Politics Trump pardons Sheriff Joe Arpaio

[bodyman5000 and 1]

If a cop pulls over a white guy with AR15 bumper stickers on his truck he should just stroll on up casually as if there is nothing out of the ordinary about this person?

 

[Minstrel]

Ahh, the action is racist.

So a cop who believes in racial equality can't believe that a stereotypical gang banger exists and he or she needs to be more careful around someone who fits that description?

A black cop who is more afraid of the black dude in a 64 is ...

Racist?
Tricked by the media?
Dumb?


If he is more afraid but doesn't do anything differently than if he pulls over my grandmother in her Taurus does that make people happy?

Is that where we are now. Everyone is the same no matter what outward signals we project?

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here. I've never said that no context should be used in terms of how wary or careful a cop is. But if, given the same situation and context other than skin color, you take a different action because you perceive someone of one skin color to be more dangerous to someone of another skin color, I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that that action is racist.

You seemed to consider quite meaningful my saying that the action is racist as opposed to going straight into "the cop is racist," but that is an important distinction. You can do something dumb without necessarily being a dumb person. You can do something clumsy without necessarily being a clumsy person. While an action may be racist, I don't think that instantly means the person should be a labeled a racist. Just as there's no hard and fast line you need to cross to go from "smart" to "dumb," there's no hard and fast line you need to cross to go from "generally not racist" to "generally racist." Who one deems to be generally racist is a judgment call based on all their statements and actions (that one is aware of).

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here. I've never said that no context should be used in terms of how wary or careful a cop is. But if, given the same situation and context other than skin color, you take a different action because you perceive someone of one skin color to be more dangerous to someone of another skin color, I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that that action is racist.

You seemed to consider quite meaningful my saying that the action is racist as opposed to going straight into "the cop is racist," but that is an important distinction. You can do something dumb without necessarily being a dumb person. You can do something clumsy without necessarily being a clumsy person. While an action may be racist, I don't think that instantly means the person should be a labeled a racist. Just as there's no hard and fast line you need to cross to go from "smart" to "dumb," there's no hard and fast line you need to cross to go from "generally not racist" to "generally racist." Who one deems to be generally racist is a judgment call based on all their statements and actions (that one is aware of).

So sheriff Arpaio isn't racist?

 

[Minstrel]

So sheriff Arpaio isn't racist?

I think he is. It certainly seems like he has a long, long history of discriminating against people solely due to the color of their skin. It's not like he had a single isolated incident of prejudice or something.

 

[Cippy91]

So, following B...... Every cop that has ever been more careful pulling over a black guy in a 64 on hydraulics is a racist no matter what they say?

According to the left yes, this is racist even if it's in an area that is statistically crime ridden. Makes no sense but hey everybody has different definitions of racism I guess

 

[Cippy91]

Ahh, the action is racist.

So a cop who believes in racial equality can't believe that a stereotypical gang banger exists and he or she needs to be more careful around someone who fits that description?

A black cop who is more afraid of the black dude in a 64 is ...

Racist?
Tricked by the media?
Dumb?


If he is more afraid but doesn't do anything differently than if he pulls over my grandmother in her Taurus does that make people happy?

Is that where we are now. Everyone is the same no matter what outward signals we project?

If I see a white dude with fuckin full body tats and looks gnarly, I'm staying away.mif I see a black dude, pants hanging looks a certain way. I'm staying away. Looks like I'm racist towards everybody!

 

[Orion Bailey]

If I see a white dude with fuckin full body tats and looks gnarly, I'm staying away.mif I see a black dude, pants hanging looks a certain way. I'm staying away. Looks like I'm racist towards everybody!

That's why I say it's a lifestyle/ cultural stance. Not a racial stance.

 

[Cippy91]

That's why I say it's a lifestyle/ cultural stance. Not a racial stance.

For whatever reason these days people don't understand the difference. Or they don't want to. A bad neighborhood is a bad neighborhood whether the people that make it up are black, white, Hispanic. Shits not racist just because I don't wanna be anywhere around people in those areas but according to the social experts it's racist.

It's common sense.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

For whatever reason these days people don't understand the difference. Or they don't want to. A bad neighborhood is a bad neighborhood whether the people that make it up are black, white, Hispanic. Shits not racist just because I don't wanna be anywhere around people in those areas but according to the social experts it's racist.

It's common sense.

Common sense of us racists. Duh.

You should get to know the white guy with tattoos on his face. Especially tear drops around the eyes. It shows he is super sensitive.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think he is. It certainly seems like he has a long, long history of discriminating against people solely due to the color of their skin. It's not like he had a single isolated incident of prejudice or something.

How many incidents does it take?

Is that like a Tootsie roll lollipop?

 

[Minstrel]

How many incidents does it take?

Is that like a Tootsie roll lollipop?

Just as there's no hard and fast line you need to cross to go from "smart" to "dumb," there's no hard and fast line you need to cross to go from "generally not racist" to "generally racist." Who one deems to be generally racist is a judgment call based on all their statements and actions (that one is aware of).

 

[stampedehero]

Trump has no "timing". Is he in our universe?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

So, whatever you feeeeeeeel like. Got it

 

[Minstrel]

So, whatever you feeeeeeeel like. Got it

Yup. Pretty much how we judge anything, good or bad.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yup. Pretty much how we judge anything, good or bad.

I'm sure he's racist as hell. Just playing.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Guys, nothing is racist now. Denny has set us all free by reinterpreting the dictionary!

You can do anything to anyone for any reason as long as you don't SAY anything a racist would. Seriously! New DennyRule! If you don't say anything racist then what you're doing is only racial.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

 

[barfo]

Finally, an end to racism. I think this board has also eliminated fascism and homophobia.

Let's move on to bigger fish. Cancer. I say nobody dies of cancer. Who's with me?

Definition of cancer

1. : a northern zodiacal constellation between Gemini and Leo (1) : the fourth sign of the zodiac in astrology — see zodiac table (2) : one born under the sign of Cancer I'm a Taurus, but my best friend is a Cancer.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

nothing is racist now

As it should be. Everyone just needs an attitude adjustment. Instead of seeing everything as racist as you liberals will do, you need to look on the bright side an see the things some folk are better equipped to handle. Once you do that, then your mind will be open to complimentary collaboration. No need at all in hounding the shit out others, but you will need a new shtick.

 

[barfo]

As it should be. Everyone just needs an attitude adjustment. Instead of seeing everything as racist as you liberals will do, you need to look on the bright side an see the things white folk are better equipped to handle. Once you do that, then your mind will be open to complimentary collaboration. No need at all in hounding the shit out others, but you will need a new shtick.

MTMERFY.

(made that more explicitly racist for you)

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

MTMERFY.

(made that more explicitly racist for you)

barfo

Probably a unfounded hope for you barf.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

As it should be. Everyone just needs an attitude adjustment. Instead of seeing everything as racist as you liberals will do, you need to look on the bright side an see the things some folk are better equipped to handle. Once you do that, then your mind will be open to complimentary collaboration. No need at all in hounding the shit out others, but you will need a new shtick.

 

[Minstrel]

As it should be. Everyone just needs an attitude adjustment. Instead of seeing everything as racist as you liberals will do, you need to look on the bright side an see the things some folk are better equipped to handle. Once you do that, then your mind will be open to complimentary collaboration. No need at all in hounding the shit out others, but you will need a new shtick.

Yup, complementary collaboration. If everyone would just stick to the things their races were good at, we'd form a harmonious whole, like a racial Voltron.

 

[MarAzul]

If everyone would just stick to the things their races were good at

Oh, you haven't got the hang of it at all. Exploiting the things your good at, it works quit well. Try it, see if you like it. You need not worry you head about your race.

 

[Minstrel]

Exploiting the things your good at, it works quit well.

Indeed. What does that have to do with a discussion of racialism?

 

[MarAzul]

Indeed. What does that have to do with a discussion of racialism?

Nothing! You are catching on quick.
As Sly said,

Guys, nothing is racist now.

 

[Minstrel]

Nothing! You are catching on quick.
As Sly said,

Of course nothing is racist. But lots of things are racial. That's why I asked what it had to do with a discussion of racialism, not racism.

 

[MarAzul]

Of course nothing is racist. But lots of things are racial. That's why I asked what it had to do with a discussion of racialism, not racism.

Well go ahead if you want to pursue it.
Do you have some racial qualities to exploit?

 

[MickZagger]

Yes, 6 long long months.

Which with jail overcrowding means he would have been forced to clean up garbage alongside the freeway for 6 weekends rather than spend a night behind bars.

Cruel... so very cruel.

He should've had to be on a chain gain in the summer heat and wore pink underwear.

 

[MarAzul]

Yes, 6 long long months.

Which with jail overcrowding means he would have been forced to clean up garbage alongside the freeway for 6 weekends rather than spend a night behind bars.

Cruel... so very cruel.

Did Sly really post this?

 

[Minstrel]

Well go ahead if you want to pursue it.

I, personally, don't think that's a particularly fruitful avenue to pursue, but I was wondering if you meant to pursue it. I assumed that's what you meant by "complementary collaboration," since you dropped into a discussion of racialism, but now you seem not to be discussing racialism at all.