Trump says he may pay legal fees of supporter who sucker-punched protester at rally

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theprunetang said:
You will get no argument from me. I still can't believe this is a thing. If they made Trump's campaign into a movie and showed it 10 years ago we would all say, "that would never happen". But, it is. This is the bad kind of bizarre.
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It reminds me of the made for TV movie "the Wave"
 
At Wednesday’s rally in Fayetteville, N.C., John McGraw, 78, was caught on video punching the protester, 26-year-old Rakeem Jones, as Jones was being led out of the event by security.

After the rally, “Inside Edition” interviewed McGraw, who freely admitted assaulting Jones.

“He deserved it,” McGraw said. “The next time we see him, we might have to kill him.”
 
julius said:
It reminds me of the made for TV movie "the Wave"
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I'll have to look it up. It's it about bank robbing surfers? Wait, that was Point Break. ... I'll have to look it up.
 
I agree with Trump who is on record saying that he does not condone violence. But then I did not agree with the same at occupy, BLM or all the hands up dont shoot rallies, but they were justified by the left.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
I agree with Trump who is on record saying that he does not condone violence. But then I did not agree with the same at occupy, BLM or all the hands up dont shoot rallies, but they were justified by the left.
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Trump is also on record condoning the violence so who gives a shit if he says he doesn't condone it? :dunno:

Without making a comment we already know which side you fall on. The side of the people that are being violent and sucker punching people who are exercising their right to free speech. There's absolutely no way that anyone can justify that old man sucker punching the guy leaving, but Donald Trump will pay his legal fees and people in here will find ways to justify it.

If it were a white guy who got sucker-punched.....
 
dviss1 said:
Trump is also on record condoning the violence so who gives a shit if he says he doesn't condone it? :dunno:

Without making a comment we already know which side you fall on. The side of the people that are being violent and sucker punching people who are exercising their right to free speech. There's absolutely no way that anyone can justify that old man sucker punching the guy leaving, but Donald Trump will pay his legal fees and people in here will find ways to justify it.

If it were a white guy who got sucker-punched.....
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I can't condone the old guy punching the guy at all. I can condone Trump paying his legal fees because he is partly to blame for what happened. You can say he is .1 percent on 100 percent, doesn't matter.

Besides, the legal fees are like a donation to a lawyer charity. Johnnie Cochran couldn't get this guy off.

If the old fucker did say something about having to kill the guy next time we should probably take him in for a mental evaluation at the least.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I can't condone the old guy punching the guy at all. I can condone Trump paying his legal fees because he is partly to blame for what happened. You can say he is .1 percent on 100 percent, doesn't matter.

Besides, the legal fees are like a donation to a lawyer charity. Johnnie Cochran couldn't get this guy off.

If the old fucker did say something about having to kill the guy next time we should probably take him in for a mental evaluation at the least.
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While Trump was inciting violence from the podium, he's not responsible for the actions of the old man. That old man made a decision and it was his decision alone. Trump is a bitch for paying his legal fees and inciting the violence but he's not at fault. The crazy racists he incites are.
 
dviss1 said:
The crazy racists he incites are
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dviss! You know those dudes didn't belong at that rally! You think I show up at a Clinton rally? A Sanders Rally? You know I would get the bums rush. Don't you know?
 
MarAzul said:
dviss! You know those dudes didn't belong at that rally! You think I show up at a Clinton rally? A Sanders Rally? You know I would get the bums rush. Don't you know?
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Do you support the Constitution?

They have a constitutional right to be there.

Do you condone the violence MarAzul?

It sounds to me like you do...
 
MarAzul said:
dviss! You know those dudes didn't belong at that rally! You think I show up at a Clinton rally? A Sanders Rally? You know I would get the bums rush. Don't you know?
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You're not making sense MarAzul. Now I don't condone Sanders giving up his microphone at all. But we saw what happened when BLM went to the Bernie Sanders rally. Sure there was shouting an absolute disrespect for the wrong candidate, but there was no violence.
 
dviss1 said:
Do you support the Constitution?

>> Of course

They have a constitutional right to be there.

>> No actually you do not have a right to come to my meeting. I may let you if you behave yourself.

Do you condone the violence MarAzul?

>> Of course, no way I let someone break up my meeting if it is very important. I have chosen not to use violence in such a case when I deemed it not so important.

It sounds to me like you do...

>> Good read.
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MarAzul said:
dviss! You know those dudes didn't belong at that rally! You think I show up at a Clinton rally? A Sanders Rally? You know I would get the bums rush. Don't you know?
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No you wouldn't... We might argue with you that we're not going to fight you unless you try to be violent with us. If anybody thinks that BLM started the violence I question their thought process.
 

You can't have it both ways... look how you right Wingers condone violence but when it's done against you...
 
dviss1 said:
Trump is also on record condoning the violence so who gives a shit if he says he doesn't condone it? :dunno:

Without making a comment we already know which side you fall on. The side of the people that are being violent and sucker punching people who are exercising their right to free speech. There's absolutely no way that anyone can justify that old man sucker punching the guy leaving, but Donald Trump will pay his legal fees and people in here will find ways to justify it.

If it were a white guy who got sucker-punched.....
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dude..all I did was point out the obvious. You go right to personal insults. I have never treated you with anything but respect, I suppose by not being in agreement with you is grounds enough to bring race into the issue? You know, man to man, sometimes you reek butt hurt. Not saying this to provoke, rather offer up an observation that you may not be aware of.
 
dviss1 said:
we're not going to fight you
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No need. I have already stated several times, I would not go to someone else's meeting. I would consider that uncivilized. So forget about the fight.
Just being at the wrong meeting is inciting violence.
 
MarAzul said:
No need. I have already stated several times, I would not go to someone else's meeting. I would consider that uncivilized. So forget about the fight.
Just being at the wrong meeting is inciting violence.
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good grief, I would love to see you at some lib sheep feast.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
dude..all I did was point out the obvious. You go right to personal insults. I have never treated you with anything but respect, I suppose by not being in agreement with you is grounds enough to bring race into the issue? You know, man to man, sometimes you reek butt hurt. Not saying this to provoke, rather offer up an observation that you may not be aware of.
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Thou gotta be fucking kidding me... Seriously... I'm not going to go back and look through your posts in reference to things that I've posted, but respectfully is not the adjective I would use to describe the way you've treated me. GTFO...

Personal insults? If you consider me calling you predictable without using that word as a personal insult in your book, I think you need thicker skin.
 
dviss1 said:
Thou gotta be fucking kidding me... Seriously... I'm not going to go back and look through your posts in reference to things that I've posted, but respectfully is not the adjective I would use to describe the way you've treated me. GTFO...

Personal insults? If you consider me calling you predictable without using that word as a personal insult in your book, I think you need thicker skin.
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I have taken a little time to respond to this. Kind of cracks me up. First, I have total respect for those that express their own opinions rather than recycle mindless drivel. You have not been afraid to offer up yours. Second, you and I would most likely get along IRL, I see us both as no BS types that say what we think. Third, I really think you are above dragging race into a difference of opinion.

Peace be with you.
 
dviss1 said:
While Trump was inciting violence from the podium, he's not responsible for the actions of the old man. That old man made a decision and it was his decision alone. Trump is a bitch for paying his legal fees and inciting the violence but he's not at fault. The crazy racists he incites are.
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I wouldn't expect Trump to pay for them, I just don't care. Lawyers are worse than just about anything on Earth. Where they get their money from doesn't bother me.

For clarification I realize there are good lawyers like there are good cops. But, if cops were as crooked by the percentages you would be dead and I wouldn't leave my house.

I'd vote to keep Obama for life if it means Clinton doesn't win so Trump better tighten this shit up quick. Or just quit, whatever. ....
 
dviss1 said:
Trump is also on record condoning the violence so who gives a shit if he says he doesn't condone it? :dunno:

Without making a comment we already know which side you fall on. The side of the people that are being violent and sucker punching people who are exercising their right to free speech. There's absolutely no way that anyone can justify that old man sucker punching the guy leaving, but Donald Trump will pay his legal fees and people in here will find ways to justify it.

If it were a white guy who got sucker-punched.....
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At first sight I was as stunned as anyone, why would a 78 year old man sitting in an arena at a support rally for Trump get out of his seat and hit another man? Why did the police watch and do nothing to apprehend him?

It was clearly an assault, a violent crime that left a bruise but could have ended in death or even a stadium riot. That is the danger of allowing these gangs of thugs to continually crash political events with the sole purpose of destroying the political process. Attorney General Lynch has a problem with prosecuting hate groups when they share her ethnicity, and her continued reluctance will result in another Ferguson or perhaps an assassination. Or perhaps that IS the plan.

But now after viewing the video several dozen times I see why he was hit and why the cops did nothing. The guy is an asshole, and you really can't call that a sucker punch at all. There's no way he didn't expect it. And even the cops were tired of his potty-mouth.

To paraphrase Charles Darwin, chanting "F*CKING RACISTS!" and grinning and flipping both birds at people THEN TURNING YOUR BACK TO THEM and not expecting maybe 1 in that crowd of 25000 people might have had a few beers and might take a swing at you only proves you're too dumb to live.
 
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