clinton and the podesta emails, etc. full on revealed the party screwed over Bernie Sanders and he ended up selling out for Hillary after that. Revealed all the strategies of Hillary. They actually wanted to go up against somebody like trump, they thought it would be easy. It all backfired and trump got elected. I don’t see where the Russians interfered here.
 
Cippy91 said:
So you give me snopes, A well known left wing fact checker. Man. It’s not propaganda. That was a deal that did occur and though she wasn’t the only one involved signing off on it, she was a part of it. The American intelligence agencies have never been truthful in American history. Why believe them now through all the lame shit they have historically done? I mean if there is a narrative they as gonna help push it. I don’t see the connection. Wikileaks dropped the bomb on everybody through a leaker who worked for the dnc, hinted to be Seth rich by Julian assange, go figure he got murdered in a mysterious way. That was the big dnc leaks which kind of made people realize the person they were dealing with in Hillary Clinton and the podesta emails, etc. full on revealed the party screwed over Bernie Sanders and he ended up selling out for Hillary after that. Revealed all the strategies of Hillary. They actually wanted to go up against somebody like trump, they thought it would be easy. It all backfired and trump got elected. I don’t see where the Russians interfered here.
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Good luck
 
Cippy91 said:
Okay. I was having a conversation but I guess I am not worthy to continue with anymore. Lol
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A conversation ends if logic fails. You choose to believe a story by Breitbart (the most sensationalistic Right-wing rag) and yet dismiss snoops as being left. If facts don’t matter I’m not going to waste my time.
 
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A conversation ends if logic fails. You choose to believe a story by Breitbart (the most sensationalistic Right-wing rag) and yet dismiss snoops as being left. If facts don’t matter I’m not going to waste my time.
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Because snopes is left. Where have I quoted or referenced Breitbart? I was referencing wikileaks which by the way hasn't been proven wrong. Ever. So explain to me in what I typed to you what is straight from Breitbart because if I had to guess it would be that I dropped a little too much information on you that maybe you couldn't handle. This is the typical left wing shutdown of conversation.
"you probably think the earth is flat little buddy"
"You choose to believe a story by breitbart".

Where is this coming from? it's just an easy way for you to shutdown conversation and not have to continue anymore.
 
Cippy91 said:
Because snopes is left. Where have I quoted or referenced Breitbart? I was referencing wikileaks which by the way hasn't been proven wrong. Ever. So explain to me in what I typed to you what is straight from Breitbart because if I had to guess it would be that I dropped a little too much information on you that maybe you couldn't handle. This is the typical left wing shutdown of conversation.
"you probably think the earth is flat little buddy"
"You choose to believe a story by breitbart".

Where is this coming from? it's just an easy way for you to shutdown conversation and not have to continue anymore.
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The uranium one controversy was started by Peter Schweizer, a Breitbart guy.
 
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The uranium one controversy was started by Peter Schweizer, a Breitbart guy.
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I never even cited Breitbart. I never even said it was all Hillary. I just said she was part of that deal, a large group of people were. I am guessing anything bad Hillary has been apart of is all from Breitbart and is a lie. I laid it all out for you after that about wikileaks. Your response was good luck because you had nothing to respond with
 
Cippy91 said:
I never even cited Breitbart. I never even said it was all Hillary. I just said she was part of that deal, a large group of people were. I am guessing anything bad Hillary has been apart of is all from Breitbart and is a lie. I laid it all out for you after that about wikileaks. Your response was good luck because you had nothing to respond with
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You cited a story that was originated by Breitbart. A bullshit story. Yet you casually toss aside snopes while taking right wing horseshit as gospel. That’s fine, but it shuts down conversation. It means facts don’t matter. So I’m not going to spend my time arguing where facts don’t matter.
 
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You cited a story that was originated by Breitbart. A bullshit story. Yet you casually toss aside snopes while taking right wing horseshit as gospel. That’s fine, but it shuts down conversation. It means facts don’t matter. So I’m not going to spend my time arguing where facts don’t matter.
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Breitbart claimed it was all Hillary who signed off on this deal all by herself when in reality it was her and a group of people. She denies it but lets be real. So because of this one thing, you think I believe facts don't matter where here I am straightening it. I believe she signed off on it along with the others, if she didn't it still doesn't derail the conversation because that's not even what it was about. I just had told you everything about wikileaks yet you pick out something I had briefly mentioned prior to that and now you shut it all down. I mean fine, okay if that's what you want to do.
 
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