Politics Trump proposals that I actually like

[Phatguysrule]

Bidens executive order on day one got rid of the stay in mexico policy trump had in place, thus allowing immigrants to stay in US while waiting for next step.

So, if they are documented and waiting for the next step then they are legal, documented immigrants.

What's the problem?

Trump also stopped flying in immigrants from other countries like BIden was doing, even though he originally was saying they wernt doing this until they got caught on video on tarmac is cities letting people off.

So again, these are legal, documented immigrants you are having a problem with.

It sounds like you are opposed to immigration in general, not just illegal immigration.

Am I misunderstanding?

 

[Galakelife]

So, if they are documented and waiting for the next step then they are legal, documented immigrants.

What's the problem?



So again, these are legal, documented immigrants you are having a problem with.

It sounds like you are opposed to immigration in general, not just illegal immigration.

Am I misunderstanding?

Problem is that is a weak immigration policy that lets anybody in without vetting. They also live on tax payers dime while they wait for their appointment.
Wouldnt you rather take this money and help Americans or vets that need the money?

WE are in debt $36 trillions dollars, we can't afford to pay for 12 million more immigrants every 4 years.

If you believe the policies put in place by Biden were good for America then we have nothing to discuss, America first....When r you Dems/Libs realize you are now in the minority of most americans on the issues we are discussing on this board. yes on this board 80% of the people have more liberals views, but that is not true for most of America anymore. People saw what happened under Biden and decided that was not a good direction.

 

[barfo]

Stopping making pennies is going to make us spend more not less. We will have to make more nickels to make up for no pennies. Nickels cost over 4 times what it costs to make a penny. We will be spending millions more not saving millions.

We could probably get rid of the nickels as well.

Might not be a bad idea to get rid of cash altogether. What would be the downside of that, besides inconveniencing criminals?

barfo

 

[Everything Beagle]

We could probably get rid of the nickels as well.

Might not be a bad idea to get rid of cash altogether. What would be the downside of that, besides inconveniencing criminals?

barfo

I’m going to assume this is sarcasm, but just in case:

Who is a “criminal” would be defined by the trump administration

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Problem is that is a weak immigration policy that lets anybody in without vetting. They also live on tax payers dime while they wait for their appointment.
Wouldnt you rather take this money and help Americans or vets that need the money?

WE are in debt $36 trillions dollars, we can't afford to pay for 12 million more immigrants every 4 years.

If you believe the policies put in place by Biden were good for America then we have nothing to discuss, America first....When r you Dems/Libs realize you are now in the minority of most americans on the issues we are discussing on this board. yes on this board 80% of the people have more liberals views, but that is not true for most of America anymore. People saw what happened under Biden and decided that was not a good direction.

I'm struggling to understand why immigration issues are dumped at the feet of the Democrats. The immigration "issue" started in the late '60's (with proper documentation required) under a Republican administration. In the 56 years since, Republican have held the presidency for 32 of those years. In the last ~20 plus years bipartisan attempts have been made to fix (or at least seriously alleviate) the issue. The first time, GW Bush queered the deal at the request of his rich agricultural buddies who did not want to lose their source of cheap labor. The second time was during the Biden administration. In this instance, the Democrats gave the Republicans virtually everything they asked for, but the Republicans pissed down the legs of America because Trump (who wasn't yet elected) didn't want to give the Democrats a win. Quit rewriting history (unless you are actually Donald Trump).

And quit playing the "poor Americans who need it" card. You look stupid when you say that in light of everything your boy is doing to shit on the average American. Unless you only read right wing propaganda you HAVE to know exactly what he is taking away from the average Joe. And before you start speaking for the rest of America you might want to see how the 2026 midterms go. It will be very interesting to see just how much bigger that $36 Trillion debt has gotten under "America's Savior". And yeah, many of the policies put in place by Biden WERE good for Americans. Sorry you are so fixated on poor foreign brown people. End of discussion.

 

[barfo]

I’m going to assume this is sarcasm, but just in case:

Who is a “criminal” would be defined by the trump administration

Sure, but that's true anyway.

Not sarcasm, but it was a question. I appreciate you are in a somewhat different position than me, but, given that the whole point of crypto is to hide transactions from spying eyes, is there a reason to prefer cash to crypto?

barfo

 

[Everything Beagle]

Sure, but that's true anyway.

Not sarcasm, but it was a question. I appreciate you are in a somewhat different position than me, but, given that the whole point of crypto is to hide transactions from spying eyes, is there a reason to prefer cash to crypto?

barfo

crypto is pretty easy to track actually, and there are many cases of trivially reverse engineering wallet numbers. Add to that the length of time it takes to certify a transaction (hours) and the extra steps turning fake money into real money… crypto is useless unless you’re already a sheeple.

I can’t give a homeless person 0.0001 bitcoin to buy a hot meal. Which is the reason the system prefers crypto/credit to cash.

 

[Everything Beagle]

I wonder how many of you Good Liberals are going to roll over and support Nazis to get by in the new world order.

 

[barfo]

crypto is pretty easy to track actually, and there are many cases of trivially reverse engineering wallet numbers. Add to that the length of time it takes to certify a transaction (hours) and the extra steps turning fake money into real money… crypto is useless unless you’re already a sheeple.

I can’t give a homeless person 0.0001 bitcoin to buy a hot meal. Which is the reason the system prefers crypto/credit to cash.

Ok, well, pirates don't accept crypto, so I wouldn't have known.
Certainly the homeless guy is a good point.
Thanks for answering, appreciated.

barfo

 

[Galakelife]

I'm struggling to understand why immigration issues are dumped at the feet of the Democrats. The immigration "issue" started in the late '60's (with proper documentation required) under a Republican administration. In the 56 years since, Republican have held the presidency for 32 of those years. In the last ~20 plus years bipartisan attempts have been made to fix (or at least seriously alleviate) the issue. The first time, GW Bush queered the deal at the request of his rich agricultural buddies who did not want to lose their source of cheap labor. The second time was during the Biden administration. In this instance, the Democrats gave the Republicans virtually everything they asked for, but the Republicans pissed down the legs of America because Trump (who wasn't yet elected) didn't want to give the Democrats a win. Quit rewriting history (unless you are actually Donald Trump).

And quit playing the "poor Americans who need it" card. You look stupid when you say that in light of everything your boy is doing to shit on the average American. Unless you only read right wing propaganda you HAVE to know exactly what he is taking away from the average Joe. And before you start speaking for the rest of America you might want to see how the 2026 midterms go. It will be very interesting to see just how much bigger that $36 Trillion debt has gotten under "America's Savior". And yeah, many of the policies put in place by Biden WERE good for Americans. Sorry you are so fixated on poor foreign brown people. End of discussion.

why end of discussion.....because you said so?
I look stupid because i put Americans first....sure.
So i cant say anything for 2 years until the midterms....ok so then nobody else gets to say anything on this board in the OT section until then. sounds good since i just get to sit back and enjoy the ride.
Since we are done since the midterms i guess this is the end of discussion.
talk to you in 2026.

 

[Everything Beagle]

In other immigration news

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

why end of discussion.....because you said so?
I look stupid because i put Americans first....sure.
So i cant say anything for 2 years until the midterms....ok so then nobody else gets to say anything on this board in the OT section until then. sounds good since i just get to sit back and enjoy the ride.
Since we are done since the midterms i guess this is the end of discussion.
talk to you in 2026.

Dumb shit. YOU are the one who said there was nothing to discuss if anyone thought Biden helped the American people. I disagreed so there is nothing further to discuss, just as YOU decreed. Try to keep up. See you in 2026.

 

[Chris Craig]

We could probably get rid of the nickels as well.

Might not be a bad idea to get rid of cash altogether. What would be the downside of that, besides inconveniencing criminals?

barfo

Then we'd have to make more dimes. Same issue.

 

[barfo]

Then we'd have to make more dimes. Same issue.

No, dimes only cost 6 cents to make, according to the Google machine.

barfo

 

[barfo]

No, dimes only cost 6 cents to make, according to the Google machine.

barfo

So if we don't want to get rid of cash entirely, how about just getting rid of coinage? Make $1 the lowest denomination?

Any downsides?

barfo

 

[Chris Craig]

No, dimes only cost 6 cents to make, according to the Google machine.

barfo

Oh ok...well that's good

 

[riverman]

I look stupid because i put Americans first....sure.

I'm an American, so is my immigrant first generation wife...your guy wants white South African immigrants but not black South African immigrants or Asian South African immigrants...pretty clear what ideology you subscribe to when it comes to Americans first! My American first generation wife or some South African non American white person? Which one gets hassled at the airport? Give you one guess. Those brown people you're afraid of have been on this continent for 15 thousand years...your white good old boy club has been around a few hundred years. Which one is the native to the land eh? As an American I want my country to welcome the poor, downtrodden and oppressed with a future of freedom and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Why don't you? Do you believe in Trump's tainted immigrant gene pool theory? You need to put Americans like my wife and I first! American values are not isolationistic.

 

[Phatguysrule]

We could probably get rid of the nickels as well.

Might not be a bad idea to get rid of cash altogether. What would be the downside of that, besides inconveniencing criminals?

barfo

Cryptocurrency is even more convenient than cash...

 

[Hoopguru]

That would be brilliant. The southern border wall would be a lot shorter and maybe he could actually, as a state, make Mexico pay for it.

One he takes out the cartel Mexico's ours. Trump's vision is one common country between US, Canada, and Mexico...de-globalization United Three of America

 

[Everything Beagle]

Cryptocurrency is even more convenient than cash...

Jesus just stop.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Jesus just stop.

It depends on what you're doing. I never had any problems.

 

[THE HCP]

Problem is that is a weak immigration policy that lets anybody in without vetting. They also live on tax payers dime while they wait for their appointment.
Wouldnt you rather take this money and help Americans or vets that need the money?

WE are in debt $36 trillions dollars, we can't afford to pay for 12 million more immigrants every 4 years.

If you believe the policies put in place by Biden were good for America then we have nothing to discuss, America first....When r you Dems/Libs realize you are now in the minority of most americans on the issues we are discussing on this board. yes on this board 80% of the people have more liberals views, but that is not true for most of America anymore. People saw what happened under Biden and decided that was not a good direction.

Are you and your family Native Americans?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Problem is that is a weak immigration policy that lets anybody in without vetting.

But you were just talking about documented immigrants who were in the process of being vetted...

They also live on tax payers dime while they wait for their appointment.

I don't believe this is the case. They are free to work and they tend to do so. And they pay sales tax as well as income taxes. Even illegals do.

Wouldnt you rather take this money and help Americans or vets that need the money?

From everything I've seen immigrants pay their own way. I never have immigrants asking for money on the street corners... There is an unaccounted for trillion dollar + benefit being pumped into the US economy every year. Most people think that this is from illegal immigrants, but since they aren't documented it can't be proven. But there isn't any other logical source...

2nd generation immigrants (legal or illegal) are the most productive members of American society. And both immigrants and illegal immigrants commit crime at lower rates than natural born Americans.

So I really don't want to take all of this benefit away from our country. I'd rather we just work on making a streamlined system that is less likely to be abused.

WE are in debt $36 trillions dollars, we can't afford to pay for 12 million more immigrants every 4 years.

As we just discussed, I really don't believe they are a net negative.

If you believe the policies put in place by Biden were good for America then we have nothing to discuss, America first....

I didn't say Biden's policies were good. I asked about which of his policies you thought was bad. You complained about legally documented immigrants.

When r you Dems/Libs realize you are now in the minority of most americans on the issues we are discussing on this board. yes on this board 80% of the people have more liberals views, but that is not true for most of America anymore. People saw what happened under Biden and decided that was not a good direction.

Propaganda is very effective. And Democrats have been corrupt enough that they have trouble holding their heads high against even Trump.

They haven't been as corrupt as Republicans. But they certainly haven't done the people many favors.

That's catching up to them, and Trump is the perfect person to take advantage of that. As terrifying as that is for me.

 

[Phatguysrule]

One he takes out the cartel Mexico's ours. Trump's vision is one common country between US, Canada, and Mexico...de-globalization United Three of America

 

[crandc]

why end of discussion.....because you said so?
I look stupid because i put Americans first....sure.
So i cant say anything for 2 years until the midterms....ok so then nobody else gets to say anything on this board in the OT section until then. sounds good since i just get to sit back and enjoy the ride.
Since we are done since the midterms i guess this is the end of discussion.
talk to you in 2026.

You put Americans first? Who is American? My Black transgender Buddhist neighbor? My trans nephew? Me, Jewish lesbian? The Americans who recovered $17 billion ripped off from us by greedy corporations thanks to Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? The Americans who stand to lose resources for special education if Department of Education shuts down? The American workers who were just told their vote to unionize can't be certified because National Labor Relations Board no longer has quorum? The American taxpayers whose financial data is now in the hands of Elon Musk? The thousands of American workers being ordered to quit their jobs? The American scientists at National Institute of Health whose work is stopped? The Venezuelan Americans who turned out for Trump, even recent arrivals who couldn't vote displayed Trump signs, and he removed their temporary protected status? So their relatives are deported? The children who will get measles and polio?
Just who is a fucking American to you?

 

[crandc]

US pennies were all manufactured at one plant in Tennessee which will presumably be shut down, costing town 200 jobs. Tennessee voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Never thought the face eating leopard party would eat their faces.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[barfo]

Forgot this one: Ending daylight savings time (or ending standard time, either way works fine for me).

Unfortunately the news this week is that Trump has decided that this one is too complex for him to tackle after all.

So he's now 0-5 on my list of his proposals that I like. Not a surprise.

barfo

 

[MickZagger]

The Greenland one is pretty decent

 

[Chris Craig]

There have been more plane crashes