OT Trump; "just reach out and grab 'em by the", well, you know.

[yankeesince59]

Sure but they can matter to you and I. I dont like Trump either and heck I wouldnt give him the benefit of the doubt, or be at all shocked if he did this and has many women out there who have had similar awful experiences at his hands, but you’re upset that his “minions” are letting their feelings get in the way of facts and truth, we can do the same in instances like this or we can desire the truth.

I'm on your side but what I'm really upset about is that the facts that "matter to you and I" are being distorted, ignored, denied, etc., by Trump and his minions. A large portion of the American people being served a fraudulent kettle of fish...and unfortunately, another portion of Americans are regaling in that same kettle of fish.

 

[yankeesince59]

I wonder if this country is ever going to be able to have a “conventional” presidency again. It seems like as soon as the other side takes office, the right is going to be out for vengeance and out will come the scandals, inquiries, lawsuits etc. much like what we’re seeing now. I’m not saying Trump is innocent of all the shit he gets accused of, but a fair portion of it is bullshit. I just wonder if this is what the presidency is going to be from now on, regardless of party. Just a soap opera to keep people from paying attention to all the fucked up shit that’s really going on. I bet all the corporatists and Wall Street scumbags love this shit. It’s like party time cuz mom and dad aren’t home.

Unfortunately, there is so much hate and distrust between the Dems and Reps in the House and the Senate as well as their followers, I'm not sure either party will survive it. Though it's been somewhat like that for years, IMO, Trump has magnified it.

I've never really understood the need for 2 parties because they cannot agree on the color of shit. They're so dysfunctional that I don't know how they get anything done.

Who knows...Maybe they'll morph into a singular "common sense" party...just spitballing.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I'm on your side but what I'm really upset about is that the facts that "matter to you and I" are being distorted, ignored, denied, etc., by Trump and his minions. A large portion of the American people being served a fraudulent kettle of fish...and unfortunately, another portion of Americans are regaling in that same kettle of fish.

Ive commented here before that I think one of the the things that makes living today very interesting is there a crazy amount of information, but finding the truth seems increasingly difficult, and personally I feel like there are so many parties actively working at keeping the truth hidden.

 

[yankeesince59]

Ive commented here before that I think one of the the things that makes living today very interesting is there a crazy amount of information, but finding the truth seems increasingly difficult, and personally I feel like there are so many parties actively working at keeping the truth hidden.

Most definitely.

 

[Chris Craig]

As he should have been as a sitting (or whatever position he was in) President.

Yeah not arguing that

 

[The Professional Fan]

Not sure why Trump denies anything anymore when just saying yeah I did and you can't do anything about it, has worked so well for him.

He could just say yeah I grabbed her by the pussy and nothing will happen

We're absolutely 100% at that point. It's happening with the quid pro quo

 

[calvin natt]

I think we will get to the point that nobody with any sort of a checkered past will want to be President because they know every single thing about them is going to come out (fine with me). Or I suppose, we get to the point where nobody cares anymore about your past unless it a felony, which I am sure disqualifies you from running? Everything else will just be a huge shoulder shrug emoji.

 

[julius]

I think we will get to the point that nobody with any sort of a checkered past will want to be President because they know every single thing about them is going to come out (fine with me). Or I suppose, we get to the point where nobody cares anymore about your past unless it a felony, which I am sure disqualifies you from running? Everything else will just be a huge shoulder shrug emoji.

One party is much better at eating it's own. The other just claims fake news and promotes them.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I think we will get to the point that nobody with any sort of a checkered past will want to be President because they know every single thing about them is going to come out (fine with me). Or I suppose, we get to the point where nobody cares anymore about your past unless it a felony, which I am sure disqualifies you from running? Everything else will just be a huge shoulder shrug emoji.

Who doesn't have some sort of checkered past though?
I think option two is more likely and seems to be getting there, people just don't seem to care, you do a few policies that people like and they'll excuse away whatever behavior you exhibit.

 

[calvin natt]

Who doesn't have some sort of checkered past though?
I think option two is more likely and seems to be getting there, people just don't seem to care, you do a few policies that people like and they'll excuse away whatever behavior you exhibit.

I think a lot of people don't have anything from their past that would be problematic. I'm not talking "oh no he got drunk at a halloween party in '96", but Trumpkin stuff, like sexual assault.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I think a lot of people don't have anything from their past that would be problematic. I'm not talking "oh no he got drunk at a halloween party in '96", but Trumpkin stuff, like sexual assault.

Yeah, I understand, there's like "degrees" of checkered past stuff. Some of the stuff that people do get pissed off about are so silly, then it's like oh but he raped a lady, apparently that's alright... smh.

 

[Lanny]

I never know what to think about these things. A) If anyone is raped or sexually harassed, etc., it's paramount to a good society that they are encouraged to tell the truth, without fear of being shamed. B) If a person lies about being raped or molested or sexually abused, there definitely need to be ramifications for that. C) I don't think a picture of being together 30 years ago proves much, I'm not even sure it means Trump was lying on this occasion. I'm sure someone could pull up a picture of all of us talking to or having some interaction with someone we don't really know... I've been to parties in college, with people if asked about today I wouldn't have any clue whatsoever who they are...

To address some of the posts above, it's not so much putting my faith in either party here, but I want the facts to come out. Which unfortunately if it was 25-30 years ago, "facts" will be very hard to come by.

I hope if anything happened to her, that he pays for it.

Okay, I have a pretty good memory. I could probably recall 99% of the people that were in a picture with me. If you're talking about someone I had sex with or groped my memory would be more like 100%.
Thankfully, I'm not Trump and have no reason to not remember stuff.

 

[Lanny]

I think a lot of people don't have anything from their past that would be problematic. I'm not talking "oh no he got drunk at a halloween party in '96", but Trumpkin stuff, like sexual assault.

Thank God I haven't been drunk since 1984 and I'm younger than Trump.

 

[yankeesince59]

Yeah, I understand, there's like "degrees" of checkered past stuff. Some of the stuff that people do get pissed off about are so silly, then it's like oh but he raped a lady, apparently that's alright... smh.

..."50 shades of grey"?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]