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Sometimes when the choices are poor you should still make a choice. Walking away from the country isn't an option (well, unless you are close to the border).

Honkicracker: noted that you personally voted. Good for you. If all the other young people voted, it would actually make a big difference.

Can't win the game if you don't step up to the plate.

barfo

Yes if all the other young people voted it would.
However you wouldn't have liked their choice. The bold shows that exactly.
Which is the problem in a nutshell. You and others(on both sides) are only okay with young people voting if they vote for your candidate. Otherwise they're misguided youngsters who don't know anything and should go back to school.
 
People of your generation, generally weren't allowed to challenge their parents way of thinking openly.
wow....now this is bs....more young people of my generation challenged their parents than probably ever in history....I was born in the 50s and in the 60s and 70s young people protested the status quo....intermarried...marched against the war...marched for civil rights...etc....my father and I didn't speak for years after I got back from the war due mainly to political and social disagreements...we mended fences but I'm not sure what bubble you were raised under....if I followed my father's path I'd have been a Nixon loving midwestern farmer married to my irish hs sweetheart …..didn't happen. My generation questioned everything my father's generation believed in....nothing wrong with following your parents footsteps but not a lot of people in my generation did that....you're grabbing at straws here dude
 
I'm sorry, but this is complete bs.
People of your generation, generally weren't allowed to challenge their parents way of thinking openly.
Where as people of my generation were encouraged to do so.
Which is the point I was making.

Perhaps you were allowed to do that, but that would be a special case.
As I know must get to know more than my fair share of 50-70 year olds due to my line of work. Generally speaking that was not allowed.


...the 1960's called and said "hello".
 
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Yes if all the other young people voted it would.
However you wouldn't have liked their choice. The bold shows that exactly.

I guarantee you I would have preferred their choice to Trump.

Which is the problem in a nutshell. You and others(on both sides) are only okay with young people voting if they vote for your candidate. Otherwise they're misguided youngsters who don't know anything and should go back to school.

That is not what I am saying at all. I'm saying young people should get involved and vote. Take some responsibility. Live with the consequences of YOUR decisions, not the consequences of someone else's decisions.

barfo
 
Yes if all the other young people voted it would.
However you wouldn't have liked their choice. The bold shows that exactly.
Which is the problem in a nutshell. You and others(on both sides) are only okay with young people voting if they vote for your candidate. Otherwise they're misguided youngsters who don't know anything and should go back to school.
your assumptions here seem self serving.....I've encouraged students to vote all my life and never thought about who they'd vote for...as a retired teacher I think you're playing the partisan card for you own purposes.....my oldest son is a die hard republican....youngest is an independent ….they make their own choices
 
I believe only 17 % of people under the age of 30 voted last election.....in my view it's reflective of the poor choices they were stuck with....I voted for Johnson but many candidates on the ballot never got any air time....want to change the landscape of campaigns...need to allow all candidates equal time in the debates and in TV coverage.....it's always just a dem republican shit show....young people probably don't know there are other parties to vote for...if ever there were an election reeking of apathy...it's the last one. Young people haven't really shown up at the polls since McGovern ran for office. Has nothing to do with parenting though...my children voted...it has more to do with entertainment obsession...there are video games to be played...reading and filling out a ballot are too much like homework for many lazy young folks. We need to take money out of the campaign process....a hard cap...equal money for all candidates elected by their parties...how many people even know who ran on the Libertarian party platform or Constitutional Party platform or even the Green Party platform...right...nobody...hence we get stuck with the spoiled gazillionaire choices that have big biz in their back pockets
Isn't Gary Johnson the guy that could only name one world leader and he had trouble doing that?
 
Isn't Gary Johnson the guy that could only name one world leader and he had trouble doing that?
he stumbled in that interview badly...looked exhausted...he bicycled to every interview and actually bicycled from Alaska to New Mexico....cancer survivor...used medical marijuana as part of his recovery...didn't matter to me...I would have voted for anybody over the major 2 candidates...at least Johnson was honest.....Trump didn't know geography at all....or world politics....if you wanted knowledge of world leaders...Hillary was the master of that. Johnson was my "fuck you dems and republicans" vote...I could have easily wrote in Daffy Duck
 
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There can only be one world leader, and thanks to President Trump it is America once again. :cheers:

You misspelled Putin

barfo
 

Amigo - are you paying attention to what has happened this week? On the day Trump said, "Russia, if you are listening, find her 30,000 missing emails" Russian operatives launched a full scale cyber attack on Hillary's servers. Read the latest indictment. Mere coincidence? Or teamwork? And that is just a low hanging fruit example.

Sorry, no one is making this stuff up, sadly.

The indictments against the Americans are coming. And, weirdly, so is Putin. Go figure.
 
So, is @MARIS61 actually @Denny Crane? Because if you click the link in Maris' post above, it doesn't lead to an article that says no Americans colluded, it pops up with a link to Denny's profile.

I sincerely don't get it.
 
Btw, the indictment says,

"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity." (emphasis added.)

You have to read it like a lawyer, as it's a legal document. That indictment alleges no collusion, which makes sense as it is about what 12 Russians did. But nowhere does anyone say there was (or was not collusion), because, as a matter of course, that has not been legally determined yet.

I am not picking nits. This is how a lawyer would read that statement.
 
wow....now this is bs....more young people of my generation challenged their parents than probably ever in history....I was born in the 50s and in the 60s and 70s young people protested the status quo....intermarried...marched against the war...marched for civil rights...etc....my father and I didn't speak for years after I got back from the war due mainly to political and social disagreements...we mended fences but I'm not sure what bubble you were raised under....if I followed my father's path I'd have been a Nixon loving midwestern farmer married to my irish hs sweetheart …..didn't happen. My generation questioned everything my father's generation believed in....nothing wrong with following your parents footsteps but not a lot of people in my generation did that....you're grabbing at straws here dude

Just wanted to add a thought to your post. The right to vote was reduced from a minimum age of twenty one to the age of eighteen in 1971. This was a direct result of our generation.

Most of the social changes, good and bad, that the youth today take for granted, were a direct result of 60s and 70s youth rebelling against the norm.
 
Just wanted to add a thought to your post. The right to vote was reduced from a minimum age of twenty one to the age of eighteen in 1971. This was a direct result of our generation.

Most of the social changes, good and bad, that the youth today take for granted, were a direct result of 60s and 70s youth rebelling against the norm.
You all should be ashamed! (Of the bad)
 
Denny/Maris - whoever you are: Good point. I did say the indictment spells out collusion and you are right, it doesn't. But note: people can make mistakes and it need not be a lie, or nefarious. I blew it, that's all. My bad.

Carry on!
 
Amigo - are you paying attention to what has happened this week? On the day Trump said, "Russia, if you are listening, find her 30,000 missing emails" Russian operatives launched a full scale cyber attack on Hillary's servers. Read the latest indictment. Mere coincidence? Or teamwork? And that is just a low hanging fruit example.

Sorry, no one is making this stuff up, sadly.

The indictments against the Americans are coming. And, weirdly, so is Putin. Go figure.


...my guess is that Manafort and Trump's Son and his Son in Law will be among the first indicted.
 
Somebody should clue Maris in to the fact that huge red fonts don't make him right...they just make him loud
 
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