Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!) (4 Viewers)

[riverman]

S2 is a website.

 

[julius]

I have the right to say they're facts....if you're not willing to prove otherwise.

You can say they're facts, but that doesn't *make* them facts.

If we were in a court of law, the burden would be on you.

Actually, since you're the one who made the claim, it's up to you.

 

[ABM]

You can say they're facts, but that doesn't *make* them facts.



Actually, since you're the one who made the claim, it's up to you.

If I were President Clinton and claimed, "It's a fact. I did not have sexual relations with that woman", you've have to go with it. That is, until you found the blue dress.

 

[ABM]

If I were President Clinton and claimed, "It's a fact. I did not have sexual relations with that woman", you've have to go with it. That is, until you found the blue dress.

Is O.J. Simpson guilty of murder? No. Did he do it? Hmmm...

 

[julius]

If I were President Clinton and claimed, "It's a fact. I did not have sexual relations with that woman", you've have to go with it. That is, until you found the blue dress.

That really doesn't make your point any stronger you know.

 

[ABM]

That really doesn't make your point any stronger you know.

I'll call it fact and you can disagree all you'd like. These things happen every day in life. Have fun with it.

/discussion

 

[julius]

I'll call it fact and you can disagree all you'd like. These things happen every day in life. Have fun with it.

/discussion

So you say it's a fact, and then point out something that was said that had the word "fact" in it, that was in fact, not a fact...and you think that's a strong point?

Really?

 

[Chris Craig]

I count it as fact. You don't. Call it whatever you'd like.

Just because you count it as a fact, doesn't mean it's a fact. Facts are proven and are universal. They are absolutes.

Opinions on the other hand are like lips and assholes, everyone has them, and they are all different.

 

[ABM]

So you say it's a fact, and then point out something that was said that had the word "fact" in it, that was in fact, not a fact...and you think that's a strong point?

Really?

I said it was fact that he's done nothing in Washington in 47 years. You could be correct, though. Rumor has it he emptied Obama's waste basket once or twice while serving a VP.

 

[ABM]

Just because you count it as a fact, doesn't mean it's a fact. Facts are proven and are universal. They are absolutes.

It's kinda funny you should say that because Biden many times says, "Fact of that matter is......" when he's talking out his butt.

 

[Chris Craig]

I have the right to say they're facts....if you're not willing to prove otherwise.

If we were in a court of law, the burden would be on you.

This isn't a court of law.

 

[julius]

I said it was fact that he's done nothing in Washington in 47 years. You could be correct, though. Rumor has it he emptied Obama's waste basket once or twice while serving a VP.

I have to give you credit for sticking with the bit.

 

[riverman]

alternative facts.....the culture of denial just like fake news....this defense is worse than the Blazers defense against the Lakers

 

[julius]

alternative facts.....the culture of denial just like fake news....this defense is worse than the Blazers defense against the Lakers

Woah woah woah, nothing is worse than the Blazers defense against the Lakers.

 

[Chris Craig]

It's kinda funny you should say that because Biden many times says, "Fact of that matter is......" when he's talking out his butt.

So what? Most politicians talk out of their asses. Its a phrase, doesn't mean everything he said was a fact. At least he doesn't lie every other syllable like Trump

 

[ABM]

At least he doesn't lie every other syllable like Trump

Is that fact, or opinion?

 

[julius]

Is that fact, or opinion?

Well, it's hyperbole, but based in demonstrable reality.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=donald-trump&ruling=false

 

[ABM]

Well, it's hyperbole, but based in demonstrable reality.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=donald-trump&ruling=false

Hyperbole, nonetheless.

 

[ABM]

Hyperbole, nonetheless.

PS: Everyone is accountable...

 

[julius]

Hyperbole, nonetheless.

Demonstrable, nonetheless.

 

[Minstrel]

If we were in a court of law, the burden would be on you.

If I were President Clinton and claimed, "It's a fact. I did not have sexual relations with that woman", you've have to go with it. That is, until you found the blue dress.

Fine. Fact: God doesn't exist and people who think there's a spiritual being commanding them to enforce their wills on women's bodies have emotional problems.

Now, prove it's not a fact or else go with it.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

If I were President Clinton and claimed, "It's a fact. I did not have sexual relations with that woman", you've have to go with it. That is, until you found the blue dress.

Actually, if you go back and look, he started out by saying that he “wanted say one thing to the American people........”. Throughout his life, Bill Clinton was disingenuous AF. Of course he “wanted” to tell the American people he never had sex with Lewinski. He couldn't do that obviously, but he wanted to. So in Clinton’s mind, in regard to his statement, he was telling the truth. And to a small degree, he was. Trump doesn’t even make an effort to a kernel of truth in his horseshit.

 

[julius]

Actually, if you go back and look, he started out by saying that he “wanted say one thing to the American people........”. Throughout his life, Bill Clinton was disingenuous AF. Of course he “wanted” to tell the American people he never had sex with Lewinski. He couldn't do that obviously, but he wanted to. So in Clinton’s mind, in regard to his statement, he was telling the truth. And to a small degree, he was. Trump doesn’t even make an effort to a kernel of truth in his horseshit.

Man, wouldn't it be nice if that was our biggest issue we're dealing with right now?

Instead of all the dunderheaded responses to things and scandals that Trump or his administration is directly involved in?

 

[ABM]

Fine. Fact: God doesn't exist and people who think there's a spiritual being commanding them to enforce their wills on women's bodies have emotional problems.

Now, prove it's not a fact or else go with it.

I'm not the one proving anything here. I'll go with it.

 

[ABM]

You guys are fun, I'll tell ya that.

 

[ABM]

PS: Everyone is accountable...

Kinda funny. I put something out there...and julius says, "Not so fast!", along with one of those fact-checker links. I, then, post a rebuttal to said fact-checker site. The deal is, we could attempt to verify each other's "facts" until the cows come home. But, truly, who has final say in these types matters? I'll tell you who. The American voter. All I can say is.....git ready.

 

[crandc]

Been reading Shakespeare plays, my Corona virus project is to read them all. The RNC convention reminded me of Lord Buckingham praising Richard III. The whole point being that Richard was the exact opposite of everything Buckingham said.

For four days not only was Trump the outsider who would come fix things, he was compassionate, capable, hard working with deep love of family and faith in God to guide him.

Or as Buckingham said of Richard:
"Your form and nobleness of mind
Your discipline in war, wisdom in peace
Your bounty, virtue, fair humility"

About one of the most dishonest, vile, conniving, loathsome characters in English literature.

 

[lawai'a]

Fine. Fact: God doesn't exist and people who think there's a spiritual being commanding them to enforce their wills on women's bodies have emotional problems.

Now, prove it's not a fact or else go with it.

Since, fundamentally, objective reality cannot be proven, the subjective reality in which a superior being exists, does.

 

[julius]

Kinda funny. I put something out there...and julius says, "Not so fast!", along with one of those fact-checker links. I, then, post a rebuttal to said fact-checker site. The deal is, we could attempt to verify each other's "facts" until the cows come home. But, truly, who has final say in these types matters? I'll tell you who. The American voter. All I can say is.....git ready.

A: there are many other fact checkers that are out there that indicate Trump manipulates words into a fashion that makes it sounds like he's saying something when in reality he's saying something different and therefore, incorrect. If you honestly feel as though he is even remotely an honest person, that's because you are either playing a character on here ore are incapable of admitting you were wrong about someone and just want to be steadfast.

B: more people voted for her, and she ran a horrible campaign, the economy was strong, there was a division among the D's (bernie bros, etc) and there is a huge pandemic going around that no matter how much he wants to spin in (or you want to believe it) is actually *not* Joe Bidens fault. He has been President since 2017, and this is his fuck up.

 

[crandc]

The existence or nonexistence of any god is by definition unprovable. Whether men who want to force themselves on women have emotional problems or not is debatable; one could argue that every person has some emotional problem.

That men have absolutely no right to force their will on women's bodies is fact. That they do so anyway is revolting.

And that's a fact.