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Telling Ivy League students to consider working for their community, city, state, or country is a message they need to hear.
But it really didn't address the question to which he was responding. The kid asked, "Why would we (rich ivy educated types) want to overturn a system that clearly benefits us?" Bernie's utopian vision doesn't answer his "why"--at all.
 
But it really didn't address the question to which he was responding. The kid asked, "Why would we (rich ivy educated types) want to overturn a system that clearly benefits us?" Bernie's utopian vision doesn't answer his "why"--at all.

I'm not sure eliminating childhood hunger, providing more doctors and nurses in rural areas, and improving public education are some utopian visions.
 
Sorry you don’t value an education. I’m glad my son graduated with honors and is a homeowner at 32. He’s at work now as he’s too busy to argue politics on a basketball forum but good luck with your homeschooling project and I hope you too can provide your neighbors kids with computer literacy programs and free computers. School is what you make of it. Hope you find success.
Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back.
 
Bill Gates has little if anything to do with the shitty state of the current US education system. Today's educational clusterfuck is a direct result of decades of nihilist big business/capitalists using cynical, self serving politicians to deliberately undermine our educational systems. Ignorant and/or uneducated citizens are much easier to manipulate, control and steal from. All you have to do is look at the MAGA base to see irrefutable proof. Or just where America is at in general today. Marjorie Taylor Green actually has a four year college degree. She is proof positive that our education system is an abject failure. And Bill Gates had nothing whatsoever to do with her ignorance and (extremely self evident) illiteracy.

You don't like it when Trump is blamed for all that is bad. Yet you have no problem heaping blame on Gates, or Biden or whoever else pisses you off. Funny how that works......
Just more ramblings to satiate your TDS. All roads meander back to MAGA somehow.
 
I'm not sure eliminating childhood hunger, providing more doctors and nurses in rural areas, and improving public education are some utopian visions.
They are when you do nothing but talk about them while actively siding with the people ensuring it will never happen.
 
Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Don't bash the arm that feeds your kids free literacy and social services. I don't have to pat myself on the back...raising a healthy family that is thanks enough. You can make something of yourself and build a life for your family or complain about people who did it not only for themselves but also for the greater good. Choices. I wouldn't sit around waiting for a politician to fix the world for me though. Life is short enough as it is.
 
"I can't remember what all Frank had fighting in the jar that day, but I can remember other bug fights we staged later on: one stag beetle against a hundred red ants, one centipede against three spiders, red ants against black ants. They won't fight unless you keep shaking the jar. And that's what Frank was doing, shaking, shaking the jar."

Kurt Vonnegut's 1963 novel "Cat's Cradle."
 
I'll put money on it that I've done more than you.
I was talking about Bernie Sanders. Wasn’t really trying to turn it into the extremely personal competition you and riverman are imagining.
 
Just more ramblings to satiate your TDS. All roads meander back to MAGA somehow.
In today’s political climate all roads DO meander back to MAGA. And that fact that you are so blithely fine with it just proves my point about the American educational system. I guess the obvious is too painful for you to reconcile yourself to it, so you have no choice but to deflect. MAGA good! Biden old and senile. Say it long and hard enough and it’s still won’t come true. But you can always dream. Keep on keeping on.
 
In today’s political climate all roads DO meander back to MAGA. And that fact that you are so blithely fine with it just proves my point about the American educational system. I guess the obvious is too painful for you to reconcile yourself to it, so you have no choice but to deflect. MAGA good! Biden old and senile. Say it long and hard enough and it’s still won’t come true. But you can always dream. Keep on keeping on.

War good. Dead kids good. War make peace. Orange scary. Boomer smart.
 
I was talking about Bernie Sanders. Wasn’t really trying to turn it into the extremely personal competition you and riverman are imagining.
You said "you" and were replying to me. And it's not a competition, you can search for Stamp Out Hunger in this forum and see the years I've spent collecting food for our local food banks. 12 years at an average of 24,000 to 30,000 lbs of food a year. Seriously, I'd love it if you collected more than that. I'd happily pay off on any bet if you did.
 
You said "you" and were replying to me. And it's not a competition, you can search for Stamp Out Hunger in this forum and see the years I've spent collecting food for our local food banks. 12 years at an average of 24,000 to 30,000 lbs of food a year. Seriously, I'd love it if you collected more than that. I'd happily pay off on any bet if you did.

Yeah, wasn’t talking about you. Any more accomplishments you need air out though while were on the subject? We were all literally referencing a video of Bernie Sanders. Good grief.
 
Like Bernie Sanders? Or Bill Gates?
The wealthy in general. It doesn't mean all wealthy are bad, but that is where the driving force comes from.

You see, just because a person fits a criteria in one aspect of life doesn't mean you can automatically classify them in all aspects of life. Even though that seems to be a popular thing to do recently...

So you don't attack individuals for these policies, you support policies that promote a healthier balance. Namely by voting.
 
You seem to be unaware of Jeffrey Epstein. She wasn’t though. I think that’s why Billy boy is no longer married.

He is no longer married because he had an affair with his secretary.
 
You seem to be unaware of Jeffrey Epstein. She wasn’t though. I think that’s why Billy boy is no longer married.
Meet Bill Gates secretary and her name isn't Jeffrey Epstein! His eex wife Melinda has run the charity for a long time..probably.still does
 
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Meet Bill Gates secretary and her name isn't Jeffrey Epstein! Melinda has run the charity for a long time..probably.still does
Whoa! Melinda is a lot more than a secretary. She has degrees in computer science and business. She was a marketing manager Microsoft but left when she married to avoid difficulties. She has been running foundation. And pursuing her own interests.
 
Whoa! Melinda is a lot more than a secretary. She has degrees in computer science and business. She was a marketing manager Microsoft but left when she married to avoid difficulties. She has been running foundation. And pursuing her own interests.
I wasn’t referring to Melinda as his secretary. I said he must be aware of her because she managed the foundation but that instead of Epstein, Bill was sleeping with his secretary which led to his divorce from Melinda. people think theGates foundation is all about Bill and forget about Melinda
( I edited the previous post to clarify and not confuse anyone)
 
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